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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: cuppa_n_cricket


@bold- I think that is precisely what is going on over here.😆

I agree with your analysis regarding Meera and Vivaan. Unfortunately, most of that gets lost in translation.

FFed through last week's epis and ohh boy we are yet to see anything from the ML's POV! He is all over the place and the screenplay just does not try to get across his conflict/confusion/love et al.

Now I am all for subtlety in a love story but THIS is obviously not that. And who else to blame for this incoherence other than the one who gets credited for the screenplay... Bhavna Vyas and her "team"(if she has one🥱).

To me they are toying with Vivaan's characterization and in all probability, CVs have got new instructions from the channel/PH to make this more "mainstream". As a result we have a poor variant of BnB instead of PnP. Fair enough. But what is stopping them from exploring the emotions of their ML otherwise? All they show is him reacting in anger... where is the self-reflection, monologues to suggest conflict, flash backs, self-reproach upon doing something deplorable... ANYTHING? You generate as much hate as you want for the "beast" but at least try selling his POV... so that we can understand what drives his actions, if not justify them all.

IMO, the track is based on the trauma that has defined their ML.. the ScrnPlay should try generating some sympathy for him in that aspect, if not for his actions against the FL. Save for one episode in between, we usually end up with more mindless scenes... WTH was that patra kaand+ ghee mein aag dalo shaadi?😕 If we have to analyse every character motivation, what is the ScrPlay writer doing?

If the upcoming Doubtfire nautanki also tries exploring Vivaan's POV through their conversations, then there will be some sort of semblance to this madness. Otherwise I have NO WORDS for kursi-ghoom romance!!

One fine day when this show will not be about "sheh aur maat", they will still need their ML around at least as a prop. He should not prick in the eye then. OTT "redemption" only makes sense if the character APPEARS redeemable. I am not suggesting he is not... but the screenplay needs work! Whatever the brief... If the ML appears shallow only because some vamp is driving the narrative, then that obviously shows ineptness of the writer.🥱


Couldn't agree more and honestly I was pretty optimistic when the OLV came around and was hoping that just maybe they ll be able to move past all the chaos, but I am quite dissapointed with this Mrs Doubtfire track😆 I clearly need a break from this show for a while, my optimism has worn of 😆 The crearive team should never have been changed but I guess no point cribbing about it. Maybe when the climax of this track comes about and BV has a Eureka moment and realizes that she needs to present a well rounded character, I'll start watching again :))
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9luck


Couldn't agree more and honestly I was pretty optimistic when the OLV came around and was hoping that just maybe they ll be able to move past all the chaos, but I am quite dissapointed with this Mrs Doubtfire track😆 I clearly need a break from this show for a while, my optimism has worn of 😆 The crearive team should never have been changed but I guess no point cribbing about it. Maybe when the climax of this track comes about and BV has a Eureka moment and realizes that she needs to present a well rounded character, I'll start watching again :))


It is sad that they could develop such a differently sketched ML but are now unable to even show his perspective. I remember he has lines like "dil aur dimag se sochna..." in that deftly handled black magic MU track. We could see the opinion clash/perspective there. What happened all of a sudden... that he now exists only to generate sympathy for every other character or to participate in trip-fall-catch?😕

The Doubtfire thing will be useful only if they explore his reasons/POV through conversations. One cannot support everything Meera does but at least the scrply explains her... why is it so shallow at the other end?

I don't feel invested in watching something written in such a glaringly bad manner. FF button and "important" scenes all the way. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: cuppa_n_cricket


It is sad that they could develop such a differently sketched ML but are now unable to even show his perspective. I remember he has lines like "dil aur dimag se sochna..." in that deftly handled black magic MU track. We could see the opinion clash/perspective there. What happened all of a sudden... that he now exists only to generate sympathy for every other character or to participate in trip-fall-catch?😕

The Doubtfire thing will be useful only if they explore his reasons/POV through conversations. One cannot support everything Meera does but at least the scrply explains her... why is it so shallow at the other end?

I don't feel invested in watching something written in such a glaringly bad manner. FF button and "important" scenes all the way. 😆


I know what you mean. I want to believe that this is just another side of Vivaan or even that this is his plan but with each upcoming track it seems less likely.
I sort of find it hard to digest that Vivaan cant recognize that its Meera 😆 or is this another one of his plans :p I mean I haven't seen the epi but still :p
I would honestly still watch if they bothered showing some romance just cause they have some lit chemistry between them but even thats not there :(

Edited:
Everyone seems to have enjoyed the epi maybe I am being too critical😆 damn kaleerein doesnt even let me quit😆
Edited by 9luck - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I want the writers to give us Vivaan's point of view and thoughts as soon as possible.
He and Meera should drive the narrative even if they are working individually.

First they gave more importance to Meera's equation with Roma and now her equation with Pammi Kapoor/Mrs Singh is being elevated.

When will we have MeerVaan's love story?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_May_Rose

I want the writers to give us Vivaan's point of view and thoughts as soon as possible.
He and Meera should drive the narrative even if they are working individually.

First they gave more importance to Meera's equation with Roma and now her equation with Pammi Kapoor/Mrs Singh is being elevated.

When will we have MeerVaan's love story?


Precisely why my optimism is wearing off 😆 I feel like such a hypocrite cause this post was all about looking at the brighter side of the narrative but I guess I didn't really account for things progressing like they are now :P It might be good comedy but I don't think we needed tracks and character flips like the ones we are witnessing at this stage of the story. Stuff like these usually come in much later when the story they wanted to tell is over and now they basically need to drag the show cause they are not ready to shut shop as of yet.
The love story, the freshness of the pairing, the intensity they had, wherein all they had to do was stand in the same frame and you could literally feel the tension between them be it in the positive or negative sense, emanating through the TV. That's lost as of now. Lets see where this ends up ultimately 😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9luck


Precisely why my optimism is wearing off 😆 I feel like such a hypocrite cause this post was all about looking at the brighter side of the narrative but I guess I didn't really account for things progressing like they are now :P It might be good comedy but I don't think we needed tracks and character flips like the ones we are witnessing at this stage of the story. Stuff like these usually come in much later when the story they wanted to tell is over and now they basically need to drag the show cause they are not ready to shut shop as of yet.
The love story, the freshness of the pairing, the intensity they had, wherein all they had to do was stand in the same frame and you could literally feel the tension between them be it in the positive or negative sense, emanating through the TV. That's lost as of now. Lets see where this ends up ultimately 😭



But that is the most frustrating thing about this. Aditi, Arijit and MeerVaan's story has much potential but the writers seem to be saving it for what exactly? Till the whole mother/step mother track is over?

I suppose we have to wait till the PK drama is over and hope they give us Vivaan's thoughts as soon as possible! The saving grace of the show are AdiJit and even now the writers do manage to give us good moments...

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