Unnecessary abuse - Page 3

Originally posted by: FateBeChanged

i think that is quite an unfair comparison..in kyy manik was shown as a bully...it wasn't just nandini..he and his group fab 5 which had girls too bullied everyone that too to extreme..nandini was the first one who put a stop it..manik;s actions were never justified either...but after he changes after falling for nandini he never ever mishandled her or treated her badly!

thats why people fell for them..and smooching is normally what lovers do when they are together..cos mtv was not a gec channel..they showed the realistic portrayal of youngsters in love..unlike GEC shows where even married people take years to consummate their marriage..

i haven't seen the episode in discussion to comment on anurag's behaviour but manik and anurag can't be compared..manik had a troubled childhood and a devil for a mother but even so his monstrous ways was not justified in the show!

clearly you never saw the show to say ragging= care or something..tell me where exactly it was shown like that..matlab kuch bhi:)

Originally posted by: Anita666

So true why cant we have strong women in serials in reality seen so much a women can do and why always picture women as weaker sex ,hope they change story

Originally posted by: mp12

Agreed to both your posts.. manik's aggressiveness was NEVER shown as attractive to nandini EVER

In fact even after he became incredibly gentle towards her and stopped bullying anyone in general.. even then till the end his anger issues were never brushed under the carpet.. they always had nandini worry or disapprove of his anger.. however justified his anger was.. And he tried to work on his anger for her sake..

He'll.. the FL didn't even once SMILE at the ML for more than first 25 episodes..first time she ever did was when he showed a little vulnerability.. these gul or ekta shows.. even when they hate.. hero ne manhandled kiya nahin heroine starts getting affected by the eyelock..

Anyway I think we should just wait to see anurag.. it's still early to blow this out if proportion and call him abusive.. But I just want writers to be careful and CONSCIOUSLY avoid making anurag like other heroes.. he can show his anger w9thput touching her through his words

Originally posted by: jswati200988

As far as Manik is dere I would also lyk to present my pov..

Manik dint change for Nandini.actuallyy he was already gud but he dint show it the world..only Nandini could see dat gudness in him apart from fab5.The diff I cud make is he was rude at start bt lbt laTer he became polite ..Nandini misunderstood him as monester

bEing rude or tough does not make you bad person...

Manik was always gud at heart...

N Dhruv I think he was not bad but weak person...

Nandini dint lyk him dat way...Dhruv only helped her but never went to an extent which Manik cud do...Manik made her feel spcl..manik left his most important thing to save rishabh..he even dint care about fab5 when it came to nandu...

Dhruv could not do much for Nandini...

Weak person also becomes strong when it cums to luv

Dhruv dint take care Nandini when sumone spiked her drink...

Bt Manik did...he dint ask Nandini after muscina performance was spoiled bt Manik sent him to her...n many scenes

Originally posted by: FateBeChanged

i think that is quite an unfair comparison..in kyy manik was shown as a bully...it wasn't just nandini..he and his group fab 5 which had girls too bullied everyone that too to extreme..nandini was the first one who put a stop it..manik;s actions were never justified either...but after he changes after falling for nandini he never ever mishandled her or treated her badly!

thats why people fell for them..and smooching is normally what lovers do when they are together..cos mtv was not a gec channel..they showed the realistic portrayal of youngsters in love..unlike GEC shows where even married people take years to consummate their marriage..

i haven't seen the episode in discussion to comment on anurag's behaviour but manik and anurag can't be compared..manik had a troubled childhood and a devil for a mother but even so his monstrous ways was not justified in the show!

clearly you never saw the show to say ragging= care or something..tell me where exactly it was shown like that..matlab kuch bhi:)

Originally posted by: White..Magic

Offending viewers of KYY was not my intention, I made this comparison because that role was played by Parth as well. I have watched many Indian shows where they try to defend abusers giving excuse like he/she was abused at point of time. I will never understand this logic that "Abused has right to abuse others" who bhi unhe who are totally innocent. (Note- I am not saying that you are trying to justify or defend Manik's behavior, it was general observation)

Keeping everything related to Nandini aside, the way entire fab 5 clan bullied Navya was not even funny... I mean how could you lock someone in dustbin? That was totally insane... Such type of ragging would put anyone into depression.. And then Manik defended that ragging as something like care when Nandini asked, like Dhruv was always there around dustbin. If Someone dies because of Panic attack, dhruv will save him with super natural power????

. Entire fab 5 group was nothing more than a hypocrite, only their pain matters, rest should goto hell. They can dish it out but can't take it, they would make and circulate videos, but if someone dares to circulate their videos, all hell loose the break.

To be honest, there were many things which didn't go well with me, but still KYY season 1 was 100 times more entertaining than Kasauti, at least I was hooked and rewind it if I miss even 1 dialouge, but I'm watching kasauti on fast forward mode. Niti and Parth had chemistry and Manik's immense screen presence would bring life into dull scene as well but I caanot be defend them using even silly excuse. Fab 5 were just sadists.

Coming to kissing/smooching, not only tv shows, but kissing in films never made any sense except they use them as shock value to attract viewers, it never had any impact on chemistry or story. I don't think about it much as it's happening with consent of actors, never paid any attention to those scenes as they never had any impact on story... but in KYY they used to consider it as favorite timepass... matlab kahin bhi shuru ho jao.. talking about Dhruv and Aalia.😆 Even if they are not talking, still they would kiss. Kuchh bhi😆

Originally posted by: FateBeChanged

i was not going to reply again here cos discussing kyy in kzk form doesn't seem right..but i had to quote you here

though i still maintain that makers didn't try to whitewash manik's character to some extent but i won't agree with your saying that manik was only rude and impolite initially

fab 5 tortured shahid to the point of suicide till nandini and navya saved him..fab 5 didn't try to save or let nandini save rishabh while he was drowning..it was harshad who did...and they kept navya inside a dustbin the whole night..thats just rude behaviour?

manik's claim that they had a backup is lame to say the least..what if something had gone wrong? is it correct to play with someone's life? and forget abt physical..what about the mental torture they go through..sometimes people have mental breakdown because of ragging

i am sorry but you can't just say he was a good guy all along..he was only good to fab 5..otherwise all of them were criminals to put it mildly...if this was real life..they would have been behind bars or in some rehabilitation center

i agree Manik did a lot for nandini later on and most importantly stopped with the ragging..thats why i said he was redeemed ..even so saying he was only rude before is a gross understatement...