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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Thanks for the amendment!

I appreciate the CVs tackling the emotional aspects of their relationship first. I feel like it will make their union that much more meaningful as they would be each other's in every sense of the matter. I have complete faith in them. They haven't let us down yet and they will surely deal with this topic with the kind of sensitivity it deserves.

Arey, you don't need to thank me for that, man😆.....waise what's your name? I can call you asmaani, if that works😆

After ages, I have full faith in a set of writers too.....that said, I do feel that the episodes after the wedding will set the tone of the future of the show in a crucial manner, which is why I'm curious to see if the writers will manage to balance everything beautifully as they always do.....there's a lot to balance.....HS-Babita navigating the new phase of their relationship - intimacy, emotions, all that..... HMB adjusting to their new dynamics as a family post the wedding, a new layer of haq added to what they all feel for each other - and the adjustments that come with haq.....HS reconciling his past and present vis a vis Imarti and Babita....all of these will have to be balanced very sensitively.....because I feel ab ek naazuk waqt aane wala hai where these already sensitive emotions will have be handled even more sensitively.....and I want these writers to live up to my faith again.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Arey, you don't need to thank me for that, man😆.....waise what's your name? I can call you asmaani, if that works😆

After ages, I have full faith in a set of writers too.....that said, I do feel that the episodes after the wedding will set the tone of the future of the show in a crucial manner, which is why I'm curious to see if the writers will manage to balance everything beautifully as they always do.....there's a lot to balance.....HS-Babita navigating the new phase of their relationship - intimacy, emotions, all that..... HMB adjusting to their new dynamics as a family post the wedding, a new layer of haq added to what they all feel for each other - and the adjustments that come with haq.....HS reconciling his past and present vis a vis Imarti and Babita....all of these will have to be balanced very sensitively.....because I feel ab ek naazuk waqt aane wala hai where these already sensitive emotions will have be handled even more sensitively.....and I want these writers to live up to my faith again.

Agree @Areyaar .. the Dynamics will change between the three, i.e. their right of the relationship will also play a big role. So far babes sensitive feelings are being taken care of .. but even hs insecurity/fear needs to be handled carefully. His fear of losing imarti to babita .. along with that Minnie will need to step up to think for herself .. until now her world was her babes ..

I have faith in writers .. their vision is already set in stone, just waiting to see how they have carved the characters beyond this ..

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: sanam912

Agree @Areyaar .. the Dynamics will change between the three, i.e. their right of the relationship will also play a big role. So far babes sensitive feelings are being taken care of .. but even hs insecurity/fear needs to be handled carefully. His fear of losing imarti to babita .. along with that Minnie will need to step up to think for herself .. until now her world was her babes ..

I have faith in writers .. their vision is already set in stone, just waiting to see how they have carved the characters beyond this ..

@bold: Exactly....that RIGHT.....the HAQ....I feel that will be the core around which everything will turn yet again.....they've built up so much regarding that uptil this point.....HS-Babita danced around a lot of things because of that aspect of haq.....now HS has given Babita the HAQ of a Makaanmaalkin....but once the actual wedding happens is when that HAQ will fully come into play.....for all three of them.....the haq of a husband over his wife....the haq of a wife over her husband....the haq of a father over his daughter.....the haq of a daughter over her father.

Yes, Mini-HS have already strengthened their bond through a lot of phases and already started jataaoing the haq of baap-beti over each other....but I feel this haq will take on new shades as they both balance it alongside their haq over Babita. I suspect some clashes will be inevitable.

And then there's Mini herself.....the writers are building up to big developments coming up for her as well as she begins to learn to think for herself, to let her Babes have the space to make her own decisions without any prompting, learning to think of her own emotional vulnerabilities.....

HS's insecurities/fears will likely all get addressed during that journey of haq between him and Babita.....I'm deffo curious to see how the writers balance it.

The vision is stupendous.....I'm floored by these writers so much......and I want to continue being floored by the writing first and foremost.....even though I feel wary of expecting too much.....lol....ah this conundrum.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Exactly....that RIGHT.....the HAQ....I feel that will be the core around which everything will turn yet again.....they've built up so much regarding that uptil this point.....HS-Babita danced around a lot of things because of that aspect of haq.....now HS has given Babita the HAQ of a Makaanmaalkin....but once the actual wedding happens is when that HAQ will fully come into play.....for all three of them.....the haq of a husband over his wife....the haq of a wife over her husband....the haq of a father over his daughter.....the haq of a daughter over her father.

Yes, Mini-HS have already strengthened their bond through a lot of phases and already started jataaoing the haq of baap-beti over each other....but I feel this haq will take on new shades as they both balance it alongside their haq over Babita. I suspect some clashes will be inevitable.

this should actually begin with her calling him out as papaji of or bapu .. more than 'thanedar ki chori'

And then there's Mini herself.....the writers are building up to big developments coming up for her as well as she begins to learn to think for herself, to let her Babes have the space to make her own decisions without any prompting, learning to think of her own emotional vulnerabilities.....

Yes .. all those dialogues between her & Mickey are infact pointing towards that direction .. The feeling of actually being by herself with babes focus shifting to HS explicitly ..

HS's insecurities/fears will likely all get addressed during that journey of haq between him and Babita.....I'm deffo curious to see how the writers balance it.

somewhere he has given the space to both mother/daughter .. Daughter's space/significance is different .. she isn't going to take over imarti .. but with Babita .. It's different .. and I m sensing it's his fear which is posing as an insecurity of not being able to let go of imarti by not allowing Babita to enter that space .. It's the realization that he needs to have that by letting her in he isn't giving away imarti's space to Babita .. he is only mkaing more space for both of them ..

The vision is stupendous.....I'm floored by these writers so much......and I want to continue being floored by the writing first and foremost.....even though I feel wary of expecting too much.....lol....ah this conundrum.

Have you seen any of old Ravi Rai serials .. very dialogues heavy but extremely philosophical in nature and talks about human nature, behavior, emotions etc .. Of all the shows, I have absolutely loved his Sailaab & Sparsh

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Posted: 6 years ago

I keep coming back to the use of the Amrit Manthan analogy.....it's used so interestingly in the dialogues.

On one side, HS reflects on the fact that Babita has kept so much poison inside herself so many years, it has to be churned out to the surface, and HS will have to ingest it as it comes out of her.....then he also reflects on the fact that he is but a human being, not a God....so how will he live after ingesting all that poison?

It's so sad to think about.....Babita has spent so many years becoming the person she is.....this poison exists inside her....a man who loves her wants to help exorcise it out of her....but in the process, he too will be impacted by that poison....so that by the time the poison comes out of her, he will then instead become the one filled with poison?

And does the fact that both of them have poison inside them make them unworthy of love? Isn't that the whole story of life in a nutshell? Yeh zeher takes turns moving through us....kisi mein badhta hai, kisi mein ghat-ta hai.....it leaves an impact.....you cannot have a permanent rosy existence where no poison can exist because all are good.....as we see in this story, even people as good as HS and Babita can be forced to ingest and live with poison inside them for a myriad of reasons....despite their goodness, or perhaps BECAUSE of it....and the tragic irony being that that poison can then poison their happy relationships too. In a situation like this, you can't really begrudge a person....you can only feel for the overall tragedy of life circumstances for some.

The thought does stay with you that everything leaves a mark....good or bad....no word, no action happens in isolation....somewhere an imprint is left that can morph into different things as time passes.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: sanam912

this should actually begin with her calling him out as papaji of or bapu .. more than 'thanedar ki chori'

Yes, that is deffo one of the next steps....will they ease into it naturally as usual with HS-Mini or show an arc for her working towards calling him Papa, Daddyji, jo bhi.....I hope they show an emotional scene for it.....yes, she does already call herself his daughter, his beti in many scenes....but she still calls him Uncle....so that transition needs to happen at some point....otherwise verbally hi sahi, woh ek gap reh jaata hai....

somewhere he has given the space to both mother/daughter .. Daughter's space/significance is different .. she isn't going to take over imarti .. but with Babita .. It's different .. and I m sensing it's his fear which is posing as an insecurity of not being able to let go of imarti by not allowing Babita to enter that space .. It's the realization that he needs to have that by letting her in he isn't giving away imarti's space to Babita .. he is only mkaing more space for both of them ..

Exactly.....giving Mini the space of a daughter is much easier because he never had a child before....it's a blank slate for him on that front that Mini easily filled with her presence....but the space for a wife is not a blank slate...and that is why he struggles.....yes, there is definitely a huge fear inside him that if he lets Babita in, Imarti's place will be threatened....so he has to reconcile to the fact that they both have their own space as his wife....it will be a lot to work through....especially because Babita's own insecurities will be in the mix....anything she perceives as rejection may also throw her back to her own experiences with Ashok....so they both have to help each other through this.

I do find it interesting that the show has kept it realistic enough in that it's not black and white....aisa nahin ki HS could only agree to marry Babita if he was over his insecurities.....no, he still wanted to marry her despite all these fears in his heart because his love for her helps him rise above those fears again and again.....it will in the future also.....he wants to be hopeful despite all the fears in his heart.....ki somehow it all will work out somehow.

Have you seen any of old Ravi Rai serials .. very dialogues heavy but extremely philosophical in nature and talks about human nature, behavior, emotions etc .. Of all the shows, I have absolutely loved his Sailaab & Sparsh

I think I watched some of Sailaab way back....ofcourse that was the era when TV had classy, nuanced shows.....such shows sadly don't exist anymore.

Which is why I'm amazed PB is allowed to exist in today's TV scenario....it harks back to that old era of shows rich with emotions, nuanced explorations of human psyche etc.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, it's a common superstition in India😆....especially in the North.....cuz everyone's obsessed with fairness and complexion all the time😆.

HS making that comment just lent more authenticity to his rustic Haryanvi vibe....that's exactly how someone from a village background would talk.

Exactly! I was really impressed that he did indeed manage to convey that rustic feel and wasn't trying to pretend to be Haryanvi as we see in other shows where people try to act as if they belong to a certain reason. All the work that Aniruddh has done on his character has really taken it to another level.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Itni aasaani se admit kar legi kya Babita if she likes his shakal now? 😆.....she finds it easier to praise his good hearted nature, his care, his concern....his love for Mini.

Shakal ke baare mein bol diya toh LOG KYA KAHENGE?😳😆

You mean will she admit that she finds his shakal drool-worthy?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Yup!

I think we talked about this before but Hanita have fallen in love with each other's souls. They haven't really considered the physical aspects of their relationship. Just occupying the same room as each other will shake them up so much toh tareef karna aur ek doosre ko chedna toh bohot door ki baat hai. 😆

I too think Babes will be forthcoming in terms of complimenting HS' sundrata. Bas time lage ga. Aadat ni hai na usko pati ki tareef karne mein. 😳😆

Correct, and that's what will make it everlasting but they are physically quite aware of each other, always have been.

Also, I cracked up on the reminder regarding his sundarta. He has already told her she is beautiful, khoobsoorat. Now it's her turn to tell him how strong and dashing he is, how handsome and charming, etc. We can assist her with vocabulary if she needs.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Arey, you don't need to thank me for that, man😆.....waise what's your name? I can call you asmaani, if that works😆

After ages, I have full faith in a set of writers too.....that said, I do feel that the episodes after the wedding will set the tone of the future of the show in a crucial manner, which is why I'm curious to see if the writers will manage to balance everything beautifully as they always do.....there's a lot to balance.....HS-Babita navigating the new phase of their relationship - intimacy, emotions, all that..... HMB adjusting to their new dynamics as a family post the wedding, a new layer of haq added to what they all feel for each other - and the adjustments that come with haq.....HS reconciling his past and present vis a vis Imarti and Babita....all of these will have to be balanced very sensitively.....because I feel ab ek naazuk waqt aane wala hai where these already sensitive emotions will have be handled even more sensitively.....and I want these writers to live up to my faith again.

Yes, the concept of haq and how it's explored is what I'm looking forward to after the wedding is over.

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