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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--

@adni143

Hey, glad to know your thoughts and I'm equally amazed as my thoughts on so many things are too similar to yours. I believe in scientism (believing science is above religion) and also a true feminist (who fights for equal rights of everyone, none is above the other)...

I have friends from all religions and what I've observed is people from other religions aren't open to something out of their culture or religion or their holy books, except hindus who on a major part atleast lend their ears to new thoughts. I'm not offending anyone here instead just stating a fact.

but I think this isn't a right place for such discussions. Quora has been a place for me for such discussions, its a place with high intellectuals who mostly condemn the common practices that are bad for the society. Its good that you put out your pov here but if you want answers quora is the place.

hey i even use quora for discussion and i love that site to death
and that site really helped me in alot way wether it be knowledge purpose or day to day life
i have no words to express how that site helped me but i come to these site as i feel there is aneed to make everyone know as here most people are not using quora and they watch telserials so i feel this is platform even to make them know wether they accept or not like i said i even make my parent understand when they are wrong wether they realise and understand or not but there are chances that they will somewhat understand and you know it really worked
what my parent were in 2000 is not the same now they have changed alot and understood many thing
as i really am not active much here only i have joined the debate part
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: attiya1.3

Your post is perfect example of how one should never say anything until he has knowledge of topic.

Same way ,is a cannot show female qazi as its not in religion.
I ,as a Muslim have believe that whatever written in Quran is truth and applied on everything and we have proper justification to it.

You cannot question religion until you have complete knowledge of it.even I have 99% issues with Hinduism, Christianity and other religions but, this is not place to discuss and question ones belief .

Moreover you compared two different aspect.treating boys and girls equally in house or what's their position in inheritance, gawahi is different.
Muslims treat and respect women to highest levels .that's why population of women ,as described by nature , is high in Muslim countries as compared to a nation who just poses to worship women.( I know this feels bad and bitter but that's what I felt when you questioned Quran )
Questioning is not a problem but, way of questions matter.

And if you research, why those two laws are mentioned, you will find answers..why two women equal to one man in gawahi and inherentence.
BTW, inherentence law benefits women...men get double share as he runs a family, have to do kifalat of entire family...in other way he is instructed to spend that double share on women of his family.and women gets his own share which belongs to her only...( is this partiality ??)

Gawahi...as you read...women by nature tends to forget things.that's why we work hard on studies etc to remember as compared to boys who are naturally blessed...that's scientific readearch...not said by Quran.

Its said so if one women forgets, other can make her remember ...that's it...its not said there gawahi is not accepted.

Hope I am lenient with my words...
Cheers.😊

P.s: until now is a has done brilliant job with research.
Unlike beinteha ,where women was getting married with ex husband without halala and clearly said" I don't accept shariah laws" ...

I have faith they will go by laws otherwise its better to shut rather than giving false information about religion.


where did u read about this sceintific research about women tend to forget things compared to men?
secondly is this your personal opinion women are respected highly in muslim countries so their population is high . or is their any scientific evidence .?

ps _ : i am an atheist i do not beileve in any religion nor written in their books as gospel ttruth.
i pick humanity over faith .

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashiprat


where did u read about this sceintific research about women tend to forget things compared to men?
secondly is this your personal opinion women are respected highly in muslim countries so their population is high . or is their any scientific evidence .?

ps _ : i am an atheist i do not beileve in any religion nor written in their books as gospel ttruth.
i pick humanity over faith .


I had search for my project and its multiple books 5 years back..
You can go ahead with your own research..find your own answers.all religion pick humanity first...its just interpretation.

BTW..it was quite popular article where India is only country where men are higher than women..
Rest of the world has women higher as its by nature, women are in more number than men...
Respect and population point was quoted in separate context...I never said ,any other religion doesn't respect women..its upon upbringing ...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: attiya1.3


I had search for my project and its multiple books 5 years back..
You can go ahead with your own research..find your own answers.all religion pick humanity first...its just interpretation.

BTW..it was quite popular article where India is only country where men are higher than women..
Rest of the world has women higher as its by nature, women are in more number than men...
Respect and population point was quoted in separate context...I never said ,any other religion doesn't respect women..its upon upbringing ...

there is no truth that only india has highest male population . if you google you will find facts that india and china tops the countries with highest male population . china is not muslim country .iran being a muslim country has more male population than female . pakistan has more male population than female population . you can google and find .



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Firstly Zara cannot be qazi not atleast in India because here women hardly go to masjid for praying in no.'s compared to men since praying for women in masjid is not compulsory secondly women cannot lead men prayer they are suppossed to pray behind no not because they are less but because they distract men not mehram.Lastly men are stronger but in Allah swt.s vision both are equal in terms when sins are accounted or blessings given.
If show is not in detail its there fault.
Its a drama not for purpose of debate.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashiprat

there is no truth that only india has highest male population . if you google you will find facts that india and china tops the countries with highest male population . china is not muslim country .iran being a muslim country has more male population than female . pakistan has more male population than female population . you can google and find .




China has population issues...they wanted to get rid of its population and its uneven population is result of it.

I was not putting across point where Muslim country is better or non Muslim better.

I stated what I read for my project.

And Pakistan with high population of male!!! Rexetly there was article that abandoned child ratio has 95% female in Pakistan.
Then how come males can be high.??
I didn't find any list with Pakistan.I love to know where pak stands.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Pakistan definitely has more male population. See the link below showing highlights of 2017 census:

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/08/population-census-2017-men-outnumber-women-pakistan/
Here's another one from the government bureau compendium which has data from 1947-2009:

http://www.pbs.gov.pk/sites/default/files/social_statistics/publications/cgs2009/COMPENDIUM%20GENDER%20STATISTICS%202009.pdf


- yet another person who believes more in science and humanity
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: suman_sa

Pakistan definitely has more male population. See the link below showing highlights of 2017 census:

https://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2017/08/population-census-2017-men-outnumber-women-pakistan/
Here's another one from the government bureau compendium which has data from 1947-2009:

http://www.pbs.gov.pk/sites/default/files/social_statistics/publications/cgs2009/COMPENDIUM%20GENDER%20STATISTICS%202009.pdf


- yet another person who believes more in science and humanity


Interesting..thanks I really liked this article...Pakistan is also going towards inconsistencies ...I don't understand how we can kill a baby girl or disown it...sick mentality.

BTW...I don't in science ..its just creation of people to prove things which God has already told.

But want to know...how atheist justify natural events? Death, life, calamities...just put science as reason?

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