PRC khwaja Chisti story??? - Page 3

OMG. i am watching JA. n Akbar is praing at tht chishti's dargah .........

Originally posted by: miraclemun

Whatever his true story is, I am not liking this Khwaja person. 😡

you have no right to say about any big divine person in public forum understand!!!😡

Originally posted by: farahnaazz

you have no right to say about any big divine person in public forum understand!!!😡

farah.. i know.. it was rude.. but still.. she has the right to express her opinion.. she never asked u to hate him... she only said what she felt...
it is a fundamental right... "right to freedom of expression"

yep agreed with lakshmi. rite to expression.......i guess one of the fundamental rites provided in Indian Constitution 😛

I agree, Mansi has a right to express her views, and if he was a divine person, he should not have been converting people-there is nothing divine about that...

Originally posted by: farahnaazz

you have no right to say about any big divine person in public forum understand!!!😡

lots of people say a lot of things about a lot of famous people...and I have my full right to express my views.
Thanks. 😊

when MF Hussain paints his degenerate pictures, no one says much of them, and if Mansi says that the Khwaja Chisti should not have been converting it becomes rude....if this is offensive to people...then it may be....but i have a right to express my view

the following is one version of the story:

On his arrival in India, the country was in a state of depression. On state's northwestern border the kingdom of the Ghaznavids was spreading havoc. Foreign invasions had weakened India and the social condition in India was deteriorating. Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti, arrived in Ajmer in 1165, on his divine mission. At that time, Ajmer was ruled by Raja Rai Pithora of the Chohan dynasty. In his court, he had a large number of powerful magicians with Ajai Pal as their leader. Khwaja Moinuddin stayed on a hill close to Ana Sagar Lake now known as the Chillah Khwaja Sahib. At the arrival of Khwaja Moinuddin, there was not even a single Muslim in the state. Khwaja Moinuddin stayed on the camel stable of the Raja of Ajmer. When the camel drivers returned with the camels from the grazing grounds in the evening and objected to his stay and the Royal soldiers removed him from the place forcibly. Khwaja Moinuddin moved away to another place saying: "Now, the camels shall sit here." The other day when the camel drivers tried to raise the camels they failed to do so. They realized of their misbehavior to a holy man, beseeched of his pardon, which he readily granted. He asked them that whoever made the camel sit would raise them. When the camel drivers returned they saw the camels moving about. The news of this strange anecdote reached the ears of the Raja and the people flocked to him in droves, and many non-believers accepted Islam on his hand.

The Raja was not happy with his stay in Ajmer and started harassing him one way or the other. When nothing worked, he put the yogis after him. Jiapal, the Chief Pundit (priest) of the temple, came to face him along with his disciples. Khwaja Moinuddin gave him some water to drink, as soon as he drank it, his condition changed, and fell on the feet of Khwaja Moinuddin and accepted Islam.
Many of the royal servants embraced Islam on the hand of Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti. Raja's daughter too became a Muslim. The events made the Raja upset and he threatened him to evict from Ajmer. In reply to the threats he said," We turned him out and entrusted him".

Khwaja Moinuddin Chisti's words proved true. The famous Muslim ruler Sultan Shahab-uddin Mohammad Ghouri attacked India, and became the new ruler of the state by defeating the Raja.
From the land of paganism i.e. Ajmer, Khwaja Moinuddin started the spiritual movement of the propagation of the Truth.

http://www.sufiblog.com/khwaja-moinuddin-chishti-gharibnawaz .html

People forget that the right to offend is several times more important than the right not to be offended.

Out of the fundamental freedoms given in my country, one of them is the freedom to express my thoughts, this is what I have done, it was in no way degrading at all. I have the full right of saying my opinion, and yes, people will get mad, but it doesn't mean that I should stop expressing my view points, because I talk when things matter.

Hmmm...
i heard some story telling dat this Khwaja Chisti was a Muslim n PRC was a Hindu king...Apparently some tiff had happened between the both of them regarding religious views n it had hurt Chist's sentiments...
So...from dat day onward he turned against PRC...N He was the one who hepled Ghori in over powering PRC n destroying Ajmer...
I don't know how far is this story true... 😕

Originally posted by: ratilal22192

when MF Hussain paints his degenerate pictures, no one says much of them, and if Mansi says that the Khwaja Chisti should not have been converting it becomes rude....if this is offensive to people...then it may be....but i have a right to express my view


http://www.sufiblog.com/khwaja-moinuddin-chishti-gharibnawaz .html

yep, I posted the same link before, and the sufis themselves say these things, its not made up history by anyone else, and the sufis admit to what he did, and all the conversions...

and yeah i agree with you, M.F. Hussein does a lot of degradation to Hindu deities, but no one has a problem, people say that he is just exercising his fundamental right to express his artistic talent 😡...so what is wrong if I say something bad about Chisthi? I'm sure your opinions will remain the same regardless of what I say, so it doesn't really matter what I say, I'm just trying to tell you all what I think about this issue. 😊