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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Sree: I agree with you, Harish, Supriya & Naren have gone beyond redemptions now... the sadistic pleasures they are getting by constantly insulting Pooja & chandrika is getting unbearable now. Chandrika is a tawaif, so what it's her choice & her circumstances, she didn't hurt you anyway...how did these guys so easily forget that she saved Naren's life without expecting anything from them, it's they who wanted to know her identity not the other way around... someone saved your sons life, you can't return back that gesture even by serving her for life, on the contrary you treat her so badly...this is not mistake, this is a SIN that these three are committing which will & should scar them for life. For the way these three have treated Pooja & chandrika, no amount of apologies or repentance will be suffice.
Agar dho bhoondh aansoo aur sorry boldene se sab kuch maff kiya ja saktha hai tho log koon karke bhe mafi manglenge...
Trust me Rahul & Neelima look like a saint in front of Naren & Supriya. Rahul behaves badly only with his enemies, and he treats no one as his except him & his parents, but Naren treats his own once upon a time beloved wife like this, Harish & Supriya treating their own once upon a time beloved bahu like this. Insulting a lady who saved you sons life...how badly these three have fallen, I can't express in words...

each and every word and point is true anoosree .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sree.gattu


each and every point of yours is true anoosree . i too have same views as you had . I didn't understand why he is hating Pooja and chandrika . cv's should show Naren not smart but bewakoof who believe and trust wrong people and he can't judge people that's why trusting naina who wanted to destroy her sister Pooja's life . Rahul don't have words . this time Naren's hatred is not at all reasonable and the way he is behaving is not acceptable.
Naren twaif ki ghar ki cheez aur Pooja ko touch karne se clean karvatha hain toh Naren ki andar ki Chandrika ki bone marrow ko kaise clean kiya . harish ko Pooja main ganda khoon nazar aatha hai so he doesn't wanted her to be near them than whey keeping Naren with them as Naren zinda only because of Chandrika's bone marrow , ungrateful people in which Naren too got added . I never saw him feeling grateful to chandrika as he is alive today only because of her in return she didn't take anything from Mahan family . kaun poochega Naren se Chandrika ki bonemarrow ko kis chees se clean kar ke body rakha as cleaning bohut zaroor hain for Naren .


@bold: this is gold Sree. Naren seems to have conveniently forgotten that the same gandha koon that these people keep ranting about has actually saved Naren's life & is still running in his system. But who will ask him, harish and Supriya this question. The only people capable are Pooja, Mamaji & Dadaji, Pooja will not ask, she has decided to become the doormat, how I wish Dadaji asks this question to Naren after giving a tight slap to him. Jab apno se padthi hai tho dardh badi zooro se lagthi hai. Last time Mamaji gave a tight slap to Naren and questioned him in such a way that Naren drowned himself. This time I want Dadaji to do the honors pls. He should show the mirror to Naren.

Next time Naren is going to rant about gandha koon or Pooja & chandrika being tawaif, I want Dadaji to give one keeckhe in Naren's gaal and tell him that it's the very same tawaif's koon that saved his life and is still running inside him, for which he paid her nothing. So he better find ways to clean it up first before he raises his fingers at Pooja & chandrika.

This would at least redeem Dadaji a bit, coz right now even Dadaji in spite of his support to Pooja, comes across as selfish, he is silent when Naren is insulting Pooja & chandrika. Seems he cares only about his family, their reputation & Naren's emotions . What about Pooja & chandrika' self respect, emotions & happiness.

CVs pls make it happen...
Edited by anoosree - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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each and every point of yours is true anoosree . i too have same views as you had . I didn't understand why he is hating Pooja and chandrika . cv's should show Naren not smart but bewakoof who believe and trust wrong people and he can't judge people that's why trusting naina who wanted to destroy her sister Pooja's life . Rahul don't have words . this time Naren's hatred is not at all reasonable and the way he is behaving is not acceptable.
Naren twaif ki ghar ki cheez aur Pooja ko touch karne se clean karvatha hain toh Naren ki andar ki Chandrika ki bone marrow ko kaise clean kiya . harish ko Pooja main ganda khoon nazar aatha hai so he doesn't wanted her to be near them than whey keeping Naren with them as Naren zinda only because of Chandrika's bone marrow , ungrateful people in which Naren too got added . I never saw him feeling grateful to chandrika as he is alive today only because of her in return she didn't take anything from Mahan family . kaun poochega Naren se Chandrika ki bonemarrow ko kis chees se clean kar ke body rakha as cleaning bohut zaroor hain for Naren .


bold: this is gold Sree. Naren seems to have conveniently forgotten that the same gandha koon that these people keep ranting about has actually saved Naren's life & is still running in his system. But who will ask him, harish and Supriya this question. The only people capable are Pooja, Mamaji & Dadaji, Pooja will not ask, she has decided to become the doormat, how I wish Dadaji asks this question to Naren after giving a tight slap to him. Jab apno se padthi hai tho dardh badi zooro se lagthi hai. Last time Mamaji gave a tight slap to Naren and questioned him in such a way that Naren drowned himself. This time I want Dadaji to do the honors pls. He should show the mirror to Naren.
Next time Naren is going to rant about gandha koon or Pooja & chandrika being tawaif, I want Dadaji to give one keeckhe in Naren's gaal and tell him that it's the very same tawaif's koon that saved his life and is still running inside him, for which he paid her nothing. So he better find ways to clean it up first before he raises his fingers at Pooja & chandrika.
This would at least redeem Dadaji a bit, coz right now even Dadaji in spite of his support to Pooja, comes across as selfish, he is silent when Naren is insulting Pooja & chandrika. Seems he cares only about his family, their reputation & Naren's emotions . What about Pooja & chandrika' self respect, emotions & happiness.
CVs pls make it happen...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Oh my God!!! You guys have stolen the words out of my mouth! You all are absolutely right.
Ganda khoon, najaiz, "unn"galliyon walay loag... My God! My head starts spinning whenever i hear these words from Harish and co. For God's sake makers...whats wrong with you? Naren, of all the people was INCAPABLE of thinking like that for the prostitutes and he was the one who took a stand for them in the rung gali wala track. I remember clearly that even now, after knowing Chandrika's id, and Pooja being najaiz, HE brought them home with RESPECT. His views changed when Chandrika was accused of beating Supriya. And thats when he, like a lunatic and emotional fool, asked Pooja to choose him or chandrika...which ofcourse was a very stupid thing to do... mager uss se bhi stupid harkat Pooja ki thy. She LEFT him just like that and in the process, making him feel like crap..which he deserves now totally by the way. 🤢
Yesterday i was thinking to stop watching this show as all my favrt.people like Naren, Pooja, Supriya, Harish have been butchered in characterization now. 😭
In my view, Pooja is right hote hue bhi wrong in many ways, and Naren is wrong hote hue bhi right sometimes. But still, it doesnt matter now as the aura now evoked from both of them is , "NOT MADE FOR EACH OTHER!" 😕 I really think they should never live together..instead go their spearate ways because Naa hi Pooja can go this self less and repect less forever, Naa hi Naren can keep punishing the whole world like he does whenever Pooja gives him a dhoka. 😛
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Doc.love

Oh my God!!! You guys have stolen the words out of my mouth! You all are absolutely right.

Ganda khoon, najaiz, "unn"galliyon walay loag... My God! My head starts spinning whenever i hear these words from Harish and co. For God's sake makers...whats wrong with you? Naren, of all the people was INCAPABLE of thinking like that for the prostitutes and he was the one who took a stand for them in the rung gali wala track. I remember clearly that even now, after knowing Chandrika's id, and Pooja being najaiz, HE brought them home with RESPECT. His views changed when Chandrika was accused of beating Supriya. And thats when he, like a lunatic and emotional fool, asked Pooja to choose him or chandrika...which ofcourse was a very stupid thing to do... mager uss se bhi stupid harkat Pooja ki thy. She LEFT him just like that and in the process, making him feel like crap..which he deserves now totally by the way. 🤢
Yesterday i was thinking to stop watching this show as all my favrt.people like Naren, Pooja, Supriya, Harish have been butchered in characterization now. 😭
In my view, Pooja is right hote hue bhi wrong in many ways, and Naren is wrong hote hue bhi right sometimes. But still, it doesnt matter now as the aura now evoked from both of them is , "NOT MADE FOR EACH OTHER!" 😕 I really think they should never live together..instead go their spearate ways because Naa hi Pooja can go this self less and repect less forever, Naa hi Naren can keep punishing the whole world like he does whenever Pooja gives him a dhoka. 😛


@ Bold exactly my point, they have generated so much of negativity between the leads that it's killing their chemistry. The writer should realize that the chemistry between lead couple are the ones which attract the viewers. People like to watch the drama enfolding the leads life which should include all elements of life, not just tragedy & sadness. The tricky situations created by the support cast is the drama. People like to watch when the lead couple crave to be together when every situation around them works in the opposite way..So if they have to attract the viewers then they need show the leads separated coz of others but still the two wanting to be together. They need to keep the love among the leads sacred. Keep some amount of positivity in the lead couple's life. The leads hating each other will not work always, it may work for a track, but not in every other track. They can be disappointed & angry with each other, but here in PA it aar ya paar, either it's extreme love that they start getting extremely emotional or extreme hate which is hell irritating. I am not asking the writers to load the episode with romance. That will get boring. But by filling the leads life with tragedy, bad luck, depression, hate they are just killing the chemistry or the interest in their relationship. The viewers instead of wanting them to be together may get tired of them & want them to just leave each other, so that they get relief from this daily dose of negativity.

Slight misunderstanding & cute nokh jokh will create viewers interest in the lead couple, but too much of hate between them will create only apathy & indifference. The earlier the writers learn this the better for the show.

I repeat it's going to be a year now, the days we have seen the leads cry, hate, feel depressed we're more than the days we saw them smile & happy, romance tho dhoor ki bath hai... I have to say, the show has done pretty well with such a tragic way of story telling. Credit goes to the actors..coz tragedy is not everyone's cup of tea.The show lost its last bit of positivity with end of Naren Pooja marriage track, after that it is just depression & negativity, but still post first leap track looked interesting, but with end of that track they should have brought some positivity & happiness in Naren & pooja's life, but they continued with sad & tragic tracks...thats exactly were they lost there marbles and also their hard earned Trps.

I feel sad as well as irritated with the writers. They could have done so much with the concept. They were drawing inspiration from various versions of Ramayan...the epic is such that it could be interpreted in a million ways, reason there are 300+ versions of the great epic. But the most popular are Tulsidas & Kambha Ramayan, even popular than Valmiki Ramayan, the only reason is that they are the most Positive interpretation of the grand epic.

Positivity always wins writers...inspite of all the negativity around we continue to flourish coz of our appetite to think & absorb positivity in the most negative situation. How I wish you could have drawn positive inspiration for the show from the epic, but you guys know what you did... and the result is in your hands.
Edited by anoosree - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anoosree


@ Bold exactly my point, they have generated so much of negativity between the leads that it's killing their chemistry. The writer should realize that the chemistry between lead couple are the ones which attract the viewers. People like to watch the drama enfolding the leads life which should include all elements of life, not just tragedy & sadness. The tricky situations created by the support cast is the drama. People like to watch when the lead couple crave to be together when every situation around them works in the opposite way..So if they have to attract the viewers then they need show the leads separated coz of others but still the two wanting to be together. They need to keep the love among the leads sacred. Keep some amount of positivity in the lead couple's life. The leads hating each other will not work always, it may work for a track, but not in every other track. They can be disappointed & angry with each other, but here in PA it aar ya paar, either it's extreme love that they start getting extremely emotional or extreme hate which is hell irritating. I am not asking the writers to load the episode with romance. That will get boring. But by filling the leads life with tragedy, bad luck, depression, hate they are just killing the chemistry or the interest in their relationship. The viewers instead of wanting them to be together may get tired of them & want them to just leave each other, so that they get relief from this daily dose of negativity.

Slight misunderstanding & cute nokh jokh will create viewers interest in the lead couple, but too much of hate between them will create only apathy & indifference. The earlier the writers learn this the better for the show.

I repeat it's going to be a year now, the days we have seen the leads cry, hate, feel depressed we're more than the days we saw them smile & happy, romance tho dhoor ki bath hai... I have to say, the show has done pretty well with such a tragic way of story telling. Credit goes to the actors..coz tragedy is not everyone's cup of tea.The show lost its last bit of positivity with end of Naren Pooja marriage track, after that it is just depression & negativity, but still post first leap track looked interesting, but with end of that track they should have brought some positivity & happiness in Naren & pooja's life, but they continued with sad & tragic tracks...thats exactly were they lost there marbles and also their hard earned Trps.

I feel sad as well as irritated with the writers. They could have done so much with the concept. They were drawing inspiration from various versions of Ramayan...the epic is such that it could be interpreted in a million ways, reason there are 300+ versions of the great epic. But the most popular are Tulsidas & Kambha Ramayan, even popular then Valmiki Ramayan, the only reason is that they are the most Positive interpretation of the grand epic.

Positivity always wins writers...inspite of all the negativity around we continue to flourish coz of our appetite to think & absorb positivity in the most negative situation. How I wish you could have drawn positive inspiration for the show from the epic, but you guys know what you did... and the result is in your hands.


Very well said.. 👏 I agree with you on almost all the points. Just want to a couple of things. Negative and tragic stories are palatable only when there is atleast one person doing something good or positive. In PA, its all black or different shades of gray... no one is white. (Fifty shades of grey in Vyas mansion! 😉🥱)
I dont know much about Ramayan except for the versions i have read or watched on TV, so i dont know about Tulsidas,Kambha,Valmiki. But i do know that PA was supposed to be inspired from Vishwamitra and Menka's story. What i have read so far about them, there were some positive days in their lives also.. while here, there is not an ounce of positivity left in Naren-Pooja's life...or in the show as such.
I loved this show because of its concept... I loved the characters , even Rahul,Neelu and surbhi. I even liked Gurujee to some extent. So its not about the villains of the show who are bringing negativity. Unfortuntely its the LEAD COUPLE that has been butchered by the writers.. 😭 There could have been so many potential plots...but no.. they have chosen this route.. and frankly in real life also, I dont think a couple can survive such a toxic relationship. So I just cannot relate with the fiction they are showing on TV in PA these days. And this all has led me to believe that the end game of Naren Pooja will be an eventual separation, and an unfulfilled love story that will end in tragedy. 😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Doc.love. They sold the story saying vishwamithra Menaka story, coz they can't say it's inspired from Ramayana...it will land them in controversy. People are touchy about such things. But I know for sure PA at large is inspired from Ramayana. It's not traditional Ramayana that we to get to see in TV shows or movies, it's like they have played around with various versions..like one track inspired from one version, the other track inspired from another version. It's not a rip off so yeah I had no issues with that, epic is such that it needs to be interpreted in different ways to understand the essence of it. It was not created at the first place to be taken at face value or word by word...there is a lot of underlying meanings and messages to be read in between words & sentence. So yeah I am completely ok if the show is inspired from the epic. My disappointment with the writers is they played around with it NEGATIVELY. The reason why PA is NEGATIVITY galore.

When we read Romeo Juliet, we can see it as an epic love story glorying love or a tragic love story glorifying tragedy, so how we interpret it depends on our perspective. Negative interpretations leads to negative understanding & influences and positive interpretation leads to positive understanding & influences.

Like yesterday's Naren's dialogue moukha writers ke pass ek pyaarise love story with lots of drama dikhane ka bhe tha, pur unhone yeh raastha chuna.' Ab kare tho kya karen.

I agree with you there is nothing positive about PA, and some where I believe that this was deliberate. It's not like they didn't know how negatively they were tweaking the story, giving negative shades to every positive character, turning them villains, anti heroes, but it seems like they knew what they were doing... so that's why I said such story telling is not everyone's cup of tea.

We read a book, watch a show or movie for entertainment and entertainment should have all elements of life to make it interesting. Tragedy & negativity is only one aspect of life, you can't tweak an entire show tragically and fill it with negativity and expect the viewers to get entertained, right!!! The show did this far with this kind of writing, I am surprised.

Yeah your are right they are making Naren and Pooja toxic to each other, probably that's the message they want to send that though they love each other still they are not compatible/meant to stay with each other and want to separate them once for all. May be just may be that's what the writers have in mind...

The concept had so many potential to be explored in a different & positive way, but the writers chose to take it this way intentionally, probably they themselves are not aiming for high Trps. They know better.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anoosree

@Doc.love. They sold the story saying vishwamithra Menaka story, coz they can't say it's inspired from Ramayana...it will land them in controversy. People are touchy about such things. But I know for sure PA at large is inspired from Ramayana. It's not traditional Ramayana that we to get to see in TV shows or movies, it's like they have played around with various versions..like one track inspired from one version, the other track inspired from another version. It's not a rip off so yeah I had no issues with that, epic is such that it needs to be interpreted in different ways to understand the essence of it. It was not created at the first place to be taken at face value or word by word...there is a lot of underlying meanings and messages to be read in between words & sentence. So yeah I am completely ok if the show is inspired from the epic. My disappointment with the writers is they played around with it NEGATIVELY. The reason why PA is NEGATIVITY galore.

I agree with you there is nothing positive about PA, and some where I believe that this was deliberate. It's not like they didn't know how negatively they were tweaking the story, giving negative shades to every positive character, turning them villains, anti heroes, but it seems like they knew what they were doing... so that's why I said such story telling is not everyone's cup of tea.

We read a book, watch a show or movie for entertainment and entertainment should have all elements of life to make it interesting. Tragedy & negativity is only one aspect of life, you can't tweak an entire show tragically and fill it with negativity and expect the viewers to get entertained, right!!! The show did this far with this kind of writing, I am surprised.

Yeah your are right they are making Naren and Pooja toxic to each other, probably that's the message they want to send that though they love each other still they are not compatible/meant to stay with each other and want to separate them once for all. May be just may be that's what the writers have in mind...

The concept had so many potential to be explored in a different & positive way, but the writers chose to take it this way intentionally, probably they themselves are not aiming for high Trps. They know better.


Thank you soo much anoosree for letting me know about the epic and different aspects of Ramayana.
You are right... The writers have incorporated so much negativity that it doesnt look like they will end up showing a positive end to this story.
And you are right about this type of writing getting so far as it is! Its really surprising, and i feel that Akshay, Sheen and other actors are responsible for still instilling some life in the dead show (or maybe a dying show). I reallly want to quit the show, but i just keep coming back to it because of one thing or the other! 😛😭 Just watched the new promo of the maha episode and want to kill naren by chunaofying HIM in that deewar!
I think the matter at the core is : The makers are deliberately doing all this... this is supposed to be a tragic tale.. and i think we should make ourselves hard and proof against it now.. 😕
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Doc.love


Thank you soo much anoosree for letting me know about the epic and different aspects of Ramayana.
You are right... The writers have incorporated so much negativity that it doesnt look like they will end up showing a positive end to this story.
And you are right about this type of writing getting so far as it is! Its really surprising, and i feel that Akshay, Sheen and other actors are responsible for still instilling some life in the dead show (or maybe a dying show). I reallly want to quit the show, but i just keep coming back to it because of one thing or the other! 😛😭 Just watched the new promo of the maha episode and want to kill naren by chunaofying HIM in that deewar!
I think the matter at the core is : The makers are deliberately doing all this... this is supposed to be a tragic tale.. and i think we should make ourselves hard and proof against it now.. 😕


I will get surprised if they show a positive end... being a sucker for positivity I still heart of heart want to see things turning better between Pooja and Naren and their love story start, coz so far, the writers never explored their love in a pleasant way.

When we re write Romeo Juliet, we can write it as an epic love story glorying love or as a tragic love story glorifying tragedy, so how we interpret it depends on our perspective. Negative interpretations leads to negative understanding & influences and positive interpretation leads to positive understanding & influences.

Like yesterday's Naren's dialogue moukha writers ke pass ek pyaarise love story with lots of drama dikhane ka bhe tha, pur unhone yeh raastha chuna.' Ab kare tho kya Karen.

Agree the actors are amazing they have awesome energy and chemistry but the script is not doing justice to them...Akshay has the style and charm to create a flamboyant hero character I think he will suit KRISHNA more than Rama, 😆but here they are hell bent in making him a anti hero and both Akshay Sheen have beautiful chemistry to create a magical love fantasy but they are coming up with tragic love story...kya bathayee..

Never go by the promos and don't take it literally, they are so misleading... I hate these promos.

Don't know what mahaepisode has in store, but yeah Pooja won't die, either we will see a change in Naren or Pooja might loose her hope on Naren and leave him once for all. Well I am ok with both. Ab itna negativity dikha diya hai, tho isse zyadha aur kya dikaenge.
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