Sameer and Kamya--Money & Happiness Debate

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Posted: 7 years ago
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The sages always say that money can't buy happiness; all you need is love. Popular media begs to differ, alongside grandstanding doctrines like Objectivism and Machiavellianism: Work hard to earn, save, and squirrel away your largest possible personal fortune, and guard it at all costs.
What does the research say? People who fall into the category of "very happy always have strong social connections. However, the apparent paradox from these studiesthat richer people spend less time socializing but say they feel less lonelywarrants further inquiry into the interplay between wealth, social connection, and happiness.

Sameer and Kamya both can be put into the 'rich,lonely kid' category.So whats your view on their patterns of behaviour.
Does it warrant that wealth -social connection-love -happiness are inversely proportional?

Do share your opinions!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Super discussion worthy post Minu
Money and Love I believe are both important for survival...There was a time when I believed that love is the ultimate need of man and money is nothing...but over the course of time I realized that yes undoubtedly Love is the ultimate need but money should is not be disregarded is unimportant...

There is movie dialogue I heard in a Marathi movie " Premane poat bharat nahi" which literally translates to Love can't fill empty stomachs...You need money for that...I have seen this in many households and even in my house, that yes Love is required but the moment there is a decrease in money in the house, Love takes a backseat...because only love cannot fill our stomachs...Eventually after some years of maturity, I have started to believe that Love is something which goes along in parallel with our other life activities such as education, earning money, traveling, etc. Yes we need money to educate, to fill our stomachs and travel, but it is also true that we cannot do all this without the support of our loved ones. So it eventually comes down to the point that Love is the ultimate driving force to do anything or achieve anything in life. Love, care and support are those backstage artists who probably might never get the limelight, but without them the show of our life would be a dull show and we won't achieve the required success and money without them.

Now about social connection, then I feel that Money makes you socialize accordingly. Usually making social connections and socializing is and was a luxury, and a luxury can only be attained if one has money. Yes but it is also true that excess of anything is not good. Excess need or probably one can say excess greed of money, eventually makes us less available to give and take love. We don't have time for support and care and hence eventually connections with our loved ones are soured and chances are person becomes lonely.

Now in case of Sameer, his step-family has lot of money, they roam around in the society as the wealthy ones with their heads held high, but unfortunately over the years they have ran so much behind attaining success that they have forgot the basic values of loving a child and nurturing a child with love and care. Infact more than Sameer, I feel pity for Rohan. Atleast Nanu had the right balance of his need for money in life and that's why he was able to give and take love as well. In his life he had the right balance of achieving success, earning good amount of money and also spreading love, care and support. And atleast Sam was lucky to have that for 17 years in his life not from many people but from only one person atleast. Yes he is lonely as he didn't have a perfect family life, but atleast not like Rohan who has perfect family but they pressurize him so much that at times it makes it even difficult to breathe. It doesn't mean that his family doesn't love him, but their approach is somewhere wrong. Situation created around Rohan is so weird, that he can't even complain about it to anyone.

And Kamya's background is not much shown so can't comment much, but probably she is a case which craves for attention from everything that is beauty and fine in life.
Edited by KashafZaroon30 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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One of my most favourite discussion... Love or Money... What is more important?

Well, it could be an eternal discussion but for me, I have always felt money is what is needed for survival... If I have enough to cover my needs, my family's requirements, and achieve my basic dreams that is enough for me. I never aspired to reach the potential "millionaire club or any other clubs. And love, this is something which you can earn as much as you give, no limits here, no balance sheets to take care of, no wise investment decisions needed, and the rate of interest keeps compounding at an exponential rate.

Money does not create hindrances in socializing, in fact the richer you are there are more expectations from you to build and maintain connections, because how can you be rich and have no connections when that is the way you have probably earned the very riches. Taking an example, a businessman in his earlier stage develops his product/offering as much as he develops the connections/relations who would help him sell the product or buy the product, and as his business grows so does the numerous branches of connections - at the end he is required to maintain these ties and contacts, even if he doesn't want to from his heart, because any turbulence in this network of connections will have the potential to bring down his entire empire. They might be happy with some of these connections, but with most it's a matter of social requirement.

A common man, who is more concerned about fulfilling his own requirements is not worried about maintaining his position in the social strata or maintaining bonds that his heart isn't agreeing with. For him having a villa is not important but having a roof over his head that he can call his own is more important - 1bhk or 5bhk, it doesn't matter... He is trying to build something basic for his family and himself, not a specimen that could be termed as the 8th wonder of the world. Whatever bond he has build is not based on the give-and-take of money or favours, but more on friendship and genuine help. These bonds last longer and are infinitely stronger than any socio-economic bond simply because there is no compulsion to maintain them.

Securing your hard-earned money is important, which is why we invest, but squirrelling away every bit of it, like Disney's Uncle Scrooge, is never going to give you the peace of mind you need to enjoy your life. For me, money is only as much worth as its use. If I cannot make someone happy, if I cannot do anything for my loved ones, if I cannot pamper myself, if I cannot use it generously to make a stranger more comfortable, then what is the use of those currencies I am earning. To secure my future some 20 years later? Well maybe yes, but do I need every bit of it? What happens if I myself am not there to enjoy the fruits of my hard-earned money?

Sameer and Kamya are from generations who are going to inherit the money, yet there is a difference between them. Kamya is a pampered princess, who can create a huff for a mere hair clip, as much as she can for a precious diamond. She is secured about her status and beauty, and this leads her to see other girls in her class as inferior to her. Sameer, is rich but not pampered, for him money is like a substitute of his parents' love, he has been receiving it without limits, yet spends it on friends, for his friends, and is not interested in flaunting it unless necessary, and he does not view it as a medium to social superiority.

Sameer earned friends in Nainital with his status and money, and they didn't stand by him when needed, even though he fulfilled his friendship and was rusticated from school. In Ahmedabad, he earned friends with his genuineness, and they stand by him in every happiness and pain. Isn't this the perfect example of a socio-economic bond vs. a true bond?

To conclude, the amount of money you have doesn't matter... how you view that money and its importance matters. You can sleep peacefully with a basic pay and even with millions in your bank account, only if you are using that money for something constructive and for the happiness of others.

I think I did write a lot... hopefully I was able to convey my thoughts effectively. Sorry for the extremely long post Minu... 😒

Edited by moumita04 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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So true minu money don't buy happiness.
Sameer initially had lots of money and have today too but he get actual happiness with their close one. He don't have happy memories of money but of his friends he had lots of happy moments which turned now dearest memory.
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Aur ek baar sorry bologi for any post and for its length to Chingri share nahin karungi tumse..🥱
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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

Aur ek baar sorry bologi for any post and for its length to Chingri share nahin karungi tumse..🥱


Oh no! Yeh kaisa threat de diya...!! 😲
No sorry baba... sab sorry wapas le leti hun...!! Chingri share to karna padega... Dosti aur pyaar ka sawaal hai... Isiliye ab se no sorry and purane saare sorry bhi wapas...!! 😳
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Originally posted by: moumita04


Oh no! Yeh kaisa threat de diya...!! 😲
No sorry baba... sab sorry wapas le leti hun...!! Chingri share to karna padega... Dosti aur pyaar ka sawaal hai... Isiliye ab se no sorry and purane saare sorry bhi wapas...!! 😳

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Originally posted by: TereLiyeMINU

Haan..ab thik hai..😃 For you-


I LOVE YOU SWEETHEART... ❤️
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Posted: 7 years ago
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A great point to discuss.
In my opinion both money and love are important... Money wont actually buy happiness... Bt enough money is needed for survival... Nt lots of money, bt enough money is always required... Bt not having it enough can lead to unhappy life... Like a parent can't be happy, if he/she is not able to fulfill the needs of his/her child... In this case, love won't be enough.
Also if we are in a relationship, like marriage and the couple are truly in love... Bt still we can't manage without having enough money... Without having enough money will lead to problems eventually... In another scenario if the couple has lots of money and no true love, even then the relationship can't survive as money cant really buy happiness... Bt yes love will give you the strength to survive any adverse circumstances.
About socializing, people do make contacts usually according to their status.. Like Daadi's friends are mostly those society ladies likes to show off... Taiji and chachiji kind of middle people has friends accordingly... Bt chachaji and tauji being educated will have connections with upper class people too.
Look at nanu, he lets sameer make friends who are good and he himself had connections with people of all strata... He had money and did shower sameer with materialistic things as well as love... He knew how to balance both love and money... His happiness on finding out about sameer being in love with naina is a proof to that... He wanted sameer to have a partner who is good and will love him... And not someone who is from the same class as them... Bt i'm sure daadi won't let rohan do the same way... She wont let him socialize with people of other classes... Nor will she let him a partner who's not from upper class... So he wont be able to stay happy with just money as love is equally important.
Both money and love should be balanced equally... Only then we can have a good life.


Edited by angelic567 - 7 years ago

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