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Posted: 6 years ago

Joker. (2019)

I can't sleep.. was a powerful experience watching it.. unable to bring myself out of the feeling this movie has given me..

So much to say about it, but IDK where to begin or what to say.

Joaquin's performance wasn't a performance.. he lived it..

I may be feeling this intensely about the film because I love such characters like Arthur..

When I movie ended and it was time to get up and walk out I felt like maybe I was going to burst into tears, and walking out among people I felt really weird.. even hearing people laugh during the film felt strange, the film created something surreal... to be seated among so many watching this film. Was an emotional experience too, some moments in the movie had me dewy-eyed.. IDK if it's just my experience but I felt some sort of catharsis..I think I am going crazy lol..

One of the most powerful acting performances ever. There's plenty of scenes that just had me staring at the screen in awe and disbelief looking at Joaquin's face and his *being* ....I want to experience that again.. One scene that stood out the most, was a scene from somewhere in the beginning of the movie, where he just smiles almost looking our way.. for a while, and there's complete silence. Thank God for the director who shot that scene... there's many scene where you feel the intensity of Joaquin's gaze.. how does this happen.. I want to relive those moments. And, what a performance.. every second of it, it's not a 'performance.' Some scenes where he just silently watches unable to respond to the insensitivity of people... what can I say.

So, what's this movie about.. IDK if I can explain it now.. it's about a lot of things, but basically it's how how there's no sign of heart anywhere.. Joker is a depressed man, who wants nothing more than just people to have basic courtesy, an acknowledgement of his simple right to a dignified treatment, for people to listen to each other.. simplest things and instead is constantly rewarded with discrimination, animosity, bullying, rejection.. there's rejection everywhere.

There's a scene where he comes back home, and he tries to dance with his mother.. he tells her a couple of times to just dance with him, but her mind/heart is elsewhere, she's not in the here and now, and she talks about a letter he has to post, rather than spending a couple of seconds just with him, heart to heart ..just a simple dance..

That's such a beautiful profound scene, that we all face in day to day lives.. maybe very simple, but makes a lot of difference.

These are the kind of little things that Joker wanted, but never gets.. simplest of human interaction where they just say simple things with heart to each other. Instead, he sees a world that's full of commotion...

And, he's not mentally fit, he has some problems and is dependent on multiple medications for his mental health... where does world have place for them? Such people are rejected and isolated farther more.. who is saner one? Joker does asks something along the lines of how are people brought in here (the mental asylum).. really how? what is sanity?

Joker laughs at what is not funny while watching comedy scenes.. and honestly, if you listen and watch the stand-up comedy, there's nothing to laugh about even though a lot people burst into laughter, and he ironically laughs when nobody's laughing.

Almost everything about this film is ironical, painfully ironical.. it's thought-provoking, provoked my own emotions lol.. I loved this movie.. I felt so many things, have a lot to say about this film.. but IDK how.. I want to watch it again. Is it just Phoenix's performance or is the film also so good.. IDK, but it made a huge impact on me.

Cinematography is good.. the color yellow is a dominant aesthetic in the film, Joker is seen wearing a yellow jacket and there's always some yellow background or lighting. Yellow color stands for poverty, poor health, mental disturbance, psychosis of some sort.. and there's always something yellow near Joker. And, in most scenes, some little thing in red, which perhaps represents the blood he's going to shed... until he actually starts doing it, and dons a red suit..

I have some questions... I wonder why he becomes so violent, although I understand it, still... I'd have loved it if he kept smiling.


Oh and the ending scene where he takes blood from his injured mouth and wipes it over his make-up.. woah, his blood has finally come out to blend in with his mask, he has become the mask and is no more hiding under it..

So many such metaphorical scenes.. like, there's a scene that I think encapsulates one of the major theme of this film - that all people are hiding beneath masks and all people are equally dark.. and that scene is where Joker wearing a clown mask over his make-up is chased by cops into a subway covered in graffiti art, and most of the commuters are seen wearing clown masks. I loved that scene.

Loved the film, I still have so much so say but it'll just be lengthening my already confused messy rambling... I guess theater does make us respond too dramatically to films :p ..anyway, I loved the experience of watching it.. it may not even be half as good as my post may make it seem.. but if anything, Joaquin Phoenix's performance is going to touch you deeply.

Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Joker : ( New, English, 2019 )


1989 Joker: Throw him into toxic chemicals to create the Joker

2019 Joker: Throw him into society to create the Joker

.................and the difference between toxic chemicals and the society is...?

Related to the film, saw a tweet on DC's handle where a desi murga tweeted that society turning this fellow into villain is cliche and not the story he'd wanna watch for Joker. Later some 20 odd tweets trolled him for his definition of good films, some being Ram-Leela and Zero XD

RK ( - da greatest show-man of Bolly ) had once said,.... " Kal Khel mein, Hum Ho naa Ho,... Gardish mein Taare, rahenge Sada ! "


Comparisons to taxi driver, king of comedy and one flew over cuckoo nest?

I watched the two leaked scenes (2 mins each)...and was shocked and speechless. my jaw dropped - literally!! The scenes were brutally violent....raw, chilling!! I know DC doesn't flinch to go dark, but Joaquer is disturbing!!

Never in a million years I would have expected that from the guy who directed Hangover movies!


Word is that, it doesn't look like a comic book movie...but like a character drama/tragedy.

Director Todd Phillips described the movie as a "tragedy" and decried much of the initial reporting on "The Joker" project.

“But that’s what happens when you set out to make an origin story about a character who doesn’t have an origin,” he said, according to the Associated Press.

Completely bamboozled!

If this doesn't turn out to be epic then one would wonder what "epic" means. Am assuming Todd Phillips might have utilised Elseworld tag to its full capacity and drawn parallel and perpendicular with Alan Moore's by utilising Joker and scripting something that cannot be imagined or judged by audience unless they book seats for big screen. Tragedy is what we'd wanna see but mustn't miss Joker intimidating, or rather "calm before storm" smile.


Hype doesn't express emotions well for this one, one look of Phoenix and anybody should be infatuated to this film.

BTW raise your hands if you've watched it more than once

I would have watched it atleast 10 times. Love how JP gradually slips into madness and changes from arthur fleck to joker. From trudging and beaten down in the beginning to his strutting and dancing as joker at the end. Even his laugh changes from the start to end. wow!

this one scene is an example of the brilliance of this movie (trailer) from acting to cinematography. - "put on a happy face!"

He even tries to put a smile on the little batman (master Bruce)!

Apart from JP, Todd Phillips and the cinematographer steal the show as well. Coming out in October, IF the movie turns out as good as this trailer is, it will be sure in the race for Oscars.

(Todd Phillips)builds a dreamlike realism, letting us enter the nightmarish perceptions and deceptions of the Joker, turning views grimy street-level authenticity into an altered state of consciousness. It all seems very real, and at the same time surreal, like a muffled, drug-induced experience of hyper-reality.


Imagine Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy mashed together, starring the Joker from The Dark Knight who has a psychotic monster violently clawing its way out of him, and imagine watching it while under the influence of a cocktail of powerful sedatives and raw-nerve hallucinogens. That's Joker

Joaquin Phoenix gives a tour de force performance, fearless and stunning in its emotional depth and physicality. It's impossible to talk about this without referencing Heath Ledger's Oscar-winning performance from The Dark Knight, widely considered the definitive live-action portrayal of the Joker, so let's talk about it. The fact is, everyone is going to be stunned by what Phoenix accomplishes, because it's what many thought impossible — a portrayal that matches and potentially exceeds that of The Dark Knight's Clown Prince of Crime.

Some will consider me a heretic for saying such a thing, but it's simply the truth. Phoenix channels something otherworldly here, a man aware that a psychotic monster is violently clawing its way out of him and he struggles to contain it because he thinks that's what he has to do — until he decides he doesn't, because the monster within him is just him. And he likes it.

Twisting and contorting himself like a broken marionette — and sometimes like a crab or strange insect crawling from a cocoon — Phoenix lets the inner derangement manifest in every movement, every glance. There is malevolence seeping from his very pours. At first it is a bit harder to detect, because Phoenix so masterfully depicts the ways in which the Joker wrestles with himself to disguise his demented tendencies. But gradually, painfully, he allows us to see more and more of it. And as we witness it, we realize it's not a transformation but rather a revelation of what was always barely contained beneath the surface. And we recall earlier moments, and we realize the evil was there too, but it scared him the way it scares us, so he concealed it.


I don't even hesitate to say Phoenix is the instant frontrunner for Best Actor at the Academy Awards, and I have zero doubt he will be nominated for his performance. My expectation is that he will win, because it's the best performance I've seen from an actor all year, and it's hard to imagine another performance with such nuanced intensity and power. The Joker becomes a living, breathing human manifestation of evil, and the film serves to both demystify him and also make it clear that even what we "see" of his origin is subject to question — unreliable narrators being what they are, the Joker being the most unreliable of all narrators, and the fact of his literal humanness doing nothing to remove our awareness something purely cruel and monstrous resides within his soul.

US Twitter had a meltdown with that Golden Lion win at Venice. No matter the Golden Lion, it is a DARK DC movie. It is going to rub the American bloggers/movie reviewers the wrong way! Am not expecting a high RT score anyway. Already some reviews from TIFF are panning it, saying it is a well made, well acted movie, BUT the idea of the movie (a movie giving a character study of an iconic and evil villain, which happens to be mature, uncomfortable to watch and which asks questions) is bad for society. If Taxi Driver or The Dark Knight were released today, these juvenile reviewers will cry - "it's too dark. no fun. Don't watch, not worth your money!"


Well some may also say,....This is what happens when whiny American 8 year-olds are asked to watch mature movies and write reviews! Perhaps she just needs to stick with their favorite Disney/Marvel movies..

From the clips I have seen from Joker, the movie doesn't even romanticize violence nor does it ask you to root for the joker. The violence was grotesque and visceral, which made me uncomfortable and speechless. The acting was phenomenal. Yes, there is a chance that the movie could be disappointing, but I can't wait to see the whole film.

@SuperheroesRant

It's sad to see movies getting reviewed on the social commentary it showcases rather than from a film making point of view. Criticizing an artwork for showing you a side of society you don't wanna see & ignoring it's all other qualities is a lousy way of reviewing. #Joker

So? Folks,... ! Yess, you've guessed it right. I've not seen it yet,... But after this loads of hoopla and talk of town all aound,... accompanied by Angel's above posted butiful movie-review,.... I'm just starving,... crying n' dying to watch it, ASAP. ....it's in my next immediate list, if opportunity did arrive to watch it,........

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Reminds me, last ending like of RK's MNJ,..

Lekin jaayiyega nahin,... jaayiyega nahin,..... Joker ka Tamaasha abhi khatm nahin huaa,......

Yeh mera geet,... jeevan-sangeet,.... Kal bhi koi dohraayega !

Jag ko hansaane, bahu-roopiya,... Roop badal kar phir aayegaa !! And,.. Lo n' Have it,.. Here he is !

Jaana Kahaan ???? The END ? - Positively Not !................ n',.... da journey continues,.... !!

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A promise to keep,.................... dream 2 fulfill,.............. n'............... Miles 2 Go !

Thx 4 butiful Review 'Angel' ( a post above ) ,... it sure touched me,...

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Edited by Himalaya10 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Joker :

If u are expecting an MCU type of superhero movie then this isn’t for you . It is kind of a slow burner and super depressing. Joaquin deserves the Oscar

5/5

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Posted: 6 years ago

where is new movie review ?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Himalaya10

Joker : ( New, English, 2019 )


1989 Joker: Throw him into toxic chemicals to create the Joker

2019 Joker: Throw him into society to create the Joker

.................and the difference between toxic chemicals and the society is...?


Comparisons to taxi driver, king of comedy and one flew over cuckoo nest?

Hype doesn't express emotions well for this one, one look of Phoenix and anybody should be infatuated to this film.

BTW raise your hands if you've watched it more than once



(Todd Phillips)builds a dreamlike realism, letting us enter the nightmarish perceptions and deceptions of the Joker, turning views grimy street-level authenticity into an altered state of consciousness. It all seems very real, and at the same time surreal, like a muffled, drug-induced experience of hyper-reality.


Joaquin Phoenix gives a tour de force performance, fearless and stunning in its emotional depth and physicality. It's impossible to talk about this without referencing Heath Ledger's Oscar-winning performance from The Dark Knight, widely considered the definitive live-action portrayal of the Joker, so let's talk about it. The fact is, everyone is going to be stunned by what Phoenix accomplishes, because it's what many thought impossible — a portrayal that matches and potentially exceeds that of The Dark Knight's Clown Prince of Crime.

Some will consider me a heretic for saying such a thing, but it's simply the truth. Phoenix channels something otherworldly here, a man aware that a psychotic monster is violently clawing its way out of him and he struggles to contain it because he thinks that's what he has to do — until he decides he doesn't, because the monster within him is just him. And he likes it.

Twisting and contorting himself like a broken marionette — and sometimes like a crab or strange insect crawling from a cocoon — Phoenix lets the inner derangement manifest in every movement, every glance. There is malevolence seeping from his very pours. At first it is a bit harder to detect, because Phoenix so masterfully depicts the ways in which the Joker wrestles with himself to disguise his demented tendencies. But gradually, painfully, he allows us to see more and more of it. And as we witness it, we realize it's not a transformation but rather a revelation of what was always barely contained beneath the surface. And we recall earlier moments, and we realize the evil was there too, but it scared him the way it scares us, so he concealed it.


So? Folks,... ! Yess, you've guessed it right. I've not seen it yet,... But after this loads of hoopla and talk of town all aound,... accompanied by Angel's above posted butiful movie-review,.... I'm just starving,... crying n' dying to watch it, ASAP. ....it's in my next immediate list, if opportunity did arrive to watch it,........

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A promise to keep,.................... dream 2 fulfill,.............. n'............... Miles 2 Go !

Thx 4 butiful Review 'Angel' ( a post above ) ,... it sure touched me,...

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Firstly, thankyou Himalaya.. I really hope the movie doesn't let you down :p

I must say, on a hindsight, the film could've been L I T T L E better :) Like, for example, I also read this somewhere today that the plot sometimes kind of spoon feeds, when it doesn't have to.. especially when it's meant for adults, we can understand or rather, we like to be kept in the dark and like to wonder.. I want to watch it again lol.


@ toxic chemicals.... woaa , never knew this 👏


I haven't seen King of Comedy and One Who Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest... but the parallels drawn to Taxi Driver, I can't really see any other than a man vexed with the society he lives in.. and I always thought that Taxi Driver's vigilante stemmed from a state of ennui and loneliness (or depression).. But here Joker is working hard seeing failure after failure with humiliation always following him like a shadow, he wants to work as a clown, he wants people to smile, wants to be treated with dignity.. And, no to mention, he's on medical treatment for his mental health. There's a lot of difference between being depressed and having medical aid for mental health because the latter can mess up one's insides farther more than the former.. I guess what's similar is how they felt isolated from the society around and how they turn against it.. but I see a lot of difference in the reasons or the background rather the fuel that drove them to become what they become.. Maybe I'd rather see each movie individually :p Tell me what you think after you watch the movie :)

@green ...damn.. that's how I felt, I was wondering if my sanity is slippery lol, I felt that too.. IDK how I felt that in a movie that's rather simple compared to other mind-bending movies. But it surely draws your into something that's distasteful but very real in a subconscious way, and kind of throws you off.. to see people around me and feel, hear them while watching this movie felt strange. It created something surreal for the viewer.. And, some of the scenes where he's so hurt, so pained and can do nothing but just look on to life, swallowing the storm within him... "That's life" ... woaaaahhh.. I loved it..

Phoenix is definitely other-worldly... the look he gives, the look in his eyes, the emotions behind them.. I've seen performances matching upto his', but he pulls you into whatever he's doing and feeling and for a long time, many times.. I couldn't believe it when I saw some glances, cos they are reminiscent of something you might have felt sometime in life.. I'm going to watch The Master again today since I can't watch Joker again.

~~~ m i l d SPOILER AHEAD ~~~

I also loved how he calls himself a Joker, because he was so hurt, so humiliated by Robert DeNiro's mockery of him on TV where he playfully calls him a 'joker' like it's nothing.. but it hurt so much, that he takes up the name.... he becomes it..



@blue ...that's a beautiful analysis :)

Oh I am waiting for your review on this Himalaya! I hope you enjoy the film and that this hype will not let your expectations down! :)

Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

^ Thanks for your so touching and heartily felt-ful analysis of the Movie,... that you saw, sensed and experienced,.. I Like and prefer these kinda movies also a lot,... just like our,.... Sadma, Barfi, Koshish, Achanak, aavishkar, Forrest Gump, Sargam, Mere apne, Phool aur paththar, Uddan, .. where a different kind of pain is churned,...

It seems, I must prepare myself for the Mood of watching smthg like previous ones, - Tom Hank’s,a Retarded kid movie : Forrest Gump or so,.. !Movie is new and I hate theater going,…. So I will wait.

One Who Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest.. si the Classic film like our Bees saal baad or Sholey,….

In Film Yaraana ( BigB ), Amitabh had played smwhat copy-cat characters of a "faked mental man" in the second part, that was an inspiration from this movie, I guess.

Well,...... happy Cinema watching to all,...... I like good watching n' reading rather than much tour and travel,..... My Hobby, to offset the rest fragments of hard-working n' stress-ful life,.. :)

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Posted: 6 years ago

" Get out" and " Gone girl " are the recent movies which broke my expectation record by 3x,.. means I had only expected at the most , X times better,.. but they slapped me, proving themselves 3X. Whoa !

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movie review---Gone girl

Ben Affleck returns home to find out that his wife is gone one day....

He calls in the cops , who begin the investigation....

And the investigation leads to one way---Ben Affleck becomes the prime suspect in her disappearance....

His wife is a celebrity , and the TV channels extensively explore the story....

The common people and especially the women are baying for his blood....

Women presenters run programmes on TV trying to prove that Ben is a murderer , and even his relationship with his sister is tried to be labelled as incestous....

Ben can't move anywhere without being hounded by the cameras and press....

He becomes the number one hated man in America....

So he hires a top notch celebrity lawyer to defend himself....

But the problem for those trying vilify Ben , and indeed those trying to get him convicted is---where is the body ?? And police can't make a clear cut case until his wife's body is found....

So where is the body ??

And what is the meaning of 'Gone girl' ?? Does it mean that his wife is gone ??

Or does it mean that she is/was a 'Gone case' ??

Either way , the cup of Ben's woes brimmeth over....

But just how much does it brimmeth over ??

Watch the movie for that....

The movie has some really stupefying answers for your questions....

Telling any more of the story would be spoiling the fun for you , and because the entertainment of those who read my reviews is uppermost in my mind ( see how much I care about you !! he he ) , I will desist from telling any more details of the movie....

Acting by Ben Affleck is good for once---at last he has become a good actor....

See how he acts in front of a camera faking how much he supposedly loved his wife....

And see how much pain and anguish he really feels at all that is happening around him....

The movie unfolds in flashbacks as a diary written by his wife ( acted out by Rosamund Pike ) is read out to us and she comes to life through the diary....

And the diary tells a story of a lovely marriage hitting the rocks....

And as she comes in the flashbacks , Rosamund puts up a great performance....

I particularly liked the soft way in which she talked , the soft way in which she talked not at all giving any hint of what was to come....

And what was to come , blew my mind away when it came....

I also liked the acting by the actress who played Ben's sister---and the sister is loyal and so supportive all the way, so loving , so caring....Vow !! I wished I had such a sister....Why doesn't God make such women any more....??

The plot twisted and turned several times giving some high blood pressure to weak hearts....

Some parts shown in the film were not realistic , but that is to be expected in this kind of movie---for what is a good movie without these kind of bloopers ??

But it did give some entertainment to savor....

And kept me royally interested throughout...

Verdict---Don't miss it....

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Edited by Himalaya10 - 6 years ago
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WAR ! ( - a disappoint-er ! )

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One of the world's best dancers -Check

One of the world's best martial artists-Check

A humongous budget and production values- Check

And yet,the product that comes out of this is a bloated,idiotic actioner that fails in its basic purpose. The makers don't seem to know how to shoot and edit an action sequence. Despite being a direct lift from the Mission Impossible movies and the F and F franchise, the action in this one is overlong and utterly incoherent. Even the much awaited Hrithik vs Tiger showdown is a haphazardly edited affair.

The dialogues are trite and major parts of the movie drag. The insistence of the makers to add some awkward family sentiments extend the runtime. The only solace are the 2 musical numbers and HR's screen presence. But these can only carry a movie so far.

The suspense and twist made me wonder why on earth Tiger took up this role. The budget is gargantuan and it shows in the locales and production values.

If you've never seen an action movie in your life,chances are you'll find it tolerable. For the rest of us, go watch Tom Cruise dangle off a plane and look badass while doing it. Why opt for a sasta desi version

Rating:2/5(Poor)

And yeah, as HR promises the audience in the end, War is still On. Bhaago BC!!! lol. - aur nahin, bas aur nahin,... ghum pe pyaale,...

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Originally posted by: Himalaya10

^ Thanks for your so touching and heartily felt-ful analysis of the Movie,... that you saw, sensed and experienced,.. I Like and prefer these kinda movies also a lot,... just like our,.... Sadma, Barfi, Koshish, Achanak, aavishkar, Forrest Gump, Sargam, Mere apne, Phool aur paththar, Uddan, .. where a different kind of pain is churned,...

It seems, I must prepare myself for the Mood of watching smthg like previous ones, - Tom Hank’s,a Retarded kid movie : Forrest Gump or so,.. !Movie is new and I hate theater going,…. So I will wait.

One Who Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest.. si the Classic film like our Bees saal baad or Sholey,….

In Film Yaraana ( BigB ), Amitabh had played smwhat copy-cat characters of a "faked mental man" in the second part, that was an inspiration from this movie, I guess.

Well,...... happy Cinema watching to all,...... I like good watching n' reading rather than much tour and travel,..... My Hobby, to offset the rest fragments of hard-working n' stress-ful life,.. :)

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Thankyou thankyou :D

You know, after all these posts, I am starting to fear if the movie will end up being faaar lower than your expectations.. :p

You hate theater? ...whyyy :o

Yaarana and Cuckoo's Nest... hmm, interesting, they're both on my watchlist..

Travelling all over the world through books and movies while cozy at home :p

Edited by Angel-likeDevil - 6 years ago
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^ I watch movies very closely,... and few times I need repeat / rewind of dialect or scene-sequence, pause for personal needs,... if it went un-understood or found interesting,..even watch a little bit of beginning again, after completion,... to get the story completely,.. also flexibility,.. Watch at convenience in breaks, interval of time and day,...mod and side-work,..

Also, big screen and theater at home, now a days,... sofa,.. legs stretching, loose trouser and relaxing home-dress comfort, pizza- popcorn,... smthg to mulch on,... light and sound adjust facility,.... No disturbance climate,.. own dark nights, silence watching after 10pm,.... and these all luxury gives a more comfort level zone,.... !

Have seen tons of VDOS on tours and travellizm from local library VHSs long ago,.. when DVDs were not even there,... Travel to Rome, Paris, London train safars, .. and documentaries by well-known Travelers,... etc. I like that way, as camera zooming and angle is more sharper from bird view and all diff directions, even better than you physically go there and watch Big Ben or Eiffel Tower,..

You did not see Yarana of Big B, at its prime-times of Peak? How come ? Certain movies when you watch after-time in diff. time-era they seems average, as Time, flavor, has passed by,.... and surpassed technology, now do not let you admit its original charm which was at that time,.....

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