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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

What emotional blackmailing?


Laachi believes, however wrongly, that Sumer was innocent. She defends Puru against the Dasyus because she believes that was the right and just thing to do. Not just because he is her husband.

Similarly, she now sees logic and justice in what her mother says. That their faith in Sumer's innocence is misplaced is irrelevant. All that is relevant is what they both believe

So Laachi is now going to demand that as the king, Puru too metes out justice, as she sees it, in the killing of her brother. Where does emotional blackmailing come in here?

If Anusuya had been deft enough to wound Sumer and halt him in his tracks, instead of killing him, things would have worked out far better. For her to now expect that Laachi and her family will accept what she asserts about Sumer being a traitor is illogical. Or even that they will believe whatever proof that can be eventually unearthed.

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes, my dear boy, I know that. But I cannot tolerate the idea of my Alexander becoming a sadist. Killing an enemy is one thing. Exulting at the idea of killing him in such a horrible manner is something far, far worse.

The CVs have throughout been trying to demonize Alexander in contrast to their lily-white Porus, and this is the coping stone in that structure of deliberate distortion

I hate it.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: luckySnow

Dont worry aunty Chankya will run away 😆o abhi tak Alexander se koi paap hua Nahin hai 😆.

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, my dear boy, I know that. But I cannot tolerate the idea of my Alexander becoming a sadist. Killing an enemy is one thing. Exulting at the idea of killing him in such a horrible manner is something far, far worse.


The CVs have throughout been trying to demonize Alexander in contrast to their lily-white Porus, and this is the coping stone in that structure of deliberate distortion

I hate it.

Shyamala Aunty


And they have turned Puru into a flat character...not surprised that many Indians like Alexander more than porus 😆n
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I knew you would be lamenting about the lack of footage for your favourite!😉😉

Roxanne is these days exactly like a lamp post.
That too one without a bulb!😆

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=luckySnow]Yeh sale na Barsine ki dikhayein Hain na Roxana ko theek se...
Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

I knew you would be lamenting about the lack of footage for your favourite!😉😉

Roxanne is these days exactly like a lamp post.
That too one without a bulb!😆

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=luckySnow]Yeh sale na Barsine ki dikhayein Hain na Roxana ko theek se...


Yes olympias is eating her role
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear Deepthi,

When was Sumer forgiven for attacking Puru? Have I missed something?

This apart, no one, not even a traitor, can be summarily executed even by the king without benefit of a trial and an opportunity to defend himself. Anusuya is not even the king. She has no right or powers to summarily execute Sumer.

She acts in haste in a crisis, which is understandable, and instead of wounding and stopping Sumer, she ends up killing him. "Why did you have to kill him?" is exactly the question the Dasyu rani asks, and Anusuya has no answer for that.

I don't know if Laachi and her family can forgive and forget what Anusuya did, or if they will believe whatever proof is forthcoming after an investigation. Puru himself clearly doesn't believe Sumer is guilty despite Anusuya's protests. If her son is himself doubtful about her affirmation, how can the Dasyus be expected to believe her? And their question as to why Anusuya killed Sumer straightaway has no answer.

I think there is going to be a major emotional conflict, leading to a breakdown of a relationship. My bet would be on that of Laachi and Puru, at least for a while.

As for Alexander, I can't accept the argument that he is only dealing with an enemy in a harsh manner, nor that many other kings have done the same.

Firstly, no honorable king that I know of would have done anything even half as sadistic and vile as what Alexander comtemplates with evident pleasure. It is only savages who would roast an enemy alive and relish the spectacle😡. They would mostly have been cannibals as well, and would have eaten their roasted enemy, an item one presumes is not on Alexander's programme.

Yes, those condemned for high treason were, till the 18th century in Europe and England, hung, drawn and quartered, ie ripped into four pieces by four galloping horses, each of which was tied to one of his four limbs.

But, for one thing, Chanakya was not a subject of Alexander's, and so cannot be guilty of high treason towards Alexander.

Secondly, setting aside such legal issues, even the horrors of the hanging, drawing, and quartering pale in comparison to the iron bull method of execution.

There is a huge moral difference between killing your enemy, the way Chanakya wants Porus to kill Alexander ( though that too would have been beneath an honorable king, as Porus asserts) and roasting him alive and exulting at his screams. The latter is sadistic, and acting thus would lower Alexander, in my eyes at least, beyond redemption.

Which, of course, is exactly what the CVs have been working towards all along where the Sony Alexander is concerned. Fot there would be very few viewers who would perceive what Alexander is planning the way you do. 99% would be , like me, horrified and disgusted. And from now on, they will see him as a monster, nothing less. In fact this is one of the very few occasions where I agree with Surbhi (Ethereal Rati).

I don't care a hoot how the Sony Olympias is shown. I care a great deal about how the Sony Alexander is shown. And what I saw last night was the pits.😡

Lastly, as far as I remember, the man Olympias stuffed into the iron bull did not die. Philip arrived before Olympias had got very far with her roasting programme, knocked the bull over, and rescued the unfortunate man. He was clearly alive when he was pulled out of the bull.

Shyamala Aunty

PS: Did you ever see my comments on the post on Porus that you had so kindly dedicated to me? They were, predictably😉,the longest in that thread! I had planned to post more detailed ones as a follow up, but as you didn't seem to have read the first one, I held off.

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

What emotional blackmailing?


Laachi believes, however wrongly, that Sumer was innocent. She defends Puru against the Dasyus because she believes that was the right and just thing to do. Not just because he is her husband.

Similarly, she now sees logic and justice in what her mother says. That their faith in Sumer's innocence is misplaced is irrelevant. All that is relevant is what they both believe

So Laachi is now going to demand that as the king, Puru too metes out justice, as she sees it, in the killing of her brother. Where does emotional blackmailing come in here?

If Anusuya had been deft enough to wound Sumer and halt him in his tracks, instead of killing him, things would have worked out far better. For her to now expect that Laachi and her family will accept what she asserts about Sumer being a traitor is illogical. Or even that they will believe whatever proof that can be eventually unearthed.

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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As I wrote above to Deepthi, I don't give a damn how the Sony Olympias is shown. I care a very great deal about how the Sony Alexander is shown. And the way he was depicted last night was the pits.😡

Chanakya will of course escape, but the sour taste left in my mouth by the very thought of what Alexander was contemplating will not disappear for a long time, if ever.

This is all quite deliberate on the part of the CVs. At this rate, very soon, even Rohit will not be able to salvage this Alexander. Which would be a tremendous pity, as I am sure you will agree

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: inlieu

I still remember that horrible scene when Olympias was torturing the poor man, and also how Philip was advising Alexander against excessive cruelty towards captives.

We're loving Alexander so much because of Rohit's performances but instead of looking like a fearless world conqueror he's behaving a typical villain. And the more he is "insulted" by Porus or Chanakya the more of such schemes we're probably going to see on the show.

It's all about his bruised ego for the moment, going by his answer to Olympias' questions on where is that Alexander? Olympias keeps asking him to just kill Chanakya off and not waste more time, which is a very sensible thing to do, yet he wants to plan these grand schemes which will fail spectacularly, humiliate him again, and enrage him further. Seems like a vicious cycle at this point.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Right Aunty, it is a real pity.

When the soldiers were dragging in that huge structure, even though it was covered I had already guessed what it was although hoping against hope it wouldn't be the bull. Yet, when it was revealed, I was really disgusted and disappointed, not just by the idea of the punishment itself but of the destruction of Alexander's character even further.

And yes, Rohit won't be able to salvage things at this rate. Poor guy, he thought he had been tasked to play Alexander the Great, but all it is amounting to these days is him having to snarl and scheme like a villain. The real Alexander must be fuming in his tomb. 😡

Originally posted by: sashashyam

As I wrote above to Deepthi, I don't give a damn how the Sony Olympias is shown. I care a very great deal about how the Sony Alexander is shown. And the way he was depicted last night was the pits.😡

Chanakya will of course escape, but the sour taste left in my mouth by the very thought of what Alexander was contemplating will not disappear for a long time, if ever.

This is all quite deliberate on the part of the CVs. At this rate, very soon, even Rohit will not be able to salvage this Alexander. Which would be a tremendous pity, as I am sure you will agree

Shyamala Aunty


Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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