The Epic Uncertainty that is the Storytelling - Page 3

Originally posted by: charismatic-gem

I was thinking about other shows that I've really liked in the past, and what I realized is that the shows that I've really liked were shows that had a really strong supporting cast. Where every character at least as a scope to do something. And then you have IB here where someone like Shakti will go for months without saying anything substantial, hence that whole "Bhaisaab please" has become such a fandom trope

Great shows often have a really good supporting cast...which IB somewhat does with Nitika Anand and Mahesh Thakur and even Leenesh. That's why I feel that vanvaas track started out really well initially cuz they all gave stellar performances alongside SC-NM. Stellar performances have always saved IB, cuz lets be honest...it has always had a mediocre script. That's nothing new.

+ Not giving supporting characters anything to do is just lazy writing.

OmRu are dropping into Goa and their parents aren't saying anything is just so odd. Really Tej should be giving them ultimatums to choose the Oberois vs Shivaay. It's only Gauri at home who is getting the taunts from TejVi. There's a sudden one-mistake policy in OM now where once a mistake is done, Tej will do that person's shraadh😕 But Tej himself who has been oscillating between wife and mistress since the beginning of the show expects to be forgiven for his actions.I do agree like if OmRu were allowed to be stronger characters, they would be interjected less into the Shivika plotlines.

It's not necessary that they have to be strong. It's more about stepping up to the challenge or at least trying to...Characters can be feeble and yet find their own niche to grow and contribute something meaningful to the overall storyline.

I watched QH (unfortunately), that's why I called this track "QH-esque". I had to take the episodes on a day to day basis, because I was so hot and cold with them, but I figured hey if the trp audience likes it, then I can't really complain...well whaddya know😆

Lol, same...that is why I was weary of the Raavan track since the beginning😆

I agree that initially Anika is vulnerable in certain situations, such as her fear of the dark. But once the NDE's became repetitive, it was a bit odd that she wasn't shown brainstorming a trap with Shivaay. Especially when the bluetooth idea worked immediately.

Hmm. I didn't expect so much of her cuz I thought the repeated attacks probably took a toll on her both mentally and physically. I personally like that she shows her vulnerability in such situations, it makes her more relatable.

With Shivaay, he does trust people with NKK. But even if they're strangers. I'm reminded of that line he said to Prinku's husband (forgot his name😆): that he's not so forward with people he doesn't know

Ah, okay.

Why is the wedding in Goa? Destination wedding😆...that's the only possible explanation that I can come up with lol

Hahah, that was meant to be a rhetorical question.😆

Originally posted by: --Risha--

@CG and Ruz

You know had they continued to follow the original Ramayan story as they have been, it would've gone really really well but it's the way they don't have the commitment to see a track through is what puts me off. If you've started something do try and end it, at least!

Anyway, I honestly believe IB hasn't got long. May be March-April (which frankly, is stretching it) but if that is the case, then I want HS to write like her life depended on it, like she'll never again pick up a pen. And without caring for TRPs please. Give her at least that much freedom now that the end may be near. Forget about salvaging the show and try to salvage the characters. Leave us with an ending we'll forever cherish <3

Sorry for getting a bit senti 😆

Originally posted by: --Risha--

@CG and Ruz

You know had they continued to follow the original Ramayan story as they have been, it would've gone really really well but it's the way they don't have the commitment to see a track through is what puts me off. If you've started something do try and end it, at least!

Anyway, I honestly believe IB hasn't got long. May be March-April (which frankly, is stretching it) but if that is the case, then I want HS to write like her life depended on it, like she'll never again pick up a pen. And without caring for TRPs please. Give her at least that much freedom now that the end may be near. Forget about salvaging the show and try to salvage the characters. Leave us with an ending we'll forever cherish <3

Sorry for getting a bit senti 😆

Originally posted by: Felicity1234

The vanwas was indeed a joke 😆- the real vanwas is betwee

Shivika and khanna now 😆 or shivika n OM now 😆

I was completely disappointed at the OM-wasis reactions post shivika left OM

Dadi gives big bhashan but she never says anything to Tej... like how idiotic can that be?

Jhanvi is acting like an obsessed wife forgetting even her sons now

Tinky fights make more sense than Tia's attacks

And best what separation? What pain of obros separation? Every 2-3 days they end up in shivika mansion now 😆

We have obtained some lovely shivika scenes since this goa track started, but we also need a story now! Not fake bhoot... besides till now torturing annika has never ever given rise in trps- one can refer to both daksh's tracks, pinky torturing annika, not even NDEs attempts from Tia made trps increase... yet the CVs thought to drag making annika mad for 3 weeks 😆

Problem is CVs tend to go to extremes when torturing annika, but the end result is just bleh!

Just imagine annika was tortured so much, yet next day CVs didn't even deem a conversation important for shivika to discuss about their unknown enemy! Annika was probably paralysed for an hour at least, but none thought it strange at all😆

Though I have particularly loved Every time SSO comforted annika- this was actually given like 5 or more times in 3 weeks now 😆

I understand that Lee was on holidays n mansi busy with another show, but that doesn't mean CVs just dump them suddenly with an ILU and marriage track now n that too in goa 😆... shouldn't there has been a better build-up... n why did cvs even bring soumya back now...

Veer and the actor playing it is very good, but can veer use his brains than chemical or science-fiction attacks😆

Anyway point be the CVs have always disappointed us many times with many plots... majority of us still here are due to our love for shivika now. At least I watch this show only for narbhi/shivika... but let's see for how long CVs will think they can depend just on shivika's cute unique appeal to maintain viewers than actually writing a real track for them 😆

Ending on community scenes ki jai ho now 😆

Originally posted by: shewolf.

I have been wanting to discuss the vanvaas from some time now and.. here we go.

First off as you said a lot of people came back to watch IB for the track but if you look closely you'll see even the start of the vanvaas was really really weak plot wise. You never jump into the track head first. Every track is always started as a sub to the previous and then brought to the front when the other is resolved. There's always an intro - conflict - resolution.

The intro was weak, the main chunk that had to establish the track wasn't on a solid foundation, but people bought it cause no matter how weak the script was the performance were top notch by everyone. But does that save a show. no. The characters are never the king of the story it's always the script.

I am somebody who has fought with her family and lived in a hostel to study way down in Coimbatore, and I am from Mumbai. And mind you I'm one of the most detached person you'll ever meet and I remember spending months being home sick. But I do agree everyone has their own way of dealing with it. And this is just something I had a problem with. LOL ignore that.

But anyway I was really looking forward to the use of METAPHORS and FORESHADOWING. why the caps and the bold and italics? b/c these are such important terms when it comes to script and storytelling. These are such beautiful enhancements that you add the story but they should never be in your face. That spoils the beauty of things.

I mean seriously even though Ram left Ayodhya the kingdom still stood for 14 years. The fact that the entire Okhandan is dependant to such an extent on Shivaay is so laughable and so wrong character wise. All the characters in the OM are their own person before being related to each other. The fact that they cannot function is such a huge character assassination of all them just to make one look good.

And the second being Ravan, even though Ravan is portrayed as a villain he waited till the end for Sita to give up on Ram, even though he kidnapped her, he never once touched a single hair on Sita. And here we have Veer. This takes disappointment to a whole other level.

You never use metaphors that way. If I were to submit this script for my script and storyboard evaluation, I'd straight up get a course repeat or they'll send me back to foundation year.

So when I see this being written by people who have had years of experience in handling different shows do such injustice to a script it actually makes me question if they really know what they're doing.

I can go on and on about things but well this is getting too long and I have work left to do so.. I'll write more later.

Peace.