Originally posted by: slippery_chilka
Ah, that's true. Maybe Ruby chose to become Dayan after her graduation. There maybe an age where the female has to chose what she wants to be. Human or Dayan.The irony part. That is the sad truth isn't it? Even now with show people tend to get attracted, root for and defend the evil creatures more, while they find the protagonists boring and dull. What an era.I have noticed that..maybe Davansh have a harder time controlling their evil side than females do.___________(OK, the quote is messed up.😕 My answer from here)I believe humans are the most dangerous creatures that walk/ed the earth. I agree that humans are evil for killing for food but we are trying to change and more and more people are turning vegan. But comparison with humans donot make Daayans right, Rein. Just because I slapped someone and you joined in doesn't make you any less wrong. A wrong is a wrong. Do you get it? We both did wrong. So just because humans kill for food doesn't mean what Mohana and Ruby are doing is right or fair. They are still evil and antagonists of the story.I agree that both of us are wrong here, no one is more or less wrong than the other person when what we do is pretty much the same thing, and i never said what they are doing is right, all I am saying is they have their own reason for doing whatever they do. Moreover like you mentioned people are turning vegan and joining the vegan movement however there are also people who equally and passionately oppose it, which is why I say there are good and bad elements in every community. Ved herself is an example in this case if she doesn't turn out to be negative character as per my speculated guesswork. What i'm trying to point at is when we dont judge or incriminate humans for killing and eating defenceless animals and just plain accept them or ignore them for their choices why are we doing something different in case of daayans when they do the exact same thing to humans?You may not think the lineage reason maybe why Ved didn't have children. It may or may not be, until the reason is shown, you can't dismiss it just because you don't think that can be the reason. We will just have to wait and see. You asked why Ved may not have had children of her own and I gave you a reason.
Fair enoughI respect but don't agree with your POV over Ved raising Ansh and Kajal as her own and teaching them their sanskaar. She didnot snatch them but took them in when Mridul died and Mohana got imprisoned.I dont think she could have taken her children when they were still new borns given that they lived separately, moreover since Mo is a pretty powerful daayan if not the most powerful Ved getting her hands on the children would have been very difficult without the help of the Rathore family and Divya who cut off her choti rendering Mo powerless. My take is she was probably just waiting for the right moment to corner Mo.From what I understand she only took actions and ousted Mohana when Mohana killed Mridul and his mom. As long as everyone in the family had been safe, Ved wouldnot have ousted Mohana. Also, she has double the right to raise them as her own. One as Mohana's sister and one as Ansh and Kajal's aunt from Mridul's side. Also, Ansh and Kajal were protected from evil influence because Mohana was imprisoned. If Ved had had children, how would she have protected her children from Mohana? It would have been impossible.I do agree that Mohana seems to genuinely care for and love her children after the extension. Same with Ved, she is her little sister and I am sure she has some genuine affection for her even if it's mixed with anger. Which intrigues me and I can't wait to see her side of the story. But I do think Ved's hatred has to do with Mohana harming her family and nothing else because she seems to have tolerated/maybe even loved her as a sister before Mridul and his mom were killed by Mohana.BTW people Ved is not a Daayan. That is 100% obvious. As shown in the show, Dayans can't touch/bear anything holy without their Dayan side coming out.
I agree that both of us are wrong here, no one is more or less wrong than the other person when what we do is pretty much the same thing, and i never said what they are doing is right, all I am saying is they have their own reason for doing whatever they do. Moreover like you mentioned people are turning vegan and joining the vegan movement however there are also people who equally and passionately oppose it, which is why I say there are good and bad elements in every community. Ved herself is an example in this case if she doesn't turn out to be negative character as per my speculated guesswork. What i'm trying to point at is when we dont judge or incriminate humans for killing and eating defenceless animals and just plain accept them or ignore them for their choices why are we doing something different in case of daayans when they do the exact same thing to humans?I dont think she could have taken her children when they were still new borns given that they lived separately, moreover since Mo is a pretty powerful daayan if not the most powerful Ved getting her hands on the children would have been very difficult without the help of the Rathore family and Divya who cut off her choti rendering Mo powerless. My take is she was probably just waiting for the right moment to corner Mo.
Originally posted by: slippery_chilka
This is where you are wrong, humans are being judged for eating animals and incriminated for killing them for sports now.1) People who hunt for sport are being shamed and ostracised and even put in jail. A murder is murder and an assault is an assault no matter who is doing it. Plus the show itself is screaming out that Daayans are evil and the antagonists. 2) Also are you saying that we should accept and ignore Daayans killing just because some humans are doing the same thing?@Bold 1 They are only shamed and imprisoned right? Why aren't they given a death penalty and punished in the same manner for hurting animals as a sport? And coming to eating animals, I am a non vegetarian myself, so basically I am no different from a daayan if we take that into consideration now right? So people should judge me and incriminate me too but is anyone really doing that, or do you think i'd let anyone decide for me over what i'm supposed to consume for a diet? Even if they did judge am i really supposed to care? Well for a fact I don't because I at the end of the day am not a perfect person and have my own flaws which in one or more ways define me whether people like it or hate it.@bold 2 I am not saying that you should accept or ignore them killing all that I am trying to say is humans have also done the same things and just like how the entire human race doesn't consist of good people alone or vice versa, similarly it isn't necessary that all the daayans have to be murderers or born killers since some people here mentioned that they too can choose a path besides killing or consuming human lives.Oh come on, Mohana became more powerful as she aged. If Ved coveted the children striking way before by ousting her would have been better. Mohana wouldn't have seen it coming; but here, with the 2 deaths she was alert and ready to fight that's why it was so hard to corner her and cut off her braid.The simple logic is that Ved let her be as long as her family members were safe. The minute Mohana killed members of her family, all bets were off.You know Mo killing the family members for now is still something that Ved had assumed back then, we dont really know or be 100 percent sure if she really were the one that killed Mridul and the MIL. if Mo herself admits to the murders then and there is unfettered evidence that she is the one behind it then I wont bother giving her any benefit of doubt. Also If what you say about Mo getting powerful as she ages then she was already around some 200 plus years old now wasn't she?
@Bold 1 They are only shamed and imprisoned right? Why aren't they given a death penalty and punished in the same manner for hurting animals as a sport? And coming to eating animals, I am a non vegetarian myself, so basically I am no different from a daayan if we take that into consideration now right? So people should judge me and incriminate me too but is anyone really doing that, or do you think i'd let anyone decide for me over what i'm supposed to consume for a diet? Even if they did judge am i really supposed to care? Well for a fact I don't because I at the end of the day am not a perfect person and have my own flaws which in one or more ways define me whether people like it or hate it.@bold 2 I am not saying that you should accept or ignore them killing all that I am trying to say is humans have also done the same things and just like how the entire human race doesn't consist of good people alone or vice versa, similarly it isn't necessary that all the daayans have to be murderers or born killers since some people here mentioned that they too can choose a path besides killing or consuming human lives.You know Mo killing the family members for now is still something that Ved had assumed back then, we dont really know or be 100 percent sure if she really were the one that killed Mridul and the MIL. if Mo herself admits to the murders then and there is unfettered evidence that she is the one behind it then I wont bother giving her any benefit of doubt. Also If what you say about Mo getting powerful as she ages then she was already around some 200 plus years old now wasn't she?
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