Vidya and Kangana are supremely talented but...

Vidya Balan and Kangana Ranaut are two supremely talented actresses we have today. However, the hatred against them on this forum is quite unprecedented. I have seen posts against them which are talking about everything except their talent. Why is this?

Also, I have seen posts against Deepika whose popularity and stardom is questioned.

I think we should take certain facts at face value rather than discussing and debating.

1. Vidya and Kangana are supremely talented

2. Deepika is a superstar

Rest we can debate about anything...but why dispute facts.

Deepika is not superstar but I'm not interested in arguing.😆

I think to be a fan fav, you need more than just talent. They might be talented but people obviously don't like them for one or the other reasons. I think your off screen personality plays an equally important role for you to be a star. If you are good on screen and equally good off screen, you are a complete package and people would obviously like you.

In case of Kangana, she might be a good actor but her off screen personality is so off putting that even if you like her movie you still won't be able to like her or call her your fav actor.

I give you an example. There was a time I used to like Salman Khan like anything. I would defend him for every damn thing. Then I started watching his interviews and his off screen antics, and his involvement in hit and run case, his violent personality and there came a time when I started doubting my own choice. Now I don't like him even a bit. He is talented and is called a superstar for a reason but today if you ask me if I like him, my answer would be no.

I don't know what to say about Vidya though. She was good in her early movies but then she put on so much weight and looks aged that it's difficult for people to picture her as a typical heroine. I'm not body shaming her but I cannot picture her with current lot of actors.

Are you trying to gain some sympathy for Kangu Rani, using Vidya??

People don't hate Vidya, just can't picture her as the typical heroine. And anyone arguing for her, tends to shame the person who questions Vidya, which leads to more Vidya bashing. It is not Kangu level dislike or even Deepika/Alia level dislike for Vidya in the forum.

Kangu ka case different hai, woh wahiyaat attention seeker hai, ishiliye most people don't like her.

I disagree with ur point 2 and I am done discussing/debating on this again n again 😴

Originally posted by: DelusionalMe

I think to be a fan fav, you need more than just talent. They might be talented but people obviously don't like them for one or the other reasons. I think your off screen personality plays an equally important role for you to be a star. If you are good on screen and equally good off screen, you are a complete package and people would obviously like you.

In case of Kangana, she might be a good actor but her off screen personality is so off putting that even if you like her movie you still won't be able to like her or call her your fav actor.

I give you an example. There was a time I used to like Salman Khan like anything. I would defend him for every damn thing. Then I started watching his interviews and his off screen antics, and his involvement in hit and run case, his violent personality and there came a time when I started doubting my own choice. Now I don't like him even a bit. He is talented and is called a superstar for a reason but today if you ask me if I like him, my answer would be no.

I don't know what to say about Vidya though. She was good in her early movies but then she put on so much weight and looks aged that it's difficult for people to picture her as a typical heroine. I'm not body shaming her but I cannot picture her with current lot of actors.

I think I get what you mean, but I am not talking about Vidya's and Kangana's stardom. I agree one is heavily overweight and the other seems mental...but at least people should not question their talent, which is quite disturbing, to say the least. One can criticize them on other grounds, but still acknowledge they are they are the best talents we have. What I mean to say is, we should be objective when it comes to talent.

Stardom is a different topic altogether...that, I agree, is subjective and depends on many factors. Unless you are an SRK or Salman, whose stardom remains undisputed. I put Deepika in the category of female superstar but a lot of people dislike her on this forum.

Originally posted by: Thug-Leader

Are you trying to gain some sympathy for Kangu Rani, using Vidya??

People don't hate Vidya, just can't picture her as the typical heroine. And anyone arguing for her, tends to shame the person who questions Vidya, which leads to more Vidya bashing. It is not Kangu level dislike or even Deepika/Alia level dislike for Vidya in the forum.

Kangu ka case different hai, woh wahiyaat attention seeker hai, ishiliye most people don't like her.

No, that was not my aim. I am not a Kangana fan, by any means. If anything, I also find her off-screen personality repulsive.

i have been on this forum since many years esp when Vidya was at her prime with movies like TDP, kahaani, she had a lot of haters and u gotta believe they were mostly salman fans. yes its true there's no comparison b/w the two but somehow they believed in pulling down VB on every thread.

Vidya has been always hated for her weight, then her acting or whatever, people had a problem with a woman becoming successful having so much of weight, noone ever thought that it could be a thryoid or some other problem that has always troubled her, instead of appreciating for what she did n achieved ppl just enjoyed bringing her down.

and then ghanchakkar happened and VB's career slid down then came kangana with back 2 back hits like queen and TWMR 2 and she became a star, but even that time she used to receive hate for her statements and then her public spat happened with HR and all hell break loose, for kangana, i agree that now she puts me off offscreen and i don't follow her anymore but have to give it to her that she is a very good actress, without much of a proper acting course, she has achieved a lot on her own. i wish her offscreen persona had been more calm n composed.

so what I gathered all in all is that u can't shut negativity or trolling but what u can do from ur side is to appreciate the thing u like. that's in your hands. haters shall remain haters...because criticism is different and very healthy. so u know what u gotta do. And yes, everyone can't be a package in bollywood, u can survive on talent and we have great examples like irrfan khan, nawazzudin, sanjay mishra who are doing fantastic in their ripe age and they r neither good looking nor superstars. its just a matter of perception

Vidya and Kangu are supremely talented but....

Don't forget #2

Originally posted by: RheaSingh

i have been on this forum since many years esp when Vidya was at her prime with movies like TDP, kahaani, she had a lot of haters and u gotta believe they were mostly salman fans. yes its true there's no comparison b/w the two but somehow they believed in pulling down VB on every thread.

Vidya has been always hated for her weight, then her acting or whatever, people had a problem with a woman becoming successful having so much of weight, noone ever thought that it could be a thryoid or some other problem that has always troubled her, instead of appreciating for what she did n achieved ppl just enjoyed bringing her down.

and then ghanchakkar happened and VB's career slid down then came kangana with back 2 back hits like queen and TWMR 2 and she became a star, but even that time she used to receive hate for her statements and then her public spat happened with HR and all hell break loose, for kangana, i agree that now she puts me off offscreen and i don't follow her anymore but have to give it to her that she is a very good actress, without much of a proper acting course, she has achieved a lot on her own. i wish her offscreen persona had been more calm n composed.

so what I gathered all in all is that u can't shut negativity or trolling but what u can do from ur side is to appreciate the thing u like. that's in your hands. haters shall remain haters...because criticism is different and very healthy. so u know what u gotta do. And yes, everyone can't be a package in bollywood, u can survive on talent and we have great examples like irrfan khan, nawazzudin, sanjay mishra who are doing fantastic in their ripe age and they r neither good looking nor superstars. its just a matter of perception

I agree, but people take trolling to another level on this forum. I don't see why we can't just appreciate facts and let facts do the talking. For example-- see people's reaction when I called Deepika a superstar. I don't know on which parallel universe they are living. She was hailed as one of the top 100 most powerful people in India in a pll recently; no other actress made it there. Not only that, all her films are blockbusters, and she has a mass following on Instagram and Twitter, with fans actually invested in her, as we saw in the Luv Ranjan controversy. In fact, people are such trolls that they think my genuine posts are fake and I'm trying to get her bashed. I'm sure you have seen that.