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JackSparrowcraz

@JackSparrowcraz

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Posted: 8 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: KabhiKabhi

Not that Ranveer's talent needs anymore explanation and it speaks for itself but before making such statements please watch "Lootera". But then again I understand there is no point into saying anything here.

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I wouldn't cast Ranbir in anything. Every role of his starts turning into manchild. Even I see it now. 😆

I hope those roles are spare from being ruined by Ranveer.

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Daakshaayani Aadarsh

@PandavPranayini

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Posted: 8 years ago

#12

That book was bad. 🤢

As I love Draupadi, couldn't digest the way the author wrote the book. Is Mahabharata there for us to distort it?

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blue-ice.

@blue-ice.

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Posted: 8 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: Eggon_Snow

You should check out a movie called Lootera before saying that Ranveer cannot play calm and sane and subtle.

That needs a director like Motwane and not SLB.

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Ume Salma Kakal

@sunflower52

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Posted: 8 years ago

#14

Ranveer needs a director who can control his tendency to go OTT. Like Zoya or lootera director even Ashotosh would be a good choice, not SLB.

SLB is a horrible director has no vision and tendency to not follow the book or poem.

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Padfoot_Prongs

@Padfoot_Prongs

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Posted: 8 years ago

#15

I didn't like the book. I detest Karna- Draupadi pairing. It is injustice to original Mahabharat. But whatever.

A movie on this will lead to more violent protests. Making God Krishna a manipulative jerk ( with how he manipulated whole Arjun-Draupadi marriage- I hated that) will never go down well with anyone. These may be paid protests for Padmavati but Distorted story on Mahabharat and that much distortion will never go down with anyone. Books in english are one thing, but showing this unrequited-pining romance between Draupadi and Karna will never be acceptable among masses.

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@sherlockthor

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Posted: 8 years ago

#16

^ true that.

I actually liked Draupadi and Karna pairing. There is a story that Karna had all the qualities of the 5 Pandavas and if all was fair , she would have married Karna.

Also if Arjun can have so many wives , why shouldn't Draupadi fall in love with Karna. She was forced to marry all 5 husbands when she wanted only Arjuna.

Actually Mahabharata is totally a tragedy thats why I said it could be perfect for SLB.

Maybe not palace of illusions, but he should make a movie on this great Epic. It never fails to fascinate me, It shows every range of human emotions.

Since I am still hung up on Ranveer Deepika , I am seeing their faces in every character. They can literally be perfect for any role and can mould themselves.

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1123225

Hibernated

Posted: 8 years ago

#17

For those who liked Karna-Panchali pairing in POI or elsewhere:

1) Karna was the one who ordered Dusshassana to sexually assault her

2) He then asked her to choose one among the men assembled in the dice hall to have sex with

3) And he followed it with ordering Dusshassana to take her to the quarters meant for (sex) slaves

Panchali herself said to Krishna that Karna and gang wished to "enjoy" her as they would a slave

Panchali called Karna and others insignificant men.

Karna offered up his own wife and children to anyone who could help him locate Arjuna and Krishna in the battlefield.

Karna mocked Shalya for allowing women freedom

Karna mocked Shalya for allowing his citizens to choose their own caste. Karna was not just the poster boy for misogyny, he was the biggest casteist in the cast of characters.

Karna's kingdom of Anga was the hub of child sex trafficking in the subcontinent. A fact, when brought up by Shalya, Karna does not deny. He was the Abu Bakr al Baghdadi of Aryavarta, profiting from sex trade.

In the 1980s/early 90s, there were movies like Benaam Baadshah and Raja ki Aayegi Baaraat which put rape survivors with the criminal rapists. Putting Karna and Panchali together is akin to that.

Vyasa did not do this. His heroine had only contempt for Karna. This 🤢 romance exists only in the minds of certain authors.

Oh, yeah. Before someone brings up the suthaputra comment, that comment has been eliminated by the Critical Edition as a clear later interpolation as it is seen only in 4 out of 1200+ manuscripts. In the rest, he didn't participate or he failed.

Neither did she say anything about blind people. The ones laughing were Bheema and the twins. Later, when Duryodhana recounted it for his father, he added Arjuna and Krishna-Vasudeva to it, and tacked on a throwaway sentence about Draupadi and other women laughing. Nothing about any commentary by her.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 8 years ago

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Daakshaayani Aadarsh

@PandavPranayini

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Posted: 8 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: apoorvaarnav
^ true that.
I actually liked Draupadi and Karna pairing. There is a story that Karna had all the qualities of the 5 Pandavas and if all was fair , she would have married Karna.
Also if Arjun can have so many wives , why shouldn't Draupadi fall in love with Karna. She was forced to marry all 5 husbands when she wanted only Arjuna.

Actually Mahabharata is totally a tragedy thats why I said it could be perfect for SLB.

Maybe not palace of illusions, but he should make a movie on this great Epic. It never fails to fascinate me, It shows every range of human emotions.

Since I am still hung up on Ranveer Deepika , I am seeing their faces in every character. They can literally be perfect for any role and can mould themselves.

Mahabharata is not a tragedy. Draupadi willingly married the 5 Pandavas and never loved Karna, she loved the five equally, all this Arjuna/Karna things are distortions.

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JackSparrowcraz

@JackSparrowcraz

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Posted: 8 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: sunflower52
Ranveer needs a director who can control his tendency to go OTT. Like Zoya or lootera director even Ashotosh would be a good choice, not SLB.
SLB is a horrible director has no vision and tendency to not follow the book or poem.

Ranveer has a squeaky voice.He is so awful in crying scenes.

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Janaki

@RamKiSeeta

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Posted: 8 years ago

#20

I hated this book too. It was nothing but fiction, and the worst thing was that it destroyed the characters of Krishna and my beloved Panchali. Krishna was manipulative and ruthless, and Panchali was cold and unloving. If anyone actually chose to read the original manuscripts of the epic, they would know that 1) Draupadi never called Karna a sutaputra, in fact he tried and lost the competition in her swayamvar, 2) Draupadi never laughed at or called Duryodhana blind, it was Bhima and the twins who did so and 3) Draupadi in the book is mentioned many times loving all five of her husbands and being sublimely happy with them. She narrates this herself to Satyabhama once in the forest. Draupadi's life was no tragedy until the dyut sabha.

There was no Karna-Draupadi angle anywhere in the original epic or subsequent translations. It is only the modern folklore and recent stories by authors where they've explored this fictitious angle. What's worse is that Draupadi lusting after Karna is akin to a victim of abuse lusting after her abuser, as Karna had a very active role in her disrobing.

If anyone every made a movie on Palace of Illusions, there would be more controversy than there ever was with Padmaavat. You just don't mess with Gods. Books are one thing, movies are another.

Edited by ..RamKiJanaki.. - 8 years ago

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