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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_May_Rose

I do not want to loose hope and wish the story takes a more positive turn for MeerVaan. 😊

Some where at the back of my mind, I hope against hope that this is can still be part of Vivaan's elaborate plan to trap Roma Kapoor. He suspects SM is tracking his every move and he is deliberately being mean to Meera for that reason. 😳

I feel silly for thinking this but I have become attached to the this jodi and do not want them to suffer the usual TV serial fate...


Agree with everything you have said. He suspected Roma during the black magic thing and found proof but I feel he thought that maybe she just wanted him to be done with Meera and go back. Also, the only reason she suspected her was because of Laali's white lie of their marriage being the Dhingras plan, when he knew very well that it was his decision. He also knew that Roma wouldn't know that because she wasn't here and she was just trying to twist everything around so that he could hate the Dhingra's. Post that unfortunately there has been no proof against Roma, only accusations so I guess he does not find a reason to hold her liable for heinous crimes such as getting Amaya killed. According to him, she has been there with them for 20 years, if she wanted to kill them she could have done that earlier, why would she do all of this all of a sudden. He also happens to be I such an emotionally charged up state that his rational side seems to be taking a hit. As for Laali, I don't think he ever really even gave her any consideration😆 He knows that she is Romas puppet and nothing more.

So within, this I m not too sure if this all his plan but then no harm in hoping 😆

They won't don't worry. I am sure they'll be able to come out of this chaos 😊 Its going to take a while though 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivanPathi

May be vivaan is deliberately separating from Meera to keep her nd the baby safe...He wants to end the relationship to that she stays out of this matter

.I don't think he believes that Meera is helping pammi kapoor in harming him... I feel that after sonikudi incident he is worried about Meera and his baby's safety
Even in today's episode he clearly said that pammi kapoor is taking advantage of her innocence


I agree, I share the same thought as you. Unless she is chased forcefully she is continuing to get involved and getting hurt! Vivaan cant see her hurt, so he is separating her from him.

He said that earlier too, when he tried telling her to stay with her mother, instead of him, when Sheri attacked at home!! She didnt agree. May be tht is the reason he is forcefully separating himself!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjani-pagli



I agree, I share the same thought as you. Unless she is chased forcefully she is continuing to get involved and getting hurt! Vivaan cant see her hurt, so he is separating her from him.

He said that earlier too, when he tried telling her to stay with her mother, instead of him, when Sheri attacked at home!! She didnt agree. May be tht is the reason he is forcefully separating himself!


I also thought this but i think this time he is angry.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: naam11


I also thought this but i think this time he is angry.


we r all hoping Vivz character s nt butchered further

Lets wait n watch!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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It'll be great if this ends up being his plan but I don't know guys, I don't want to bet on that. Maybe because he doesn't have ay monologues that is why we don't know what exactly he is thinking, but as of now it seems as if he is genuinely upset. But let's see, no harm in hoping 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Great for us all for diaxuss and debate these things. The same things look so different to each of us - I guess depending on who we are ourselves. Let's hope they give us new fodder rather than repeating the same - Meera acting like the bull in a china store and Vivaan shouting you are stupid and get out to her
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: UKGirl22



Great for us all for diaxuss and debate these things. The same things look so different to each of us - I guess depending on who we are ourselves. Let's hope they give us new fodder rather than repeating the same - Meera acting like the bull in a china store and Vivaan shouting you are stupid and get out to her

I hope thats not an underhanded jab at me 😆 na na just kidding 😊 Ya i hope so as well but I guess its just going to take a while to clear everything out. To create drama they have created quite a chaos and maybe they are feeling the pressure to expose roma as well, so I guess in a few more weeks things should settle down hopefully 😊

Its great to have had this discussion though and that is the fun part about fiction that its open to interpretation😊 😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9luck


I hope thats not an underhanded jab at me😆na na just kidding😊Ya i hope so as well but I guess its just going to take a while to clear everything out. To create drama they have created quite a chaos and maybe they are feeling the pressure to expose roma as well, so I guess in a few more weeks things should settle down hopefully😊

Its great to have had this discussion though and that is the fun part about fiction that its open to interpretation😊😛



Definitely not a jab!!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: UKGirl22



Definitely not a jab!!!

Haha i know was just kidding 😊😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: 9luck

I don't want Meera to leave him either. I want them to repent, I want them to apologize and I want them to grow from this. Every marriage I am sure hits a rough patch at some point, but we don't quit. It would be great, if In TV as well they showed a couple trying to move past their mistakes, rather than the cliched trying to manaofy the other. But it'll probably end up being the next track. This track already has become the track where the FL is right, the ML doesn't get that, he becomes an ass, the FL suffers, the audience loss their shit and sympathize with the FL, irrespective of her batshit crazy antics and plans and then once everything is fine again, then the FL grows a spine overnight and then we have the ML becoming the majnu.

@bold- I think that is precisely what is going on over here.😆

I agree with your analysis regarding Meera and Vivaan. Unfortunately, most of that gets lost in translation.

FFed through last week's epis and ohh boy we are yet to see anything from the ML's POV! He is all over the place and the screenplay just does not try to get across his conflict/confusion/love et al.

Now I am all for subtlety in a love story but THIS is obviously not that. And who else to blame for this incoherence other than the one who gets credited for the screenplay... Bhavna Vyas and her "team"(if she has one🥱).

To me they are toying with Vivaan's characterization and in all probability, CVs have got new instructions from the channel/PH to make this more "mainstream". As a result we have a poor variant of BnB instead of PnP. Fair enough. But what is stopping them from exploring the emotions of their ML otherwise? All they show is him reacting in anger... where is the self-reflection, monologues to suggest conflict, flash backs, self-reproach upon doing something deplorable... ANYTHING? You generate as much hate as you want for the "beast" but at least try selling his POV... so that we can understand what drives his actions, if not justify them all.

IMO, the track is based on the trauma that has defined their ML.. the ScrnPlay should try generating some sympathy for him in that aspect, if not for his actions against the FL. Save for one episode in between, we usually end up with more mindless scenes... WTH was that patra kaand+ ghee mein aag dalo shaadi?😕 If we have to analyse every character motivation, what is the ScrPlay writer doing?

If the upcoming Doubtfire nautanki also tries exploring Vivaan's POV through their conversations, then there will be some sort of semblance to this madness. Otherwise I have NO WORDS for kursi-ghoom romance!!

One fine day when this show will not be about "sheh aur maat", they will still need their ML around at least as a prop. He should not prick in the eye then. OTT "redemption" only makes sense if the character APPEARS redeemable. I am not suggesting he is not... but the screenplay needs work! Whatever the brief... If the ML appears shallow only because some vamp is driving the narrative, then that obviously shows ineptness of the writer.🥱

Edited by cuppa_n_cricket - 7 years ago

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