The twins - genes of both parents - Page 3

Originally posted by: Funny29

Sunny and Prachi in the hope Sunny doesn't have a baby face would be awesome,my favorite candidates would also be ( Arjit T., Dheeraj D., Adhvik M., Karan K., Ankit N., Kushagre D., Kunal J., Leenesh M., Nakuul M.) yes i like DD and ishqbaaaz 😳😊. Even Vin R. i know he plays Purab would be better than Krishna K. ,the role of a loving and supportive friend or brother figure for Prachi is already used by Aaryan i guess. For me is Krishna K. a supporting actor no lead actor.

I didn't watch prithviraj chauhan,but I watched JA and i like Rajat Tokas

Sunny actor can't be too old though... remember vin rana will be playing sunny's father still 😆 God knows how they will cast 27+ sunny as vin's on-screen son. Rajat is fab and I'm sure he and mughda still have chemistry, but I don't know whether it would be right to see him play vin and ruchi's (disha) son. God that would be odd. If they ever do decide to bring in ranbir's other brother who hasn't even been named yet, rajat would be fine playing son to the actor playing ranbir's father, vikram. Aryan and prachi aren't even given scenes together let alone aryan being her friend or brother figure, although I would love that because aliya would hate it; middle-class allergies and all😆

Sucks that you haven't seen rajat in prithviraj chauhan; you've missed out on seeing rajat at his young and admiral best as the warrior and PRC's success was followed by introductions of even more historical shows on ITV where just like rajat found fame for playing the young warrior, it in a way really paved the way for other child actors to play similar roles as young warriors so you could say rajat was in a away one of the original child warriors of ITV before ulka gupta, siddharth nigam. He was a major heartthrob when he was in his teens during PRC and PRC was the main reason why ekta first casted him in her show keshav pandit then continued casting him in many of her shows.

I also find Pragya to be selfish. She thinks about herself first rather than her children. She did the same to kiara also, keeping her away from her father as she’s doing to prachi. And she might not want to admit it, but prachi not having a father has affected her, and made her feel like she’s the reason her father is not around. I appreciate that she has a fear of losing prachi but she should give her daughter some credit at least- I can’t see prachi doing this and even if she does, mother’s have more legal rights on their children than fathers do so abhi would never be able to take prachi away and prachi isn’t one to get tempted by money and a big house (she’s been brought up well). In respect of kiara, I personally feel it was more Pragya’s fault that she died than abhi. She went to a man who in the end couldn’t be trusted (king), without her husbands knowledge instead of working with him to find a solution together. Even with king, she used him and then tossed him aside, even tho it was clear from day one that he wanted more (a man wouldn’t pretend to be your husband for years, bring up your child as his own and give you the rights as his wife if he didn’t want more). Even after leaving king so abruptly, she ignored him till she needed him again to help save kiara. Not that abhi is any better (he fails to see the wrongdoings of the ppl around him, now with Rhea also). They’re both as bad as each other, but as great as Pragya likes to act- she’s far from it and puts herself, her own needs and fears about that of her children and that’s not what parents do (not the good ones anyways) I agree with the original poster that she’s a hypocrite also (the suicide story). She’s quick to preach and lecture anyone who will listen but her own life is a mess, she’s separated her twins and damaged each child by not having the presence of the other parent. No matter what happens prachi and Rhea will always carry the emotional scar of feeling unloved and unwanted by the other parent, even if they all get back together - and this is all down to Pragya. Which mother agrees with such a brain dead idea to separate a set of newborn twins, give one to the father and one to the mother!!!

Deefy, that was my point to when I brought in this topic. But after misfit had explained, I guess I will tilt the balance slightly towards Pragya. I don't know what happened between King and her, so I cannot say anythingon that. But, yes, she can trust Prachi. She has been well brought up, grounded. So if at 20. she has the maturity, as even in initial Prachi episodes - she showed concern. Anyway, coming back to her fear of losing Prachi to Abhi, she cannot be blamed. Generally, I have seen single mothers especially to be very possessive especially if it is an only child. I think that is how Manu is bringing her story (her FF 😊).

Misfit ur idea of two heroes for R & P does make sense. But to have someone grounded for Rhea now, especially after the mincemeat they have made her character on Tuesday's episode, I don't think she will change for better. It would end up with the guy suffering because of her.

As for some guy I would also that it is Rajat Tokas if at all (elder brother to Ranbir). Even if he is cast as Purab-Disha's son, I guess it is kinda ok. But Nakul Mehta - that would be class- he is not only older than Vin Rana or Ruchi Savarn or Mugdha (who is incidentally older than both these two 😊), he is older than Sriti also 😃. Karan Wahi or Rajat is who I would like to see opposite Mugdha if it is not Krishna Kaul. But how let us see....

But, all in all, here we r analysing and thinking, let us see what the genius staff of Ekta's r going to bring. Going by the rotten rubbish we r seeing week after week, there is no scope of beautiful progress in this serial which has a lot of openings. I am expecting some kind of physical and mental humiliation of Prachi by Rhea and her friends. This happened in YHM and PR. If news of this is going to come up, I am going to stop for some days and just read the WU. But if this is going to happen, I want to see noble Pragya's and Dear pampering father Abhi's reaction if they get to know Rhea is the culprit.

Originally posted by: Janas2017

Deefy, that was my point to when I brought in this topic. But after misfit had explained, I guess I will tilt the balance slightly towards Pragya. I don't know what happened between King and her, so I cannot say anythingon that. But, yes, she can trust Prachi. She has been well brought up, grounded. So if at 20. she has the maturity, as even in initial Prachi episodes - she showed concern. Anyway, coming back to her fear of losing Prachi to Abhi, she cannot be blamed. Generally, I have seen single mothers especially to be very possessive especially if it is an only child. I think that is how Manu is bringing her story (her FF 😊).

Misfit ur idea of two heroes for R & P does make sense. But to have someone grounded for Rhea now, especially after the mincemeat they have made her character on Tuesday's episode, I don't think she will change for better. It would end up with the guy suffering because of her.

As for some guy I would also that it is Rajat Tokas if at all (elder brother to Ranbir). Even if he is cast as Purab-Disha's son, I guess it is kinda ok. But Nakul Mehta - that would be class- he is not only older than Vin Rana or Ruchi Savarn or Mugdha (who is incidentally older than both these two 😊), he is older than Sriti also 😃. Karan Wahi or Rajat is who I would like to see opposite Mugdha if it is not Krishna Kaul. But how today.

But, all in all, here we r analysing and thinking, let us see what the genius staff of Ekta's r going to bring. Going by the rotten rubbish we r seeing week after week, there is no scope of beautiful progress in this serial which has a lot of openings. I am expecting some kind of physical and mental humiliation of Prachi by Rhea and her friends. This happened in YHM and PR. If news of this is going to come up, I am going to stop for some days and just read the WU. But if this is going to happen, I want to see noble Pragya's and Dear pampering father Abhi's reaction if they get to know Rhea is the culprit.

It's honestly annoying me how many times writer's are going to show rhea make a plan of humiliating/ framing prachi in something. Too much repetitiveness, and the annoying thing is that each time abhi will only slap her, give her silent treatment then go back to talking to her normally but never punish her which each time encourages her to do something even more extreme each time against prachi. How many times will it take for rhea to harm/ plot against prachi before abhi realises that rhea isn't going to change by stopping planning against prachi and that he needs to give an actual punishment to rhea to ensure she doesn't do anything bad again?

Honestly I won't single out pragya as being the selfish or irresponsible parent as abhi has proved that he is all that far more than pragya. King would have never been in pragya's life if it wasn't for abhi himself.

Yes pragya did in fact use and throw king away, which I agree to, but I also didn't see it that badly for pragya to seek king's help, that is if we take away the fact she ignored him after she got back with abhi, but she did in fact trust king (she had no reason to not to when he has been kiara's father figure in all these years) and hence sought his help, not like abhi who repeatedly trusts or willingly lives with people like tanu and aliya even when he gets to know about their misdeeds.

Originally posted by: Janas2017

Deefy, that was my point to when I brought in this topic. But after misfit had explained, I guess I will tilt the balance slightly towards Pragya. I don't know what happened between King and her, so I cannot say anythingon that. But, yes, she can trust Prachi. She has been well brought up, grounded. So if at 20. she has the maturity, as even in initial Prachi episodes - she showed concern. Anyway, coming back to her fear of losing Prachi to Abhi, she cannot be blamed. Generally, I have seen single mothers especially to be very possessive especially if it is an only child. I think that is how Manu is bringing her story (her FF 😊).

Misfit ur idea of two heroes for R & P does make sense. But to have someone grounded for Rhea now, especially after the mincemeat they have made her character on Tuesday's episode, I don't think she will change for better. It would end up with the guy suffering because of her.

As for some guy I would also that it is Rajat Tokas if at all (elder brother to Ranbir). Even if he is cast as Purab-Disha's son, I guess it is kinda ok. But Nakul Mehta - that would be class- he is not only older than Vin Rana or Ruchi Savarn or Mugdha (who is incidentally older than both these two 😊), he is older than Sriti also 😃. Karan Wahi or Rajat is who I would like to see opposite Mugdha if it is not Krishna Kaul. But how today.

But, all in all, here we r analysing and thinking, let us see what the genius staff of Ekta's r going to bring. Going by the rotten rubbish we r seeing week after week, there is no scope of beautiful progress in this serial which has a lot of openings. I am expecting some kind of physical and mental humiliation of Prachi by Rhea and her friends. This happened in YHM and PR. If news of this is going to come up, I am going to stop for some days and just read the WU. But if this is going to happen, I want to see noble Pragya's and Dear pampering father Abhi's reaction if they get to know Rhea is the culprit.

This time if rhea does in fact do something major against prachi, there needs to be actual repercussions against rhea, such as her college reputation being hit with everyone getting to know what she did to prachi, ranbir realising that rhea is not the kind of girl he should be trying to associate himself with, abhi taking actual actions against her, pragya no longer liking or seeing rhea as an angel.

Originally posted by: deefy89

I also find Pragya to be selfish. She thinks about herself first rather than her children. She did the same to kiara also, keeping her away from her father as she’s doing to prachi. And she might not want to admit it, but prachi not having a father has affected her, and made her feel like she’s the reason her father is not around. I appreciate that she has a fear of losing prachi but she should give her daughter some credit at least- I can’t see prachi doing this and even if she does, mother’s have more legal rights on their children than fathers do so abhi would never be able to take prachi away and prachi isn’t one to get tempted by money and a big house (she’s been brought up well). In respect of kiara, I personally feel it was more Pragya’s fault that she died than abhi. She went to a man who in the end couldn’t be trusted (king), without her husbands knowledge instead of working with him to find a solution together. Even with king, she used him and then tossed him aside, even tho it was clear from day one that he wanted more (a man wouldn’t pretend to be your husband for years, bring up your child as his own and give you the rights as his wife if he didn’t want more). Even after leaving king so abruptly, she ignored him till she needed him again to help save kiara. Not that abhi is any better (he fails to see the wrongdoings of the ppl around him, now with Rhea also). They’re both as bad as each other, but as great as Pragya likes to act- she’s far from it and puts herself, her own needs and fears about that of her children and that’s not what parents do (not the good ones anyways) I agree with the original poster that she’s a hypocrite also (the suicide story). She’s quick to preach and lecture anyone who will listen but her own life is a mess, she’s separated her twins and damaged each child by not having the presence of the other parent. No matter what happens prachi and Rhea will always carry the emotional scar of feeling unloved and unwanted by the other parent, even if they all get back together - and this is all down to Pragya. Which mother agrees with such a brain dead idea to separate a set of newborn twins, give one to the father and one to the mother!!!

So what would she do? Leave both with Abhi? Or fight a custody battle with Abhi? Abhi being Rich and famous would win it. Which father agrees to a brain dead idea of separating a small baby from a mother.

Abhi and Pragya are both responsible for kiara s death and twins separation. Why should Pragya get the blame alone? Abhi was advancing towards Nikhil when asked not to and that’s why Nikhil slipped and fell.

Originally posted by: poiu123

So what would she do? Leave both with Abhi? Or fight a custody battle with Abhi? Abhi being Rich and famous would win it. Which father agrees to a brain dead idea of separating a small baby from a mother.

Abhi and Pragya are both responsible for kiara s death and twins separation. Why should Pragya get the blame alone? Abhi was advancing towards Nikhil when asked not to and that’s why Nikhil slipped and fell.

Agreed! Abhi would have hands down and unfairly be given the custody simply for being rich and famous, and no mother would want to leave her children. The truth is a mother is far more attached to her children than a father is.

And not like abhi has the capabilities to raise a child on his own and give them good values like pragya can and has shown. Yes she can't give her child riches and luxury, but how many children in this world have all that? Like less than 10% I would say perhaps.

Abhi doesn't even look after rhea at all and has a hired nanny and other women in his family looking after rhea whilst all he does is provide his child with luxuries and good education. On the other hand pragya gave her child everything she NEEDED (no unnecessary luxuries), made her daughter into a smart and independent girl with good values who is studying in a top college on the basis of her academic abilities and not due to financial privilege like abhi's daughter. Pragya managed to raise a daughter with no help at all and provide her with a roof over her head, education, food and a good upbringing, whilst abhi did none of that and only spoiled his daughter with his money but never took responsibility for her care and upbringing as he has other people do it for him. Pragya holds far more merit as a single mother than abhi does.

I actually hate it when in serials they show the custody going to the wealthier male lead and this has happened in shows I've watched, despite the female lead being able to provide for the child and being a good mother.

Originally posted by: poiu123

So what would she do? Leave both with Abhi? Or fight a custody battle with Abhi? Abhi being Rich and famous would win it. Which father agrees to a brain dead idea of separating a small baby from a mother.

Abhi and Pragya are both responsible for kiara s death and twins separation. Why should Pragya get the blame alone? Abhi was advancing towards Nikhil when asked not to and that’s why Nikhil slipped and fell.

she should have done what any mother does when she seperates from the father and the father is a good father but a bad husband, and that is to share custody with the father. naturally in this case, the kids stay with the mother but the father gets access. pragya isnt an unfit mother and should a custody battle arise she would never lose. whether the father is rich or not, unless the mother is unfit, universally kids are primarily brought up by the mother. as you can see from how rhea was brought up, a father isnt able to most of the time bring up a child without the help of a minder/family. abhi only agreed to it coz the alternative was her taking both of the babies away and out the city. if pragya was willing to have the kids seperated why would he argue considering the alternative is seeing neither of them at all, as her plan was to move as far away as possible. pragya is practical only when it comes to other ppl. the fact is abhi might have been an awful husband but he was faultless as a father.

the reason i blame pragya for kiaras death is coz of how she chose to go about with the plan. she went behind her husbands back to work with her x fake husband, who turned out to be of questionable character. the right thing to do would have been to put her point across to her husband, and work out a solution WITH him. it is literally common knowledge that when kidnappers get the money they get rid of the person theyve kidnapped, not hand them back after being able to identify the kidnappers, so abhi was right in not wanting to pay them off, theyd have only killed kiara and ran off with the cash (as was the case with the initial drop off, where the driver didnt know anything about the location that was meant to be exchanged)

ps. i dont think abhi is faultless, he was an awful husband and an awful father as a result of losing kiara and the other kid which probably made him overcompensate with rhea. i just dont think pragya is as great as shes portrayed. theyre both as bad as each other

Originally posted by: deefy89

she should have done what any mother does when she seperates from the father and the father is a good father but a bad husband, and that is to share custody with the father. naturally in this case, the kids stay with the mother but the father gets access. pragya isnt an unfit mother and should a custody battle arise she would never lose. whether the father is rich or not, unless the mother is unfit, universally kids are primarily brought up by the mother. as you can see from how rhea was brought up, a father isnt able to most of the time bring up a child without the help of a minder/family. abhi only agreed to it coz the alternative was her taking both of the babies away and out the city. if pragya was willing to have the kids seperated why would he argue considering the alternative is seeing neither of them at all, as her plan was to move as far away as possible. pragya is practical only when it comes to other ppl. the fact is abhi might have been an awful husband but he was faultless as a father.

the reason i blame pragya for kiaras death is coz of how she chose to go about with the plan. she went behind her husbands back to work with her x fake husband, who turned out to be of questionable character. the right thing to do would have been to put her point across to her husband, and work out a solution WITH him. it is literally common knowledge that when kidnappers get the money they get rid of the person theyve kidnapped, not hand them back after being able to identify the kidnappers, so abhi was right in not wanting to pay them off, theyd have only killed kiara and ran off with the cash (as was the case with the initial drop off, where the driver didnt know anything about the location that was meant to be exchanged)

ps. i dont think abhi is faultless, he was an awful husband and an awful father as a result of losing kiara and the other kid which probably made him overcompensate with rhea. i just dont think pragya is as great as shes portrayed. theyre both as bad as each other

@Bold- I agree that pragya and abhi should have gone for shared custody of the child but this is an indian serial we are talking about where custody battles are shown as the child only being able to be given full custody to one parent, and ITV, especially ekta shows never even talk about or suggest shared custody when such custody tracks happen, as if they have never even heard of shared custody. So if abhi and pragya did go for a custody battle, like usual shared custody would have never been brought up as an option and like usual the male lead would have been given the biggest upper hand and announced as the primary custodian simply because he is rich. It always happens in ITV as it is the only way writers seem to find to create max drama. The male and female lead behaving like matured parents/ couples by agreeing to shared custody would never bring the same drama that the typical tracks of the children being stripped of at least one child's love would get. A custody battle as usual would have been just another way to put pragya down in front of people for being middle class and not rich.

Originally posted by: sammy17

@Bold- I agree that pragya and abhi should have gone for shared custody of the child but this is an indian serial we are talking about where custody battles are shown as the child only being able to be given full custody to one parent, and ITV, especially ekta shows never even talk about or suggest shared custody when such custody tracks happen, as if they have never even heard of shared custody. So if abhi and pragya did go for a custody battle, like usual shared custody would have never been brought up as an option and like usual the male lead would have been given the biggest upper hand and announced as the primary custodian simply because he is rich. It always happens in ITV as it is the only way writers seem to find to create max drama. The male and female lead behaving like matured parents/ couples by agreeing to shared custody would never bring the same drama that the typical tracks of the children being stripped of at least one child's love would get. A custody battle as usual would have been just another way to put pragya down in front of people for being middle class and not rich.

I respectfully disagree. Being a teacher she earns more than enough to support children and it’s a universal rule -even in India- (which is quite backwards and a lot of fathers are campaigning to have the laws changed in their respective countries), that unless a mother is unfit (neglectful, addict etc) any minors go into her primary care. This is coz children, especially newborns are seen to need the mother more than the father when growing up.

But as you as it is an Indian serial, it doesn’t always make sense and a lot are done for “dramatic” value and to fill in episodes. Also the men in Indian serial are as you say always shown with the upper hand compared to women (something that annoys me but that’s another topic). I appreciate that the storyline is done for dramatic value, was just giving my opinion on the inconsistency in the character of pragya, but I also understand that she needed to something drastic to bring about the leap.

Love how we all have such different opinions and perspectives 😃 we literally see the same situation in so many different ways