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Posted: 7 years ago
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Why is it so difficult to believe that Kunal's love for Nandini began to evolve once he saw her dancing in the rain? Most of the people in our previous generation got married only after seeing each other, or sometimes just each other's photographs, once. There are many people who fall in love at first sight. Are these also examples of lust? Or is lust only applicable when married individuals fall for someone other than their spouse? Now, what if Kunal wasn't married? Would that still count as love or would it still be lust? Would the signs from above still be mocked?

Now comes the question... Why did Kunal fall for Nandini when he was happily married to Mauli? But was he? Their marriage was unrealistically perfect, even for a reel couple. Maybe it was perfect for Mauli. But it wasn't for Kunal, even though he thought it was. He was so in awe of Mauli that he made her idea of a perfect marriage his. I always found him a little too happy and chirpy about everything when he was with Mauli. Also, he was over-the-top in declaring his love for her and did it all the time, which was kind of annoying, and also felt as if he was telling it to himself more than anyone else. He didn't share any common interests with Mauli. I'm married and I know for sure that if all I could talk to my husband was about love, our son, and finances, I'd go crazy. I believe that a marriage should have the right mix of similarity and differences. Kunal and Mauli were too different to be life partners. Yes, they were friends, which is why Kunal shared his biggest dream of opening a free clinic with her. But marriage is as much about day-to-day happenings and conversations as it is about big events. When Kunal met Nandini, he saw what he was missing out, and eventually realized that he was married to the wrong person. A homely saree-clad woman who cooks well and shares many of his interests is his lady love. This doesn't mean that he is against independent women, women who don't wear sarees, or women who can't cook. He always supported Mauli and he did so genuinely, but he also wanted someone who could spend more time with him and discuss common interests. He never complained about not getting all that, but it was there inside him, and without him realizing, Nandini entered in the form of everything that was missing from his life, and only then he knew it. Is it wrong for a woman to voluntary be a homemaker; isn't she as strong and significant as a salaried woman? And is it wrong for a man to fall for such a woman?

The manner in which the entire incident happened was ugly, but Kunal and Mauli would've parted ways eventually anyway, when Kunal would realize the truth of his marriage. Nandini coming into their lives was more like a catalyst. Why it had to happen this way is a question nobody can answer. Shit happens.

Coming back to the characters...

Kunal and Nandini are grey, and to me, are the most relatable ones. They're real people with genuinely good feelings, but bad timing. Everything is getting ugly, including Kunal's behavior towards Mauli. It's not right, I agree. KuNan are and will continue to pay the price for it, together or apart. But if their love triumphs and Mauli moves on happily with her life (and child), I think KuNan deserve to get their happiness too. All this shouldn't have been for nothing.

Rajdeep is black. The villain. He's pure evil. I have no opinion about the manner his character is portrayed.

Mauli is white. And so white, that it's unsettling. She has been put on this pedestal and almost all the viewers are worshipping her. Everyone can see the story only from her perspective - the perspective of the most unrealistic character in the show. I guess if she begins to have grey shades, the dwindling viewers will also stop watching the serial altogether.

I do not know the exact reason for this vast distinction between the way the main characters have been portrayed, but it has let me see a very disturbing truth about people in general. As long as characters remain 100 percent good or bad, they are acceptable. But grey characters are not, because people cannot digest the fact that a woman who falls in love with her friend's husband can sacrifice her love for that same friend. People cannot accept the fact that both these traits are equally real. They want to label the woman as bad, so any good she does is misinterpreted and twisted. She ends up becoming a worse person than a rapist. And this is something I have seen in real life too. Speaks a lot about the society we live in. That's why people prefer to stay in loveless marriages rather than breaking free and taking a second chance.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Please! Cut the hero worshipping and know that Kunal and Nandani are evil and selfish humans. It's disgusting how Nandani has not once felt disgusted at herself for jumping into bed with her best friends husband.
There's no reality in this show it's all BS and it should be shut down!
EMA is a very sensitive topic and it had a lot of potential to be explored in a decent manner. Continuously whitewashing Nandani is not the way to go about. EMA is real and the people that engage in these activities are pure evil and insensitive!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Forgive me,I read only the initial part of the post.
Kunal has not lost his family yet.His grandmother and mother are urging mauli to give her relationship with kunal one more chance(they haven't urged him half as much) and if kunal agrees they(grandmom and mom) will happily accept him back.We arent shown what they will do if he does not agree for reconciliation with mauli,may be they will ultimately accept him with nandini or they won't.If they won't it will be his own doing.
He should get to know about the child though as I think it would be better if the child had the love of both the parents.It is not necessary that kunal will turn out to be a lousy father just because he was a lousy husband.Let's see what happens,I can comment only after that.


What nandini went through for 7 years is unimaginable for me.She was abused in every way possible.It still does not justify that she betrayed(without much remorse) the friend who readily forgave her after she(nandini) had already wronged her once,welcomed her into her home and encouraged her at every step possible.Perhaps it happens that after going through so much trauma one becomes a bit conscienceless and selfish but the creatives haven't touched on that,some of us waited and waited but the creatives did not touch on many mental repurcussions of the trauma.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Oh I skimmed through the entire post.So I would like to say one more thing,falling for another person while you are married might not be wrong but pursuing and getting involved with that person (financially independent or homemaker)without much thought or remorse or respect for your spouse(financially independent or homemaker) is wrong.It is human,it could be also interesting to see EMA based shows if done properly but it is also wrong.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Adultry is treated as love and no God will approve it and both will go to hell. I volunteer in Domestic abuse sheltors in USA. we counsel woman not to get into relationship immediately give time and have female roomnae as they will attract the same person they left this is pychology. In that case kunal is as worse than Rajdeep.

Mauli should not tell Kunal she is pregent and leave him and raise kid by her own. the story should be like this Kunal and Nandini live togher and later Nandini will get paranod that if Kunal wil leave a good woman like Mauli it can happen to her.. and get pyscho like Arth movie..

In real life people like kunal can never be with one woman they will cheat Nandini too and then she will realize what she did to mauli

and mauli should rAISE HER KID AND BE HAPPY WITH OTHER MAN IN HER LIFE AFTERCOUPLE OF YEARS NOT IMMEDIELTY AS IT TAKES TIME FOR NORMAL WOMAN TO HEAL AND COUNSELOORS HERE IN usa EVEN TELL DIVORCE WOMAN NOT TO JUMP INTO RELATIOSHOP IMMEDITELTY

KUNAL SHOUD ROT IN HELL AND FEEL MISRABLE AND BECOME ALCHOLIC FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE TO MAULI.. THIS IS A REAL STORY THAT I KNW IT HAPPEN..

WOMAN LIKE MAULI IS VERY HAPPY WITH HER HUSBAND NOW AND RAISE HER KIDS HERSELF AND HER EX LIKE KUNAL IS ALCHOLIC AND CHEATED HIS MISTRESS LIKE NADINI AND NANDINI WILL NEVER BE HAPPY . THAT IS THE MORAL OF THE STORY

YOU WIL NEVER BE HAPPY DOING ADULTRY.. THIS I HAVE SEEN SO MANY CASE PEOPLE LIKE MAULI WILL FIND HAPPINESS LATER AND GOD WILL HEAL HER AND LATER SHE WILL KNOW

dOMESTIC ABUSE WILL NOT DO LIKE NANDINI DID..path to hell is many and path to righteouse is narrow.. I hope thye will show some morals not showing evil as love.. if they do I will stop seeing the show


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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can't be bothered repeating everything I've already said in this forum, and so I'll simply say that the stance I have maintained till now about my anti-kunan, anti-nandini, anti-kunal views still stand for good reason, as your defense for them ignores their nonchalant attitude of kunal-nandini towards their affair, and justifies nandini backstabbing her best friend and sleeping with another woman's husband despite herself having begged her evil husband in pain not to sleep with another woman, yet she doesn't find anything wrong in kunal cheating on his wife to sleep with her only because she isn't the one being cheated on and is receiving affection she didn't get from rajdeep... you're justifying this as something she shouldn't be judged for just because she's an abuse victim. As if being a victim of atrocity automatically makes you innocent of any other wrong you do. I also don't take any words of love kunal talks about seriously with good reason too.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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While your post is put forward really well, I disagree with some of the things you've said.

Kunal and Nandini are not worse than Rajdeep, I disagree with anyone who says this. I also however think that Kunal and Nandini are incredibly selfish.

Yes Nandini went through a lot in her life and she deserved happiness. That however is no excuse for her to have a relationship with her best friend's husband. Like you say though, you can't control who you fall for, so yes I can fully understand her falling in love with Kunal. Falling in love with someone and having sexual relationships are completely different things. If Kunal and Nandini had any love or respect for Mauli, Nandini would have waited for Kunal to tell Mauli the truth, and Kunal should have waited until he was separated from Mauli before he started a relationship with someone else. Neither cared about Mauli and acted like lovestruck teenagers who couldn't control their sexual desires.

Nandini should have thought about the best friend who saved her from her abusive husband. But not once did we really see Nandini even feel fully guilty about betraying Mauli, the main focus was on how her love is right. And Nandini sacrificing her love? After having sex with Kunal, watching her best friend break down several times over, after being asked to leave Kunal, then she decided to let go of Kunal. The woman didn't do it because she really cared, at least it didn't feel like that to me, she seemed to do it out of guilt rather than love for her best friend. Nandini, easily forgot her relationship with Mauli to build one with Kunal. To add insult to injury, she genuinely seemed to believe she could still be part of Mauli's life.

As for Kunal, I don't know what he really has in common with Nandini. All Kunal seems to do is run after Nandini. Fair enough he fell out of love, but it doesn't mean that he should treat Mauli with such disrespect, and he could've ended things with dignity, but he treated her like crap. Kunal is also a coward, he couldn't even end things with Mauli, she kicked him out. I had no hopes from Kunal, he just swung from one woman to the other, so I don't really care about him.

As for Mauli, she is too white, that's true. She needs to show a bit more fight.

I don't care about Kunal and Nandini suffering. I care that they apparently have no feelings for this one woman that they both proclaimed to love so much. I find these characters completely unrealistic. Even in real life those who cheat are more remorseful. Here, they seem to be blind to their faults and only see the good in each other. Take for example how Nandini only praises Kunal for helping her and loving her, conveniently forgetting everything Mauli has done for her. And then we have Kunal praising Nandini in front of Mauli for arranging a party for Mauli, I mean come on, how stupid is that. Did Kunal really expect Mauli to be grateful?
Edited by Khushi.... - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Last line is mocking in nature.

Now, coming to a line about woman who fell for her friend's partner sacrificing him for the same friend, it's not a sacrifice when things have gone too far. Everything has a right time, even sacrifice has a right time. Right time for Nandini was when she was leaving the city at that time when she had just found that her feelings for Kunal won't let her live near him.
This time sacrificing doesn't make sense when she has not done the closure. Just asking the person to go & never call again isn't a closure. Immature people do that. Mature people despite terrible pain, break up with a lot of consideration & talk. If Nandini had to be shown strong then that is the route makers should have gone. Her leaving abruptly will just madden Kunal all the more. So, no, this wasn't a sacrifice. It's not a sacrifice if you left him with some kind of hope to linger on.
I can give you countless examples of people actually sacrificing their own love for the betterment of other person.

I don't know why do people feel, Mauli is unrealistic character, when in reality she happens to be very real character. I have seen women like Mauli in my own family very closely. They are real.
If Kunal & Nandini are real & grey, then Mauli too is very much real.
In fact when it comes to brutality, Rajdeep too is real since I have heard real cases where one can't even imagine the evil, a human being is capable of doing. (Just recently, a woman murdered her husband, burnt her face with acid & destroyed his body, then she went on to give her husband's face to her boyfriend with whom she was having an affair through plastic surgery. This is a case reported from Tamil Nadu quite some time ago). And there are countless example that will leave one shocked beyond imagination.


And yes, when couple don't have communication about gravest of issues & go on pretending that they are like normal couple, then it is likely to be perceived very differently.
Nandini was an abuse victim, she was raped when she was in relationship with Kunal & still Kunal-Nandini never even tried to talk about it. Kunal never even dared to understand Nandini beyond her looks & cooking skills. Nandini never tries to talk to Kunal about their situation, about a wife at home even when she knows or about the future.

It's absurd to compare Kunal-Nandini with our parents, who liked their spouse with the picture and not fall in love immediately. Falling in love was a journey for them which took time unlike here, where a Baba prediction makes Nandini fall for Kunal so hard. You can call it modern love & spare the old ways of falling in love from comparison. Our parents were not in love with someone else already when they took to liking pictures (most of them had arranged marriages). They has clear minds, saw the picture & took to the liking. Kunal was perfectly in love with Mauli till the rain dance & it was only when he had encounter with Manas, he knew he had infact fallen for Nandini, until then he had guilt of having those thoughts.

Marriage doesn't fall in a day, it takes a lot of emotional cheating for it to fall down. If Kunal was sincere about his marriage, then he would have out more efforts, but he didn't. It's easy for him to say, I fell out of love just like that & fell for other person, but imagine it on other person who is still not there at any level. It's cheating even when it is happening in relationships other than marriage. Kunal didn't mutually break up with Mauli or himself reveal it to her, Mauli caught him red-handed cheating in open space.

Kunal fell in love in that moment, it didn't evolve after the dance. It began precisely at that moment. It was this moment which marked emotional cheating on his part. And from here, there was no turning back.

If Mauli-Kunal marriage was unrealistic, then KuNan is way more unrealistic, since they don't have any emotional bases to their relationship. They didn't have emotional bond, it was all physical as they showed it. And they took it from emotional cheating to physical cheating so soon without even having any introspection. Even in boldest of EMA stories, introspection is there of the actions, guilt is there when facing the spouse on part of sensible people who realize they are cheating. Only insensitive people wouldn't show any such fight of emotions in such situations.

If Kunal-Mauli never talked about their differences, then even KuNan never talked about their differences, hell, they didn't even talk about dark things that each of them brought in the relationship.
Atleast Kunal-Mauli talked about differences in the beginning, while all KuNan do is talk lovey-dovey & talk about kheer & saree.
If Kunal had to assure Mauli, then he still has to assure Nandini, infact he has to assure Nandini way more than Mauli. It's for a fact from the show.

Mere rejection of Nandini without any reason made Kunal so mad & he did his best to try to make it right with her with video message, phone calls, visiting her home again & again, date, even though this relationship is merely a 1.5 month old. Now imagine, Mauli who has been married to this guy for 7 years, is expecting his child & this guy just informs her that the marriage is over, without even giving answer to her WHY?
Kunal too asked WHY from Nandini? Mauli too asked WHY from Kunal?
And none of them got answer to that which left them in such a mess within themselves.

Kunal still can't answer what went wrong in his marriage. Now can he? If he knew why he was going after Nandini, he would have known answer to this question.

Truth is Kunal himself doesn't know why he fell for Nandini at this point. Nandini knows why she loves Kunal because he happened to be a man who treats her with respect, but Kunal still doesn't know why exactly did he fall for her or why is so hell bent on rebelling. He just knows that he wants to live with Nandini because he thinks he loves her even when he doesn't know why exactly?
Kunal's inability to answer WHY? has left Mauli in hanging, since she isn't able to figure out what went wrong, when & why? This is a very haunting question for anyone who put their mind and soul to a relationship. And until they figure out answer to this question, they can't move on & live in peace.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Its the total lack of guilt, remorse or even a smattering of acknowledgment of the betrayal to a true friend that makes Nandini beyond gray. So she apoears cunning/canniving rather than someone who truly struggled with her feelings. She come across as someone lacking basic human sensitivity.

Call it a showdy script or poor acting but thats what was portrayed.

Edited by kukuraja - 7 years ago
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As much as the concept of EMA is a sensitive one it's a real one. It happens more often than we would like I imagine. More than anything my problem is with the utter lack of respect that both Kunal and nandini have for mauli. She has been patient, understanding and dignified. And they have been the opposite. They are acting like sex crazed teenagers who cannot even wait for an official divorce to move on. The way nandini forced her participation into the bday party is ridiculous! Just stay the f**k away and wait for Kunal to divorce her...how hard is that?! And Kunal...I have no words for him. First she finds out about the affair seeing you both locked in an embrace, she's put up a dignified front, saved you and your family further humiliation...and you have the audacity to drag her and blame her. Isn't he the least bit rational...ok he's upset that she's trying to make things work when things have gone beyond repair...ok sit her down and calmly explain the situation. What gives him the right to insult her and hold her accountable?! It's not her problem if nandini is a weak damsel in distress...n if she had left just because mauli said a few words then that's not maulis problem. After everything she went through she can atleast show her hurt . It's not a sacrifice if nandini left after hearing that...it means that she wanted to clear her head and re-evaluate her choices in life .if she went away means her guilt overpowered her so-called love for Kunal and if she came back then they can be together eventually. Nothing about the situation puts in her any mortal peril. Nothing that justifies Kunal yelling at mauli with no shame.
However none of that actually happened as we know from olvs. afterr finding out the truth about rajdeep kidnapping her also he has the audacity to drag mauli and talk to her in a tone that reeks utter disrespect, that too in front of nandini!
How much will he humiliate mauli and why? Ok you fell out of love, you love nandini, you cheated your wife and you want to move on...fine. But can't you for one second see the pain you are putting her through. In a moment of weakness if she says she wants things to work or begs your mistress to give her husband back imagine how much she still loves you. Instead of yelling, he should deal with it maturely. You don't love her, but she loves you, she has for fhe last 7 years of her life. And the least you can do is to treat what little is left of your relationship with somedignity
Kunal knows how much pressure is being put in mauli by his family, her mother and "other good samaritan s" to make her marriage work. He knows everything and still he's putting her through more hurt and humiliation. This is the woman you used to love, you were married to her for 7 years...isthere no humanity also left ?!
On top of everything mauli is now pregnant...my sympathies only lie with her. She's done everything right and she's accepted everything that's happened. But this humiliation and salt on her wounds is unwarranted and inexcusable.

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