Should teenagers swear allegiance to QN ?

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Should teenagers swear allegiance to the Queen?

School leavers in the UK would swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen under new government plans. Should pupils take part in special citizenship ceremonies?

The new proposals are part of a review of citizenship by the former attorney general Lord Goldsmith at the request of Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

New immigrants to the UK already take part in citizenship ceremonies. It is hoped that they would give young people a better idea of what it means to be British.

The proposals suggest holding citizenship ceremonies in schools when pupils are about to move on to further education or employment. John Dunford from the Association of School and College leaders said it was "a half-baked idea".

Would citizenship ceremonies improve young people's idea of what it means to be British? Would you like to take part in a citizenship ceremony? Do you pledge allegiance in your country? 😛
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Posted: 17 years ago
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No - it's a stupid idea.

I can be British and be proud of that - even contemplate owing allegiance to all that is British

But not to owe allegiance to Queeen.

A lot of the British feel tha same way - proud of what they are, but not necessarily of the Royal family.

It will never happen.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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kyoon naheen. dono prince key saath allegience ker saktey toh unn ki dadi maa ney kya paap kiya hai 😛
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gauri_3

kyoon naheen. dono prince key saath allegience ker saktey toh unn ki dadi maa ney kya paap kiya hai 😛

Not that I dont understand Hindi, but erm...would you care to elaborate??

Dono Prince key saath kisne allegiance kiya hai??😕

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Madmadgirl

Not that I dont understand Hindi, but erm...would you care to elaborate??

Dono Prince key saath kisne allegiance kiya hai??😕

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😆 it was a tongue in cheek remark aimed at girls having crushes on both the princes. now that u made me elaborate on it, i realizw what a pj it actually was😳 😆😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think a citizen of a nation should be expected to pledge allegiance to their country. In USA we pledge allegiance to a flag, in UK to a queen. I always viewed it as tradition. Silly tradition, but one carried on for ages and I honestly have no problem with it. I can see why people do have a problem considering the royal family has no significance with British nationalism.

You know I have met a bunch of Britons. As much as they may diss the royal family, dislike these silly traditions and desire to break out of it - they are still a stoic bunch of traditionalists who take deep pride in the history of their country. I think the silly allegiance to the Queen/King will remain for quite a while, its not an allegiance to the queen literally but the cultural history the royals represent just like its not a cloth on a pole thats significant it is the historic meaning it holds.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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hehe ever since 1st grade...(in usa) we have been sayin plegde allegiance 2 the flag.... its a tradition i guess... but hum bacche were 2 chote 2 understand wat we were actually sayin...n now when is good time for us 2 recite it...in high schoool....we dont anymore???? kyon, i dont no??? i didnt mind sayin it.... so i guess with queen..it wud be same scenario???? i guess it would make teenagers like me in UK would feel more important....tat they get 2 participate in somethin n feel part of culture n tradition n history of great britian....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think you'll find the very difference between the Yanks and us Brits is that we are proud to be different!!!!

Plus the UK is a blend of 4 countries, all of which sit kind of uncomfortably together but are at the same time very patriotic of their own country - whether England Scotland, Wales or N.Ireland. Each country has its own heritage and history.

Our Royal family incidentalyy is of German descent!!!!

See the problem! 😆




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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gauri_3

😆 it was a tongue in cheek remark aimed at girls having crushes on both the princes. now that u made me elaborate on it, i realizw what a pj it actually was😳 😆😆

Off Topic but couldn't stop 😆😆 here...Gaur's that was so innocently honest.😆

I agree with RTH @ "its not an allegiance to the queen literally but the cultural history the royals represent just like its not a cloth on a pole thats significant it is the historic meaning it holds." just another tradition followed not in literal sense.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Well....allegiance to your country is acceptable, yes, and it is what the norm is....
Since India is a democracy, we swear alleginace to our country (or are supposed to..), in USA its the flag, in Canada its the national anthem and the flag, and in Briton its the queen.....
What I don't get is....why does an individual stand for a country...or is it the institution of kingship that is being sworn on????

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