The usage of Aap vs Tum

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Sorry in advance if this is a dumb question🤔

So I never realized this till today (re-watching Aditya's cuteness like a million times!)
But why does Aditya refer to Zoya as 'tum' and she still refers to him as 'aap' ?
Don't you usually refer to friends as 'tum' or 'tu'?
I know some husbands use tum for their wives while the wife says aap, because of the patriarchal structure etc. But Aditya and Zoya are just friends, wouldn't they be considered equals? 😕




(Just curious guys, my Hindi isn't that great. I literally learnt it all from watching movies & serials.
Half of my family speaks Bengali and half speak Bhojpuri so I have no one else to ask😆)

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Zoya says aap even to Noor.. Never heard her use tum...my Hindi sucks too but I think some ppl/cultures always use aap.. Some of the ppl I know even address their kids with aap... So I don't think Zoya means to use aap in the patriarchal sense... But it's just her way of using it on all ppl
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Zoya has been addressing to everyone as aap and not just Aditya, even to people younger to her like Noor. In olden days, people belonging to royal families or rich aristocratic families would address themselves as hum and others as aap. They would find it like their prestige. They would feel proud to call themselves hum and others aap. Even today, some aristocratic families use these words.
Zoya also belongs to a rich family of Mussoorie. In the initial episodes, Waseem and Anjana used to address their daughters as aap and themselves as hum. After they came to Mumbai, they have suddenly started using "tum' and 'main' words. Noor sometimes addresses Arjun and Aditya as tum, sometimes aap. That's the inconsistency in their characters.

In this matter, Zoya has been pretty consistent. I hope u got the answer to the question.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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As far as I know in Urdu we have to address Everyone as Aap no Matter elder or younger
And since Zoya is a Muslim girl her vocabulary is like this only
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: vandana21

Zoya says aap even to Noor.. Never heard her use tum...my Hindi sucks too but I think some ppl/cultures always use aap.. Some of the ppl I know even address their kids with aap... So I don't think Zoya means to use aap in the patriarchal sense... But it's just her way of using it on all ppl


Ohhh, never knew that. I thought she used aap as respect since Aditya was a stranger😲
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Tulips-

Zoya has been addressing to everyone as aap and not just Aditya, even to people younger to her like Noor. In olden days, people belonging to royal families or rich aristocratic families would address themselves as hum and others as aap. They would find it like their prestige. They would feel proud to call themselves hum and others aap. Even today, some aristocratic families use these words.

Zoya also belongs to a rich family of Mussoorie. In the initial episodes, Waseem and Anjana used to address their daughters as aap and themselves as hum. After they came to Mumbai, they have suddenly started using "tum' and 'main' words. Noor sometimes addresses Arjun and Aditya as tum, sometimes aap. That's the inconsistency in their characters.

In this matter, Zoya has been pretty consistent. I hope u got the answer to the question.


Thanks for clarifying! I never realized the hum-aap situation.

In another show, Kulfi Kumar Bajewala, I saw the richer kid telling the poorer kid to address her as "aap" not "tum" (even though they're just little kids), so I thought the aap-tum was used only in terms of respect, glad I asked here, because I was like why is Zoya always so formal😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Devakshilover

As far as I know in Urdu we have to address Everyone as Aap no Matter elder or younger
And since Zoya is a Muslim girl her vocabulary is like this only


Thanks for the clarification!
Urdu is still a puzzle to me, I am struggling with Hindi as it is😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Ishana-


Thanks for clarifying! I never realized the hum-aap situation.

In another show, Kulfi Kumar Bajewala, I saw the richer kid telling the poorer kid to address her as "aap" not "tum" (even though they're just little kids), so I thought the aap-tum was used only in terms of respect, glad I asked here, because I was like why is Zoya always so formal😆

In that show's case, it's matter of pride or economic status due to which the kid must have said that. The rich kid must have looked down upon the poor kid.

In Zoya's case, it's not about being formal. She's been quite informal with Adi since the beginning. I think it has got something to do with her upbringing or the cvs just wanted to show a different characteristic in the heroine. For me, the question is not about Zoya's aap and hum, it's about the rest of the Siddiqui family, specially the parents addressing themselves as main and others as tum. Zoya looks the odd one out here.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Tulips-

Zoya has been addressing to everyone as aap and not just Aditya, even to people younger to her like Noor. In olden days, people belonging to royal families or rich aristocratic families would address themselves as hum and others as aap. They would find it like their prestige. They would feel proud to call themselves hum and others aap. Even today, some aristocratic families use these words.

Zoya also belongs to a rich family of Mussoorie. In the initial episodes, Waseem and Anjana used to address their daughters as aap and themselves as hum. After they came to Mumbai, they have suddenly started using "tum' and 'main' words. Noor sometimes addresses Arjun and Aditya as tum, sometimes aap. That's the inconsistency in their characters.

In this matter, Zoya has been pretty consistent. I hope u got the answer to the question.


Btw it should be Waseem and Roshna - zoyas parents. Anjana is Aditya's mom.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Its just a urdu thing dear but being myself from a Muslim urdu background these days we dnt speak pure urdu and use tum, but in show they are showing pure culture and its just that.

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