Minnie:‌ A 17-year-old mother finally becoming a teenager! - Page 3

Originally posted by: riti4u

Two scenes that you mentioned are really beautiful. I was watching these episodes again.. and I am just loving HS and Minnie's bond more and more.. I love all their scenes together. I guess whenever Minnie has cried in front of HS ,he has teared up a bit.. or got affected with her tears... Contrast between him and Ashok was also so evident in the episode where Minnie shrieks out loud in court for her mother's sake.. Only HS comes to place his hand on her and way Minnie trusted him to call out his name.. their dynamics if I come to think of it from start have been so special.. Minnie was enraged and pulled out chair on khatri when he held that and make her realise that this anger is no good... The way he lets her into his past life.. allowing her to see his vulnerable side ..step she takes to confront her real dad for HS.. I felt they were building this relationship stronger by small things.. whether his pacifying her on Lodi or after court mishap by wise words..and comfort that she sort ..there were scenes where HS has truly acted as a dad and Minnie was standing like a child in front of him fearing his scolding.. be it his outburst when he realized she missed her admission test or when she lied about her suspension from college.. in that scene next to it. .he also reprimanded her mother for making his veer balika so timid that she feared facing world.. aww I can go on and on with these two..

Absolutely. In these few months they have both gone through ups and downs against the world and against each other, but their bond has only gotten stronger and their love only deeper. Minnie has also learned great life lessons, especially about commitment and loyalty.

The way he has always balanced discipline with affection has been a great experience for her. He knows when to be gentle with her if she makes mistakes and when to be firm, such as his famous counts to 3 or 5. Babita, in 17 years, has never managed to achieve this. Minnie had once told Ashok that she had always longed for his affection but also to be disciplined by him. She got none of those. Instead he raised his hand on her. HS on the other hand, never did such a thing no matter how grave her mistake. In fact, when she apologized to him after returning from hospital she was begging him to slap her if required, willing to accept it as her punishment. Here she appealed to his strict side but at the same time looked for his affection as she refused to let him go till her forgave her. That one scene beautifully sums up their dynamics.

They say it's the small things that count, and in the case of these two we have seen numerous small things that have counted, and how!

You expressed everything that i have always felt.

Originally posted by: annx

Thank you. and thank you for highlighting things I did miss out on...

About sibling rivalry... but then are you not expecting too much maturity and sensibility from a mere 17-year-old child - who will have her own insecurities. I am not saying she has to hate the child. But there will be insecurities. Her mother will be shared. In her mind, she might now remain as important to Hanuman once his own child arrives. These insecurities could be and should be explored, and handled and explained. Hanuman can easily promise her that no matter what, she will always remain his firstborn (or something along those lines)... Point being, Minnie is a 17-year-old kid who has seen too much and suffered much more than any normal teenager and anything new will cause insecurities.

Also, have you seen Badhai Ho? Those feelings should also be explored. Those are real feelings. When friends her age are getting married, being pregnant, having kids - she is going to have a sibling!

@TM

Excellent post by you, dear! 👏

Yes.. I’m also looking forward to HS Babita having kid and Minni being a very good elder sister to the kid.. having her own share of insecurities / sibling rivalry, etc.

IMO, Minni doesn’t need to fall in love with Micky! She can go to London to study and become a successful Photographer and make her parents proud of her!

Originally posted by: inlieu

Just reading your main post again annx.

Loved your choice of words and especially these bits in bold:

Hanuman Singh unknowingly, unintentionally, unabashedly became a father Minnie never had. He was there for her when she least expected. Be it to train her, to get her admission, to when she broke her foot, to every time she broke down because of her real father. He was there to hold her, to wipe her tears, to guide her, to support her, to teach her, to hug her. He was there when she was a mess. He supported her, trusted her as a father should. When a boy framed her, it was Hanuman who not only helped her clean her image but also stood by her and trusted her. He was her support.

I remember how moved I was in the scene where he talks to Minnie about Ashok's arrest and cannot control his tears at seeing her hurting, trying to be brave, and failing. That bit when she looks up at him and tears well up in her eyes as her breathing becomes ragged, still pierces my heart. And then of course the way he hugged her and cried with her after failing to control his own tears makes that a very special moment in their lives for me. He was able to break her defenses down where her own mother had failed, because as you said, she could be a child for once, she could, without hesitation, "burden" him with her fears and troubles, knowing that he would understand.

Months ago when Ashok returned, Minnie, like any child, had hoped her father would bring her gifts. Her gift was a doll. Her father had forgotten her age. He did not even bother doing simple math. A doll for a 17-year-old daughter. I still remember the disappointment on her face. A father who came back after so many years did not even get his only child a suitable gift.

And then there was this father. He knew his daughter's dreams. His daughter did not have to ask for anything. He got her what she wanted. A camera with everything that came along with it… The happiness and the love she must have felt. There existed someone who would put her and her needs above himself. The security that it gave her, and the confidence that one day, everything would be fine.

Minnie never asked for a professional camera, but it took one little frown on her face as she mentioned its costs for HS to know what to do next. When he handed her the present he said they were not dolls. I had not watched the initial episodes then so I did not quite get it, only that I was in awe of this man's generosity and his ability to understand her dreams without hearing her speak of them. Only later when I had watched the episode where Ashok arrives did it dawn on me the significance of HS' words and how deep his love for his daughter was.

Uff! I'm so in love with this show.

Thank you!

@blue: While writing there were two scenes that I had in mind. One was the court scene where she screamed. HS wanted to go and rip Ashok apart but instead sat down with Minnie and comforted her. Then there was this scene where she went for the competition with a broken foot and he came to take her home but stood to root for her. He was both worried for her and rooting for her. Also, there was also the scene that you mentioned. Of course, there are too many scenes where HS stood up for Minnie.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I know I sound greedy, but I would want the bulk of her insecurities to come from sharing HS and not Babita. She will always be his child born of his heart so no one can take that place but yes, the thought of a biological child coming into the picture would change the balance.

Again, I love this show for going down this path. In other shows we'd have focus on mothers adopting and raising their kids but a father's emotions in such cases is not explored enough or is over-the-top. Even in the case of a biological child, since it grows inside the mother the focus is often on the mother-child bond. What about the father who forms a bond based on something intangible and feels paternal love the moment he finds out he is going to have a child? He has to wait "on the outside" and cannot share the physiological changes that the mother experiences. He already begins to dream of a bright future for his child, in which he expects to play a great role.

In HS' case, he missed out on all of these emotions of an expectant father with regards to Minnie. On the other hand, he must have had big dreams for his unborn baby which would never be fulfilled. Life is giving him a chance and meeting him half way. Being the wise man that he is, he has grabbed everything with both hands but not being part of either of his children's growing years is bound to strike him. I really really hope he speaks up about it much later in the story.

@bold: Yes. This is one reason Minnie and HS are more important for me. For some reason, I feel that father's love is always misrepresented and underrepresented on ITV or any TV for that matter. I feel the love of a father-daughter is so precious, so unique, so inexpressible. And this show is doing such a good job at expressing this love.

I understand that HS missed out on growing up years of Minnie and he might talk about it... But then Minnie also missed out on father's love while growing up... I would like the makers to focus on that as well. It would be nice to see some only father-daughter moments where they make up for the lost time.... not sure if I make sense here but...

Originally posted by: annx

@bold: Yes. This is one reason Minnie and HS are more important for me. For some reason, I feel that father's love is always misrepresented and underrepresented on ITV or any TV for that matter. I feel the love of a father-daughter is so precious, so unique, so inexpressible. And this show is doing such a good job at expressing this love.

I understand that HS missed out on growing up years of Minnie and he might talk about it... But then Minnie also missed out on father's love while growing up... I would like the makers to focus on that as well. It would be nice to see some only father-daughter moments where they make up for the lost time.... not sure if I make sense here but...

Agree with your second paragraph. I would really really love to see them bonding over fun stuff, not just when solving problems. One of my favorite tracks was when he was training her secretly, making her exercise and controlling her diet, and eventually his pride at watching her win the cup and saying God bless you.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Agree with your second paragraph. I would really really love to see them bonding over fun stuff, not just when solving problems. One of my favorite tracks was when he was training her secretly, making her exercise and controlling her diet, and eventually his pride at watching her win the cup and saying God bless you.

My favorite part in that was way Minnie tried touching his feet and he stopped her and embraced her.. he was so proud of her..

Hehe looks like my weekend is gonna go watching all old PB episodes

Originally posted by: riti4u

My favorite part in that was way Minnie tried touching his feet and he stopped her and embraced her.. he was so proud of her..

Hehe looks like my weekend is gonna go watching all old PB episodes

@bold yes, that's what I do too

No She is too young for this love nonsense. She needs to grow up and explore what she wants to do in life. Get a course and go to London and enjoy her teenage years.

Before finding love etc.

No Mickey for her. Why do Indians serials want such young girls and boys to be in love etc when they have the World at there feet to study and make there futures etc. Instead of this love nonsense and early marriage etc.

Such nonsense is shown in young girls in love etc.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Agree with your second paragraph. I would really really love to see them bonding over fun stuff, not just when solving problems. One of my favorite tracks was when he was training her secretly, making her exercise and controlling her diet, and eventually his pride at watching her win the cup and saying God bless you.

Yes. More fun stuff, teaming up against Babita, putting her to sleep, making coffee/tea for her while she studies for her exam (remember in the first few episodes it was shown that Babita never slept till Minnie has slept during the exam time - I'd like to see HS doing that)...

I loved it when Mickey and Minnie became friends and Babita accepted the friendship. HS accepted it too but not without giving a warning... a tear in Veer Balika's eyes because of you and I'll rip you apart!