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Posted: 7 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ShallowOpinions


Imagine without even having romantic scenes Adiya has surpassed all the couples in terms of chemistry. Alaas, wish the show had run for a couple of months. The craze for BO & Adiya/Jenshad is insane. It's on par with IB fandom which had a run of 3 years. In 8 months I really haven't seen this craze for any other ITV couple. It's unreal.


I think adiya are over hyped unnecessarily. The chemistry is good nothing special. Both of their chemistry with previous costars were amazing. Like Harshad Anupriya, Jennifer Guatam because there was chemistry between characters. Here in bepannaah aditya and zoya are most incompatible couple, writing is shoddy, there is no depth. That's why many can't connect. Starting 2 weeks were only awesome. After that show lost its essence. Concept was good but execution was pathetic. Fans only give importance to off screen shipping.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#62
Wish she comes back soon. 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Expectations from a sony tv show and a colors show are different.What matters the most for a colors or star plus or zee tv show are trp ratings.Keeping this in mind bepannaah isn't the most successful show.With sony,online fandom is enough and beyhadh had that.Acting wise too,jennifer got way more appreciation as maya(Rightfully so IMO),there are many who refer to her as the best actress of ITV.

I don't think bepannaah's popularity is comparable(yet) to ipkknd which after 5-6 years of its closure manages to be in top 5 in the trp chart of a south american country(peru) when bepannaah couldn't manage such trps in india itself(except for that one initial week)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saazhumsafars

Expectations from a sony tv show and a colors show are different.What matters the most for a colors or star plus or zee tv show are trp ratings.Keeping this in mind bepannaah isn't the most successful show.With sony,online fandom is enough and beyhadh had that.Acting wise too,jennifer got way more appreciation as maya(Rightfully so IMO),there are many who refer to her as the best actress of ITV.

I don't think bepannaah's popularity is comparable(yet) to ipkknd which after 5-6 years of its closure manages to be in top 5 in the trp chart of a south american country(peru) when bepannaah couldn't manage such trps in india itself(except for that one initial week)

See both bp and beyadh are completely different shows in terms of genre, characters... I dont understand what is the need to compare both these shows..
Regarding bepannaah popularity, i think you should have read raj baddhan tweet before making any comment..
Okay now let's come to trp point, dear when there would be changing of time slots for 3 times then how come anyone can expect trps but still bepannaah always managed its position in top 20...only when arshad track started trp fell and that arshad track was also channel idea but still makers tried maximum to keep the essence of bepannaah intact.. Then again when time slot changed to 10.30 bp trp was 1.8 but after one week bepannaah started to telecast at 10.50 so everyone switched bepannaah at the time when it was started. We didnot know trp were counted between 10.30-11.. And FYI bepannaah was always in top 10 in online ratings.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saazhumsafars

Expectations from a sony tv show and a colors show are different.What matters the most for a colors or star plus or zee tv show are trp ratings.Keeping this in mind bepannaah isn't the most successful show.With sony,online fandom is enough and beyhadh had that.Acting wise too,jennifer got way more appreciation as maya(Rightfully so IMO),there are many who refer to her as the best actress of ITV.

I don't think bepannaah's popularity is comparable(yet) to ipkknd which after 5-6 years of its closure manages to be in top 5 in the trp chart of a south american country(peru) when bepannaah couldn't manage such trps in india itself(except for that one initial week)


One can't measure the absolute success of show which aired at such gap. Because with this logic, KZK1 had TRP of 22 at one time & IPK in comparison had only 2.5-3. It was always less in comparison to other shows like Diya-Baati, Saathiya which were gaining double of it. But IPK1 gained international fame, but rest of the shows don't stand closer to that.

I have watched original run of IPK1 & BP both very diligently. Loved both shows immensely.

IPK1 in 2011-12 ran for 18 months complete (6 June 2011-30 Nov 2012). BP ran for 8.2 months only. IPK1 was more of romantic family drama. BP was less on that note. It was more of romantic thriller. The genres of two shows are completely different.

IPK1 aired on 8 PM for 18 months with no minute here & there. BP in 8 months saw some 10 time slot changes from 9, 9:10, 9:15, 9:20, 9:30, 10:30, 10:40, 10:45, 10:50.

Back then online presence of TV shows was not that much. Hotstar gained momentum after 2015. So, TV viewership of IPK1 on 8 PM slot was big since repeat telecasts were less & internet penetration was no where close to as it is now. Viewers of TV were more too.
BP ran simultaneously on TV, Voot & Jio Cinema. People no longer have to depend on TV for their shows, they can watch them anytime & anywhere as per their convenience. Internet penetration has almost tripled & become effective since IPK1. As long as show was on feasible time slot, people watched it on TV as well as online. But with 10:30 time slot, people began to watch it online. Voot was already established platform along with Jio Cinema. BP never faltered from online viewership. It has always been in top 5 most of the times.

Target audience of IPK1 & BP is almost the same but has distributed between TV & online over the years. IPK1 being watched by same audience on TV, BP being watched by same audience on TV as well as online.

Humsafar & Zindagi Gulzar Hai, Feriha aired in India after 4-5 years of their original ending & still became very popular here. The original run of the show in any country counts. In India, it was 2011-12, in other countries it will vary as per the dubbing. It became famous in Turkey in 2015. It is airing in Peru now & is famous there.
BP has just begun to go international. Foreign viewership it has gained is huge. In few years, it will also go dubbing in other languages to other countries. It is already ready to air in 2 countries now & already has a following in those countries.

So, as per shows of their respective ages, IPK1 & BP stand almost together with it's immediate popularity in India. Most of the audience who has watched IPK1 will easily say BP stood on the same level with the kind of popularity it gained among viewers in such short time. Both created same kind of rage with their leads. Raj Baddhan has been in this business for long & he himself admitted, I saw that kind of rage for a show last time during IPK1. No other show created such phenomenon like that. BP has content that will click with international audience way quickly just like Chinese, Korean & Turkish shows do. Romance still rules entertainment around the world in most of the places.

Online presence is the most significant difference between the times of IPK1 & BP.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: paradize12344


Harshad would not have done the role of Arjun. He was just like a supporting character. There was no scope to showcase acting talent which Harshad always finds in role. Beyhad was also disastrous flop. Its story was not either flawless. The character was only good. Also bepannaah ending trp >>>>>> beyhad opening trp. From starting
Bepannaah was continuously into top 20 before Arshad track started and 1 week during channa mereya sequence.So, I don't understand how beyhad was more successful.



Then again Beyhadh was a breath of fresh air. Drawing in elements from Gone Girl was a step in the right direction for indian tv. Granted the TRPs were low since it was on Sony Tv. But you gotta consider the longevity Beyhadh had compared to Bepannah. Beyhadh's ending was also justified, Bepannah storywise was extremely rushed. Regardless JW has a special place in her heart for both shows, but calling Beyhadh a "disastrous flop and saying it's story isn't "flawless is kind of a reach. 😲
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ZoyaNation18



Then again Beyhadh was a breath of fresh air. Drawing in elements from Gone Girl was a step in the right direction for indian tv. Granted the TRPs were low since it was on Sony Tv. But you gotta consider the longevity Beyhadh had compared to Bepannah. Beyhadh's ending was also justified, Bepannah storywise was extremely rushed. Regardless JW has a special place in her heart for both shows, but calling Beyhadh a "disastrous flop and saying it's story isn't "flawless is kind of a reach. 😲


I think no story ever shows on TV has been flawless. There are always some flaws here and there. Even hit shows like GOT have flaws and people talk about them but they never say those were disastrous flops.

Beyhadh was new in terms that it wasn't solely around a good girl being wronged and a typical cliched villain. It was about a villain named Maya on how her father was villain of her childhood and how she herself became a villain of her own life. There has not been any show on a villain on ITV. Villains here are used to create hurdles in lead couple of the show.
Beyhadh had a justified end, Maya's true closure was her death and not her life. But the fact that people could sympathize with her on some level makes Maya's character success. Normally people can't find ways to love a villain.
Maya was not just a casual villain. Cersei is hated with zeal but people still understand her. People want her dead in GOT and that's what makes a good villain when you hate them but you still understand them and their reasons. Maya was on the same level. People wanted her dead but still felt bad when she died at the end.
Even with Anjana, people hated her but still understood her.
If a villain's death makes you sad on any level, that means writers created a good villain.

Norman Bates is one such psycho villain just like Maya. His own mother led to his neurotic behavior but by the time she realized it, Norman had killed her already. You can't love Norman but you can symathize and understand why that guy turned out like that. Same goes with Maya. I can never love her but could understand her on some level.

BP was fast paced at some points and slowed at others especially in Arshad track. Beyhadh had a season format.

Beyhadh and BP were both shows with good content and a fresh one which is not usually seen on ITV. It would be really unfair to compare them on any level.

Maya was a good villain. Zoya was a good flawed character who admitted that she is flawed one can relate to on some level. Some women are as stupid as Zoya was shown but evolve over time.

As for low trp of beyhadh, Indian audience is still not ready for a villain like Maya and shows made on villain. Maya was a complex character. Even BP had complex characters. Every villain in BP could be understood. They weren't villain without reason. Their flaws brought a wrong side of the. AdiYa were equally flawed and you would hate and love at times.
Edited by arshi_asya - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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So true Arshi. The trp audience is not ready for an in-depth story like Bepannaah just like cinema audience found it hard to like the movie Tamasha.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: romancefan

So true Arshi. The trp audience is not ready for an in-depth story like Bepannaah just like cinema audience found it hard to like the movie Tamasha.


Not only tamasha, but guzaarish, ship of the theseus, masaan, fan, talaash and so many movies which had some really great content. They didn't click with audience because that required brainstorming. They were different and out of the box ideas.
Amir Khan himself said that a movie like inception or interstellar will never catch up in India because audience isn't ready for that level of content.

We are still stuck on romance And masala movies. There has been a positive change now But it will still take a lot of time.

We Indians don't value great story writing which comes once in a while.

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