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Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Also, HS and Babita need to be on solid footing too before Ashok makes an entry in my opinion.

Perhaps, but Babita explicitly sent him away and washed her hands off him, and then had the outburst with the senior Khuranas. So if he came back now, she would still be quite over him, with perhaps discussions limited to parental things, if at all.

Minnie has done no such thing. She didn't even have a say in the send off and still yearns for him in some way.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

That's what I last saw on his Insta. Dunno what his role is in it though. 🤔

Now even I'm getting a little excited for this Dad vs. Dad fight.

Yeah! Love that fighter monkey of yours.

Originally posted by: inlieu

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   Minnie is far from accepting her Hanuman Uncle as a father, not because there's anything wrong with him but because she doesn't think about her own feelings or needs at this point. She has never actually sat down to think about what she feels about Ashok right now, or the void that he left behind as a father, or even whether or not she wants that void to be filled by HS or anyone. She isn't paying attention to her own needs, just focusing on Babita. Her trying to give Hanita space is again more for Babita than HS, but in the process she's distancing herself further from HS.
   
   
   
   HS takes the concept of haq and boundaries very seriously, as we have all seen. When Babita drew them, he kept his distance. Now that he feels that what he had thought he shared with his Veer Balika was all one-sided, in his head, and that perhaps he had been a fool to have stepped into boundaries he had failed to see but had just been reminded of, he is keeping his distance. That is conflicting with his natural instinct to go to Minnie as a father and as her Hanuman Uncle. I can't forget the words, he used when he told her in tears what it had meant to him when she had given him the confidence that he was her hero, he was the best. All that confidence was shattered. He had been living like a zombie after Imarti had died, and Minnie had not just brought hope and sunshine into his life, but also a sense of being needed, of being wanted, of being responsible for someone. He is now questioning those very assumptions he had made and wondering how he, who usually had a good sense of judgement, had gone so wrong.
   
   
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@bold. Wasnt mickey taking about that to Mini exactly. All she does & feels is for babes. infact he asked her if she even felt sad for her self(i can only remember the time when she let go of her dream college. Untill mini leans to feel for herself other than babes she will not think of the void left behind by ashok, nor of hanuman as a father.

@ red. i want to know what makes hanuman suddenly think so. just because he thinks mini deliberately played the cd to hurt him. why did he think of the fbs where mini was angry after the audio clip thing and she wanted to takes babes away from HS, whereas that incident was done with after mini geniunely apologised. And even if he thought of that in the heat of the moment and blamed mini hasnt a lot happened after that audioclip thing where mini has stood for him even when babita dint and spent so many good moments after that. And dosent HS have enough time to think over that it was not minis intention to hurt him with the CD. Babita has done and said worse to him to hurt him but here with mini where is that leeway to mini. this is where i find the whole hanuman mini forced. It would be very sad if hanuman- mini relationship needs the CD truth to come out for hanuman to trust mini again

Reposting here from another thread:

HS is afraid, very very afraid. After that CD of Ashok and Babita's wedding was played, he remembered what he had tried to push far back in his mind, that she was not his (biological) child, that unlike Imarti, Ashok was still very much alive, and his parents lived across the street.

Since the beginning he has been protective towards Minnie and until recently, has been able to mold her without the Khuranas' presence. However, that video triggered his insecurities, made him question his worthiness of being her father. It also did something HS hasn't come to terms with but that probably scared him: it awakened his possessiveness for his daughter. That video reminded him that Ashok could come and lay claim to her or try to take his 'rightful' place in Minnie's life since there was still some unfinished business between them and since she still officially didn't have a father.

The senior Khuranas were her tangible connection to Ashok and if she still missed a father and didn't think HS was qualified for that place in her life, it meant the spot would remain vacant for Ashok to slip in to any time. It's a different matter that Minnie may not want any father in her life, neither Ashok, nor HS, but HS has some deep-seated insecurity (which in time might even be revealed to be mixed with jealousy) that Ashok has something he could never have: the same DNA as Minnie. It is those blood ties that will keep her connected to the Khuranas and by extension always leave the door open for Ashok to walk back into their lives and take HS' little girl away from him, the sunshine that had come into his life after many years of darkness.

I saw all of that in his eyes when he was in tears before the wedding, when he felt as if the fantasy bubble he had been living in with the apple of his eyes, was burst by the reality of that video. He had missed her childhood but had been looking forward to a lifetime of raising her (with her mother), but perhaps he had been foolish to think she would want such a thing and that she actually saw him as her mother's husband, nothing more. Since he now feels he has no right to act as a father or to have any expectations of her as his daughter, the previous bonds of the heart that he had thought they had shared was just his imagination, and the only way for him to connect to her officially would be through Babita.

The more she leans towards the Khuranas the greater the chances of conflict between Babita and her, and if Minnie doesn't get along with Babita because of this, it by extension weakens her connection with HS. He cannot afford to let that happen for risk of losing her to her grandparents but he cannot explicitly forbid her either. Hence he expresses his wishes by proxying them through as Babita's. It is interesting that the once independent Minnie is developing a dependence on her grandparents in order to escape her troubles. Sure, they are always going to be her grandparents and she should have the chance to decide if she wants them in her life or not, but I think once HS realizes what is happening with Minnie he will be able to help her curb her over-dependence on them.

As NB explained, it wouldn't be right to expect Minnie to break all ties with them unless she herself wants to do so. I have a feeling this will not happen. Now that Minnie knows Babita is in safe hands with HS she will be a lot more at ease (and guilt-free) mentally to interact with the Khuranas because she has been able to accomplish her mission of giving Babita her happiness through this wedding. They are an escape route for her, one that allows her to be a child in the absence of the safe space she previously had under the care of HS, who she now thinks does not want her. It also allows her to be herself and remain aloof from Babita, whose responsibility she has become tired of shouldering but does not realize or want to acknowledge. She is pushing Babita towards HS so she can begin her new life but she is also pushing her mother away so that she can have some breathing room, her own space where she doesn't have to worry about her 24/7. That is why Mickey's questions sting and why she does not want to explore her feelings in her diary. Perhaps once she really sits down she will come to face her own fears and they will accelerate her breakdown. They will also help her see clearly who sits where in her life and what she wants from those around her. Like Babita, she will also have to learn to ask for what she wants, be a little selfish about her own happiness too sometimes, rather than live a spartan life of emotions.

I honestly don't see how anyone other than NB or HS can help her out, but for that to happen, HS has to put aside his feelings and go back to the being the person he was when he first met his Veer Balika, generous, open-minded, and willing to do whatever it took to help her out. Not necessarily as a parent, but as someone who cares about her well-being and is unable to see her sullen face because it hurts him.

Originally posted by: naq5

1. @bold. Wasnt mickey taking about that to Mini exactly. All she does & feels is for babes. infact he asked her if she even felt sad for her self(i can only remember the time when she let go of her dream college. Untill mini leans to feel for herself other than babes she will not think of the void left behind by ashok, nor of hanuman as a father.

2. @ red. i want to know what makes hanuman suddenly think so. just because he thinks mini deliberately played the cd to hurt him. why did he think of the fbs where mini was angry after the audio clip thing and she wanted to takes babes away from HS, whereas that incident was done with after mini geniunely apologised. And even if he thought of that in the heat of the moment and blamed mini hasnt a lot happened after that audioclip thing where mini has stood for him even when babita dint and spent so many good moments after that. And dosent HS have enough time to think over that it was not minis intention to hurt him with the CD. Babita has done and said worse to him to hurt him but here with mini where is that leeway to mini. this is where i find the whole hanuman mini forced. It would be very sad if hanuman- mini relationship needs the CD truth to come out for hanuman to trust mini again

1. Yes, exactly. Mickey had probably decided to speak to her about this after the wedding but he isn't here now and by the time he gets back more damage would be done. Preet and she just don't have that bond which would enable her to share such personal things, nor would Preet be able to pick up the nuances in Minnie's behavior. Also, Minnie's genuinely trying to focus on her studies, so she might procrastinate thinking about those deeper issues.

2. I have been thinking about this too. I know one of the main reasons is simply that the CVs wanted some over-the-top drama for the sake of TRPs but the fact is that they need to conclude this track at some point. For that to happen, they must show us some pretty good reasoning. HS suddenly appearing to accuse Minnie about the CD just seems very out of character, especially considering how consistent his character and their bond has been portrayed, more or less. Or are they pointing to some behavioral issues he has of lashing out when hurt and saying things that cause a lot of damage, like he had done with Babita (which also seemed contrived)?.

I hope he does actively investigate who sabotaged the CD playback because that would show he believes MInni was innocent, but most importantly, that Khatri is caught and punished for his crimes.

Agree with you, I don't think HS trusting Minnie should depend on the truth of the CD coming out. However, when it does come out, I want it to be a starting point for conversation between them so that he can clearly explain to her (and us) why he reacted the way he did. It seemed as if he himself didn't really believe it when he was saying those things but they never showed him thinking aloud or introspection so I can't say for sure what was on his mind.

I think there is something else there, his tears came from a lot of agony inside of him, potentially what I had written about his fear/jealousy, but even that doesn't account 100% for his behavior. I am missing something but I have no idea what CVs have in mind. It will hopefully be a mind-blowing reason that answers our questions, if the CVs are still on track with the storyline.

I think Mickey is not in picture for a reason. CVs want to make things worse. Maybe when he'll be back, things would've been pushed to the breakpoint. Maybe he'll drill sense into Mini regarding HS and Babes.

Jean was right - we want him!

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

I think Mickey is not in picture for a reason. CVs want to make things worse. Maybe when he'll be back, things would've been pushed to the breakpoint. Maybe he'll drill sense into Mini regarding HS and Babes.

Jean was right - we want him!

As I was saying on the other thread (we should maybe converge all posts here), I am in two minds about this.

Best if Mickey talks to both Minnie and HS, and lets one of them approach the other. I'm slightly more in favor of HS making the first move.

Can someone tell me where the door to Hanita's room was before? Was it always there and hidden by something? I don't remember ever noticing it before.

Dunno why this got posted before. But my official whole response is on page 16.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Can someone tell me where the door to Hanita's room was before? Was it always there and hidden by something? I don't remember ever noticing it before.

It was there before also we never noticed it... In fact HS has kept his charpayi in front of the room itself....