The Epic Uncertainty that is the Storytelling

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey everyone, I don't post in this forum much anymore but those of you active on twitter may recognize me as Ruby. I'm the one always writing those daily sarcastic episode tweets 😆. Anyways I promised a friend a few weeks ago that I would create a topic for her and after today's episode, I feel that time has come.

The premise of the vanvaas track for me was exciting. Shivaay, the great foundation of the family was leaving. It would the first time that the Oberoi family would be alone without Shivaay who formed the foundation. In my eyes, I felt it would allow the opportunity for Om and Rudra to grow into more independent personalities and to be able to learn how to handle burdens on their own. Meanwhile Shivaay would learn the harsh reality that even though his family means the world to him, it's not necessarily true that the same would be reciprocated back. Trp audiences agreed. And they sent the ratings back to 2.0, a number we haven't seen in a very long time. There was excellent drama that tuned people in. And everyone in the cast had a part to play.

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I think the fall in the story happened right after the actual vanvaas. When they immediately shifted from the drama element right into Shivika directly setting up house in Goa. That was not so that we could see how Shivika set up their new lives but to really just fast-track into the Raavan track. The Raavan track that has since started showed an interesting premise. But despite the potential, it also revealed many inconsistencies, and I think it is these inconsistencies within all the characters that have led to the current downward trp trend:

*Anika who was so proud of being herself and not needing to fit in to be accepted suddenly went on a bizarre "GL" track. So much so that CVs forgot that Anika knew how to do basic things like cleaning a house or cleaning the floors from before and showed her as useless in these respects.

*Anika who battles her fears head on suddenly became weak. She couldn't determine on her own how to trap Komal. She effectively became the damsel in distress which is far from her character sketch

*I enjoyed that Shivaay trusted her when she lost faith and reassured her countless times. But why did they drag the NDEs for so long? And that too in the same predictable pattern: Anika sees Komal, Shivaay runs to her and finds no one there.

*Shivaay is shown to have blind trust in Veer - what on earth has Veer done at this point to have earned such blind trust?

*The next door neighbor has planted cameras in the house to spy on his neighbor's wife. And plants NDE attacks on her over and over again with his fake wife and real wife in order to try to make her look insane. Yeah, I'm not really sure that's something a happy family wants to see at night

*OmRu aren't even standing up to Tej even though they have the majority shares. OmRu will cry about old toys rather than tell their father off. Om in particular has had a very rough relationship with his father and yet he hasn't really said much to Tej.

*Rudy was told several times that he had to man up since Shivaay was leaving. Yet he's been pretty much crying in the background

*Tia breaking up Rikara - this makes no sense at all

*Tej and the whole batwaara issue. They really didn't do anything except for the whole flour on the ground sequence 😆

*There have been no real scenes of Pinky and Shakti attempting to interact with their son

*Jhanvi is suddenly the "evil saas" blaming Gauri for all the Oberoi's problems

*Dadi who is quick to act whenever Pinky or Jhanvi react inappropriately, has said barely a thing to Tej

*And the idea of a "vanvaas", that the pain of the separation was that Shivaay was going to be "gone" for good. Here the OBros are dropping into Goa as if Shivaay lives next door 😆

**Today's epic sequence: Veer injects Anika and paralyzes her. And apparently Anika loses all of her senses, including her ability to hear. Like what😆

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I guess all I'm trying to say is...a show is strongest when its characters are at their strongest. That's why the introduction of the vanvaas track brought back so many viewers. It was carefully written and there was potential there for all the characters, both the major and minor, to explore. What was the point of this vanvaas story? Seems like all that happened was that bhoot-ish fantasies were explored instead. We have this weird mess of a vanvaas sequence and now we're quickly nose-diving into a sudden Ruvya wedding out of the blue. What on earth is happening 😆



Note: I don't want to pit fandoms against each other. Rather I wanted to talk in general about how lazy the writing has gotten. And how all of the characters are not acting like themselves. I want to keep this topic as neutral as possible...as long as I can at least😆

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Posted: 7 years ago
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The Tanya track was a major put off for me. Even the "willing suspension of disbelief" while enjoying fiction concept couldn't excuse that pathetic track. I think the plot of IB derailed with the introduction of Fireboy Abhay and his whiny wife, Tanya. Even the once-in-a-while hidden romance between Shivaay and Anika couldn't save the serial for me.
The Rikara breakup and Bareilly track brought me back. They were brilliantly written. The scenes were tight and compact. The acting was out of this world. All three couples had their space, roles and dialogues. I was a happy camper. And then it went downhill again.

The Shivaay-Anika SR was postponed so long that... Khair chodo.

I agree with all your points on the Vanvas track. The very purpose of the track has been lost. Doesn't make any sense.

Are Rudy and Soumya divorced?😆 Or is Rudy going to commit bigamy with an ex-ACP? LOL!

As I commented elsewhere, I hope Mahi returns. He was one solid character, great fun to watch. And if Soumya is not to be paired with Rudy, I hope they pair her with Mahi. They are both loving and protective people desperately in need of some TLC.

The actor playing Veer is fantastic, esp with his Haryanvi dialogues. But the plot...sigh!

BTW, any idea where Sultan-Sultana is?😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: smitar

The Tanya track was a major put off for me. Even the "willing suspension of disbelief" while enjoying fiction concept couldn't excuse that pathetic track. I think the plot of IB derailed with the introduction of Fireboy Abhay and his whiny wife, Tanya. Even the once-in-a-while hidden romance between Shivaay and Anika couldn't save the serial for me.

The Rikara breakup and Bareilly track brought me back. They were brilliantly written. The scenes were tight and compact. The acting was out of this world. All three couples had their space, roles and dialogues. I was a happy camper. And then it went downhill again.

The Shivaay-Anika SR was postponed so long that... Khair chodo.

I agree with all your points on the Vanvas track. The very purpose of the track has been lost. Doesn't make any sense.

Are Rudy and Soumya divorced?😆 Or is Rudy going to commit bigamy with an ex-ACP? LOL!

As I commented elsewhere, I hope Mahi returns. He was one solid character, great fun to watch. And if Soumya is not to be paired with Rudy, I hope they pair her with Mahi. They are both loving and protective people desperately in need of some TLC.

The actor playing Veer is fantastic, esp with his Haryanvi dialogues. But the plot...sigh!

BTW, any idea where Sultan-Sultana is?😆


I just realized I forgot to mention the epic paralysis injection sequence from today. Where Anika remembered nothing after being startled awake😆


As far as the storylines go, the Abhay Tanya track was also an exercise in true patience. I agree, I was in the same boat as I had waited so long for that separation drama to resolve but right after Shivika's remarriage, Shivaay disappeared for 2 weeks only to come back with a new wife. It was pretty hard to look at the show in the same vein after that lol

Officially, no I don't think they're divorced. Which also made today's episode totally weird😆

Nope, I have no clue😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The entire vanvaas track never and still doesn't make sense to me ! Yes ppl tuned in to watch shivaay leave the house but we recently got 2 with the barielly track which had less drama and more family and couples which I believe was d better track and it shows you can bring in the TRPs with 3 equal couples who have equal ss !

For me the feeling of vanvaas ended when they showed OmRu crying in OM and shivika dancing in SM .. this is no hate to d couple but to the writers and editors... yes is still doesn't make sense y OmRu just pitched up in Goa ! Y have a vanvaas if u can just meet up ? Or talk on the phone and stuff ? Omkara's lack of reaction isn't new ! Rikara and Om fans have been complaining since swetlana arrived and he hardly gave any reaction when Gauri got locked or during Rudras bomb scare ! We have been complaining but no one listens so Ders not much we can do anymore ! Tia drama is useless ! So many fans have wanted OmRu to progress on their own but the dialogues given to them were mostly about shivaay and Anika ! The raavan track is just logicless ! Nothing makes any sense
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think what killed it for me was the Pia track. I don't think I've felt as sick watching ANY other track in IB. What was worse is how they tried to justify it in the end. To this day, I haven't watched that episode where Annika is justifying Shivaay. Because we all know things would've been different had Annika been in Shivaay's shoes.

Bareilly track - despite the hate it gets - had one of the best and most authentic ShivIka tracks. And they had equal SS with the others too. Vanvaas beginning was awesome. Hands down the best fam drama I've seen in IB

Right now, the makers have no idea what they're doing. They seem to be desperately trying to keep the actors while trying to raise TRPs. Where they're at story-wise, it can be a bit difficult, esp with them changing tracks midway ALL the time. Veer ka overdose ho raha hai because all he does is stare at the laptop screen and talk to himself. Meh whatever. I don't even bother to watch OM scenes. Lately, I've been FFing epis and watching in 5 mins. Glad to report my addiction is up, too 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think the main issue is that the minor characters cannot seem to function at all without Shivika.😕 So much so that they have to always be interjected into Shivika plotline to be able to function. That is why the whole vanvaas falls flat and the relationships ring hollow. Like you said, OBros are dropping into Goa every other day as if nothing ever happened! Why aren't their parents condemning them?😕
How exactly are we supposed to believe that their relationships have become strained?

And why on Earth are Ruvya getting married in Goa, when I'm assuming most of their friends and family live in Mumbai?🤔
I beg to differ on the Raavan plot, I could see it getting messy since the beginning. These bhootiya plots always end up being horrendous, especially in Gul's shows but she always insists on throwing them in.😆 But Shivaay trusting Veer blindly is no inconsistency cuz he's always been shown to trust ppl with NKK and that is a part of his character that will never change unfortunately.


W.r.t. to Anika, initially the GL trope was funny...but then it became so dragged out and redundant. It definitely does not work well as a 'comic relief' as the writers seem to project it.🥱

I'm 50/50 on the whole damsel in distress thing cuz I don't fully agree that she became weak. Yes, Anika has always fought her battles head on but she has always had a streak of vulnerability which was exposed fully first time Daksh attacked her and this time the string of attacks are similar in tone. And I think her fear of darkness has also rendered her more vulnerable at times, which I feel the writers should explore better. And just like Shivaay saved her during Daksh attacks, he is saving her again. This has always been a standard trope with Shivika.


And I think its pointless to expect OmRu to stand up to their parents or develop as characters cuz they can't even function without being interjected into Shivika plot. Which is annoying because they seem to always drag down Shivika. Shivika were doing so well initially in the vanvaas when they were on their own and we didn't have a bunch of minor characters dragging them down.🤔 Sorry if this hurts ppl and I realise it is not the politically correct thing to say, but it's how I feel.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Totally!

The Vanvaas feels watered down and the Ruvya Shaadi just ended it for me.

To be honest, the villain overdose and win doesn't seem to work anymore. It wasn't even interesting. Tia won and it just pushed Rikara to Shivika, when literally everyone asked for them to be separated. It's counter productive. I think they should have stopped showing Tia and started focusing on drama between the family, which seemed way more interesting then forcing Tia into a forced bond with TejVi and those two having absolute faith in someone that tried to ruin their lives.

It's just a mess now. No way to fix it. Now, like the separation track, the scenes will now work against the villains and show them losing instead of the heroes. Like how Annika suddenly started talking back to Pinky, OmRu will magically start talking back to TejVi

I think I agree with some fans who think Shivaay's greatness is overdone. Much to my distaste, it's as though he's being overglorified. This track will end with Shivaay setting everything straight and that he ultimately protected everyone and set the house together again. Maybe I'm wrong on that. You can debate me on this.

I think OmRu and Gauri should have fought against TejVi a lot more instead of trying to expose Tia. The internal conflict within the family seemed more interesting to me, I can't understand why they ignored the oppourtunity to explore so much. Especially Om and Jhanvi's twisted relationship.

Awesome post, Ruby!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree 100% with each and everybody comment.1/2 hr show started off with Bareilly track and Rikara reunion.Next they brought Pia track which was a bad move by the CVs. Suhaag Raat track was overdone. It was cringe worthy.
Vanvaas track was ok with shivaay leaving the house.Abhay disappeared after a single episode.

After this veer track was introduced they totally forgot to show OM scenes. Even this track.is taking the show to a downhill.

Bringing a popular actor alone will not help. A show needs a proper story.

Rival show has got average looking actors but still maintaining slot leader position
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IB has such talented bunch of actors but they are not able to do justice to their talents.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@zara1ksg..

Each person has their own way of coping with the situation...And Shivaay and Annika are trying to live it their own way...You will understand that if you have really watched the episode of the so called dance of Shivika...the pain of leaving their loved ones is embedded in their souls...and they are living with it that pain...

let's not forget here that they were forced out of OM...and as if now there is no hope for them to ever go back to OM...but they try to smile in spite of all the pain...they are trying to become strong so as to be the support for each other...

Happy wala scenes were for cheering each other up...Annika has done that to cheer Shivaay many times...and it happened when Shivaay realized that Annika is in pain too...Shivaay and Annika are dancing and singing doesn't mean they are happy and enjoying honeymoon...it means they are burying the pain deep inside and living...

About the pain OmRu are in... Shivaay was forced to walk out of OM by Tejvi...far away from the family that really belongs to Shivaay more than Tejvi ever could claim...away from the family that Shivaay and Annika loves with whole heart...it's obvious that OmRu would be burdened by what their parents did...

And also OmRu are the ones who are entrusted upon by their brother to take care of their family in his absence...And that family is breaking into pieces...right before their eyes and they are unable to do anything...there is hatred everywhere...there is bitterness everywhere...their is hurt everywhere...Wouldn't OmRu feel defeated...and feel that they have failed their own brother...?

Agreed to what you said...This dropping in of OmRu in Goa is kinda ruining the vanvaas...but then again..what other options do they have...show a fully blown fight between the three brothers...?so that they wouldn't want to talk or even look at each other...?

This is 21st century...and it's not like they can show the shivika vanvaas to the t and that too without any contact with the brothers...communication tho zaroor hoga he na...

Hopefully Rikara visit to Goa would be Just for Ruvya track...they can't leave OM like this particularly when the family is breaking...Maybe we will see a Om and Gauri returning back to OM to deal with all the issues there with new vigour...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The vanwas was indeed a joke 😆- the real vanwas is betwee
Shivika and khanna now 😆 or shivika n OM now 😆
I was completely disappointed at the OM-wasis reactions post shivika left OM

Dadi gives big bhashan but she never says anything to Tej... like how idiotic can that be?
Jhanvi is acting like an obsessed wife forgetting even her sons now
Tinky fights make more sense than Tia's attacks

And best what separation? What pain of obros separation? Every 2-3 days they end up in shivika mansion now 😆

We have obtained some lovely shivika scenes since this goa track started, but we also need a story now! Not fake bhoot... besides till now torturing annika has never ever given rise in trps- one can refer to both daksh's tracks, pinky torturing annika, not even NDEs attempts from Tia made trps increase... yet the CVs thought to drag making annika mad for 3 weeks 😆
Problem is CVs tend to go to extremes when torturing annika, but the end result is just bleh!
Just imagine annika was tortured so much, yet next day CVs didn't even deem a conversation important for shivika to discuss about their unknown enemy! Annika was probably paralysed for an hour at least, but none thought it strange at all😆

Though I have particularly loved Every time SSO comforted annika- this was actually given like 5 or more times in 3 weeks now 😆

I understand that Lee was on holidays n mansi busy with another show, but that doesn't mean CVs just dump them suddenly with an ILU and marriage track now n that too in goa 😆... shouldn't there has been a better build-up... n why did cvs even bring soumya back now...

Veer and the actor playing it is very good, but can veer use his brains than chemical or science-fiction attacks😆

Anyway point be the CVs have always disappointed us many times with many plots... majority of us still here are due to our love for shivika now. At least I watch this show only for narbhi/shivika... but let's see for how long CVs will think they can depend just on shivika's cute unique appeal to maintain viewers than actually writing a real track for them 😆

Ending on community scenes ki jai ho now 😆

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