ties that bind - understanding anjana and waseem

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Posted: 7 years ago
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in other dramas, the reasons a couple can't be together are often class, status etc. here, the reason they can't be together is the ties that bind them. for better or worse, the two families are now linked and they went through all the problems caused by pooja-yash affair & accident together. so there is a connection between the two families. the tie that binds them is that past and that gets different reactions from the members.

for aditya and zoya, the past can never be undone and they are the only two people who knew what it felt like to be betrayed. so there is a deep connection that is now friendship and comfort because they were the only person who they could talk to at that time. now, that they have moved past that, the friendship instead of ending is blossoming even more and becoming deeper. so rather than breaking them down, the ties bind them even closer.

for arjun and noor (can we have more scenes of them please?), there is a connection where he saved her and so she knows that this is a guy she can trust 100%. also they understand each other's situation very well. when zoya was jailed and noor had no idea who to talk to, she called up her coffee nawaz and even though he couldn't directly address that he knew what was going on, his voice was of great comfort to her and likewise to him. so they know what it is like to see their sibling suffer, to not be able to do anything, to try control their crazy parents from overreaction.. they get it. so again, the ties bind them closer together.

for the parents, they all see it as bad luck and would like to cut the ties so that they are not reminded of the past. waseem is not that a fool and understands that any connections with the hoodas will bring its own dose of troubles and does not want to go through those kind of problems again. it was his daughter who ended up getting kidnapped by rajeev. and he wants her to move on.

my guess would be that arshad is either a divorcee or someone with a painful past and so waseem hopes that they would be able to make a connection. waseem is also hoping for a family from his own community so that his daughter is not rejected a second time by her in-laws. waseem has always understood and accepted zoya's limitations and worried for her, tired to bulldoze his way to try protect her. so he will not want any connection to hoodas because for him the ties that bind the two families is a painful chapter and he would rather not have his daughter reminded of the past. a fresh star would be better for her no? -- that would be his thinking...

for anjana, zoya represents a painful past twice. anjana herself was cheated on and abandoned for a short while. but she took her husband back and her son didn't forgive or understand her. she had to keep the pain in her heart like a stone but never addressed the affair directly. she didn't want to ask the painful questions.

what she doesn't understand is that people react differently to similar situations. aditya is very different from her. he wanted to know what happened. he wanted his questions answered and was going crazy -- so his borderline obsession with zoya in the first half of the drama. he wasn't at rest. now, that he found the answers, part of him has died and anjana is furious at what sakshi did to her son. part of her also blames zoya for it as a kind of naive thinking -- if this girl hadn't been there, then maybe her son would have just moved on. what she doesn't understand is that aditya was never that type -- he would have chased zoya to musoorie to find his answers if he had to.

zoya is also different from anjana in that she has faced her past and moved on. in that sense, it is also a sort of painful reminder for anjana in how some women move on while others are stuck there. zoya is a reminder of that painful tie to pooja and yash and that is something anjana would never want for her son aditya. she couldn't face her own past and why would she want her son to do so? so even if she wasn't the psycho vamp, she would oppose their love story because she wouldn't want her son to be hurt and also not to be hurt herself.

for papa hooda, the ties that bind are shameful. with zoya and noor in the family, all these gossipy people are forever going to comment on the affair and the stuff that happened. same goes for wasim and his wife. why would the two families want to be reminded of the past?

so the pooja - yash bit will definitely play into creating conflicts for the two love jodis and it will be interesting to watch. will we get more flashbacks or clarity into whether it was just an accident or murder? even without all that, just the emotional baggage is enough to create all sorts of drama...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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amzing post
Each and Everyone Person in Their POVs I love how who brought it out
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you
But for me Anjana is ok to hate Zoya or refusing Zoya to be in her son's life

But she went farther to kidnap and almost confesses murder so they portrays her as a mad possessive mother

About Wasim
I want to add one point

When Aditya saved Zoya many times Wasim wasn't there
He came to Mumbai and know Adi when the problems between Adya get bigger

Aditya was responsible for Adya to escape from police and he put Zoya life in danger by that

Rajveer is Hood's enemy and he hurt Zoya tried to kill her just because of Aditya

After the court track Zoya wanted to reopen the case and she faced Aditya again
Aditya wanted to kick Zoya from her house and he pushed her out in her house
Papa Hooda filled a case against his friend's wife and wanted to put her in jail and destroy her career

What I want to say that Wasim only experienced the dark side from Aditya and the Hoodas

He has all the right to keep his daughter away from this family to protect her

Zoya should talk to her father
She should tell him how many times Aditya helped her and supported her
She should show him the bright side of Aditya not only the dark side of him
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@hend_refai ~ it is actually kind of fun that they made anjana into this psycho vamp because now we have a good villain who we can't predict. hahahah.. but that said, if we take away the kidnapping, then we can understand where she is coming from and why she won't be happy with these two jodis. but the kidnapping and madness now adds another level to the conflicts...

as for waseem, a lot has to happen for him to see aditya as just aditya rather than aditya hooda, husband of pooja etc. there is so much bad history created within a short period of time that even if zoya defended or tried to show how aditya was good, it wouldn't matter. waseem went through his own journey through this mess and so his perspective will be filtered through that experience. so rather than zoya telling him, he needs to have his own experience and interactions with aditya to re-frame his opinions.

as a family it is possible for us to all go through the same event in a very different way and be shaped by it in very different ways.

@sh_aroshi - thanks! :)
Edited by mango_pudding1 - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@hend_refai ~ it is actually kind of fun that they made anjana into this psycho vamp because now we have a good villain who we can't predict. hahahah.. but that said, if we take away the kidnapping, then we can understand where she is coming from and why she won't be happy with these two jodis. but the kidnapping and madness now adds another level to the conflicts...

as for waseem, a lot has to happen for him to see aditya as just aditya rather than aditya hooda, husband of pooja etc. there is so much bad history created within a short period of time that even if zoya defended or tried to show how aditya was good, it wouldn't matter. waseem went through his own journey through this mess and so his perspective will be filtered through that experience. so rather than zoya telling him, he needs to have his own experience and interactions with aditya to re-frame his opinions.

as a family it is possible for us to all go through the same event in a very different way and be shaped by it in very different ways.

@sh_aroshi - thanks! :)


You are right
But what I wanted to say that Wasim if know Aditya better and how much Aditya is good for his daughter he will be happy for their marriage and he will support them

We saw before the six months leap that Wasim didn't want to stay in Mumbai he wanted to return to Massori but when he knew this is what his daughter wants he stayed and supported her

even when Zoya wanted to reopen the case he refused at first but them he supported his daughter choice even if he doesn't agree with her

If he know and sure that Aditya deserves his daughter he will accept him even if he doesn't like him in person

He is so protective father not possessive one
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wonderful analysis! 👏

One bad decision of PooSh and 2 families are still suffering the consequences. Woh dono narak mein sad rahe honge, in logo ka bhi life narak bana diya. 😆

I can understand everybody's viewpoint now.

I agree for Waseem, Aditya is the reminder of Zoya's painful past and for the senior Hoodas, Zoya is the reminder of Aditya's painful past and therefore they would never want their children to have any relationship with those reminders, not even friendship.

I agree the Siddiquis and Hoodas do not know the dynamics of AdiYa relationship. They only saw what they saw, they saw how AdiYa created trouble for each other but they didn't see how in spite of landing each other in trouble in different occasions, AdiYa also helped and supported each other because of that same painful past. This same painful past turned out to be a boon too for AdiYa because this is what connected them and they changed each other and made each other a better person.

Waseem has seen Adi bringing trouble in Zoya's life but I am surprised how did he so easily forget that this same Aditya also saved Zoya's life when Rajveer almost drowned her in the water tank?

Waseem's intention of getting Zoya married is not wrong. After all, he is doing it for her good but I am not liking it is the way he is forcing her to accept the proposal. He can make her sit and pyaar se samjhaofy too but instead he has put the condition that she has to marry a guy of his choice and then only she can work with the Hoodas. This is what spoiled Waseem's character for me. There are some rumors going around that Arshad is another imposter who wants to marry Zoya for her company. If this rumor turns out to be true then again Waseem's good intentions will be ruined because he will be shown as a father who was so desperate to throw Adi out of Zoya's life that he was about to ruin his own daughter's life due to a decision taken in haste. Waseem was always against Yash because he thought Yash is not worthy of his daughter and he was proved right. Now if this Arshad indeed turns out to be a fraud then Waseem's character will be spoiled.

Anjana has seen worst things than Zoya in her life. Her life has been nothing but hell. First her husband cheated on her, left her with 2 kids and went away to enjoy with his mistress. She had to take the responsibility of 2 kids as well as bear the humiliations due to Harsh's action. Then she had to accept Harsh back again for the sake of her 2 kids. The elder kid doesn't understand her, starts hating her and gives her place in his life to his best friend's mother.

I guess Anjana was in clinical depression all these years and she didn't get herself treated and now that same depression has turned into a huge psychological disorder where she tries to hurt people who she thinks will come between her and her son. Today she has got everything but still she is not happy because of the years of loneliness and insecurity and her depression.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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amazing post👏
all the reasoning is on point and makes sense
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Posted: 7 years ago
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thanks @tulips. :)

like @hend_rafai, I see waseem as a protective father rather than a possessive or autocratic father. there has always been freedom for zoya to disagree with him and to make her own decisions. he never liked yash either or came to her marriage but she was free to come to his house, eat even if he was making sarcastic comments.

when yash had the accident, they ran to the hospital and they ran to mumbai without a second thought. they have left their home and lives in mussoorie just for zoya.

so it is a tension-filled relationship as waseem would like a daughter who is more dutiful but also accepts that she is quite stubborn in her own way and will make her own decisions even if he dislikes. he also understands her limitations and wants to protect her as much as he can. in many ways, zoya is more like him while noor is more like her mother the peacemaker. so noor and the mom get stuck in between the father-daughter fights.

while it would have been nice if he didn't try to bulldoze her into seeing arshad, he is in a way trying to protect her from herself because her last choice was disastrous. she has to regain that trust that she is capable of choosing a good man. while he is full of admiration for his daughter in how she has conducted the business and turned it around, when it comes to her personal life, he is yet to see the changes. he still sees the old zoya who runs with her heart into danger without listening and he is left to shake his head and wait with worry.

wouldn't say that waseem is not thankful to aditya for saving zoya's life from rajeev but more like cautious of the danger ahead. he is perceptive that a connection with hoodas will bring troubles and so wants to steer clear..

we need to have a situation where aditya and waseem both interact as men and understand each other as people. then waseem will accept aditya for who he is even if he doesn't quite like him. waseem needs to see aditya as a man that he can trust and understand why zoya would feel drawn to him.

one thing I like about aditya's character is how he is a man's man. this is not a boy who goes along with whatever his parents say and is not someone who can be manipulated by anyone. he feels what he feels and he goes by that. he makes his own decisions and speaks his mind. waseem would appreciate that because in many ways, he is also exactly like that. also, aditya also likes to also make sarcastic comments just like waseem. it is why zoya is able to quickly respond to aditya's lines because she has had a lifetime of doing it with waseem...

also, just like waseem, aditya despised yash for the very same attributes... so in many ways, these two men are of the same mould. if aditya had a daughter, he would probably be just a pain as waseem! 😆

and yea, I agree with you, Anjana has probably been depressed for a long time. she definitely has repressed her emotions so much that she keeps having these outbursts in stressful situations and is not able to control herself. even papa hooda or arjun is not able to voice reason..

thanks @maryam2 :)
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Posted: 7 years ago
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U write so beautifully .. Beautifully pen down thoughts . your analysis is awesome ..⭐️😊⭐️
Cant write as beautifully as u but giving it a try !!

Coming to Waseem - he wants to protect her daughter and wants to get her married which is absolutely valid .. the thing is zoya already left her parents once for Yash and somewhere with no much fault of hers it ended up being a wrong decision by her .. so i strongly feel that if waseem wants to take certain decisions , it is just fine... i mean as a parent i feel he deserves that chance and can move ahead with that decision coz long termly it beneficial for zoya ..

The problem with waseem is that he has made a very strong opinion of Aditya just coz he is Harsh's son which again i feel it is not wrong .. as a father it is understandable as a father he wants to protect her daughter as previously he couldnot in a way ..But he is not aware of how Aditya has been to Zoya which has been very supportive and with respect .. so based on what he saw his hesitation is ok ...

Anajana - till the time she was shady i could relate to her .. somewhere i felt bad for her .. the way Aditya and Papa Hooda behaved with her did not feel right .. Her son not talking to her for a long time and Harsh's EMA and then so many other secrets which are still not out made her today what she is !!
She not liking Zoya was ok as whenever Zoya came to Hooda mansion be it when she entered with divorce papers , zoya breaking the wine glass , fake marriage , police coming and they running away ..according to her vision all in a way has put Aditya in trouble .. But again like waseem she doesnot understand how zoya has only been supportive and kind to her son ..

But now all gone ..makers made her black and there is no redemption to same ..

whatever u expressed and wrote just amazing !! i get ur analysis with each character ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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thanks @mans1234 :)

obviously would like both our jodis together but for once, can understand the motivation of the parents. sometimes, in other dramas, you just roll your eyes because their opposition makes no sense.

what I like about bepannah is that when you take a step back, the parents' perspective is also okay. their characters have been well developed and so we get their motivations. it is easier to see that parents are also just human. we can have very different experiences even on a same journey and parents are also entitled to have their own opinions and they are also bound to make mistakes.

a realistic parent-adult child relationship is bound to have conflicts because the child is an adult and so there is bound to be a push and pull. the parent has to realize the child is an adult and the child has to realize that the parent is also an individual. if the parent and child can get beyond that push-pull, then the relationship gets stronger. if it doesn't, they strain and sometimes break... in that way, bepannah is showing the modern adult parent-child relationships and conflicts well..

like you said, there is probably no way to redeem anjana now with the kidnapping. maybe in the end, she ends up in some mental hospital and they declare that it was all a result of clinical depression and her having a breakdown? -- that could be one way to redeem her if the writers want it that way...

Edited by mango_pudding1 - 7 years ago

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