What alternate reality is this?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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LOL I'm truly amazed reading the arguments in this forum...I probably shouldn't be but someone has to pause and go WOW😆

When did this suddenly become about ANIKA being the injured party? SHE'S the one who FORCED Shivaay to break their relationship and now SHE'S the victim?😕😆...Shivaay wanting to know the truth is WRONG? 😕😆...A person should just keep moving through life not even wanting to know the reason for such a SEISMIC shift in a relationship? They have no right to even ASK? That makes things "conditional"? Wow there's a whole new dictionary out here with otherworldly definitions😆


"She told him once, that's good enough, now he knows there was a BIG reason for what she did so everything's good, just go back to how it was"😕😆...Do people even HEAR themselves when they write this? 😆...


Oh and Rags hanging around OM makes everything Shivaay's great big sin while Anika throwing a fiance in his face first to make him jealous doesn't count at all😆...Shivaay breaking down in front of Anika doesn't count for anything other than to show that she was "right" not to tell him and should never tell him again?😕😆


This is STILL all SHIVAAY'S fault? 🤣...HE'S the one who needs to ask her NICELY even if she's busy lying to him, not giving him the truth and then BLAMING him for the fake engagement she herself is lying about? HE's the one who needs to give her some grand lowe declaration for her to feel "respected" while she ofcourse is showing him SO much "respect" by lying to his face😆...this is people's definition of Shivaay getting a taste of his own medicine? ROFL then what was seperation day? How long is this "taste of his own medicine" thing supposedly going on from and it's still not enough for bloodthirsty fangirls? 😆


When this is the expectation that WOMEN have of another woman's behavior, what can one even say to men who stereotype women as manipulative shrews?


What we actually have here are two people with literally zero respect for their relationship right now and a fandom that is off on unbelievably delusional trips...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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No comments and i have no idea what exactly you read😆
but as always Harneet and her arcs, we probably arent intelligent at all, that's why we arent understanding a thing at all lately😆

we should eat more badams on a daily basis now😆

i'm not gonna get into who is wrong or more wrong, the story itself is messed up completely now🥱
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashti1234

No comments and i have no idea what exactly you read😆

but as always Harneet and her arcs, we probably arent intelligent at all, that's why we arent understanding a thing at all lately😆

we should eat more badams on a daily basis now😆

i'm not gonna get into who is wrong or more wrong, the story itself is messed up completely now🥱



LOL these same arguments are being made in multiple threads blaming Shivaay for not giving "unconditional" love to Anika and not just letting go of wanting the truth...😆...I'm truly amazed at how skewed perceptions are.


Obviously story is messed up but people still finding weird ways to justify Anika and blame the whole thing on Shivaay truly astounds me...like women themselves seem to think that basic INTEGRITY is not needed in a woman's character...LOL just blame it all on the man always as a default even when he isn't fully at fault for once...truth doesn't even matter...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post! Sums up everything that I have been feeling for the past few days. 👏
If I go by some people's logic, then this should be the scenario. I suddenly have a forced break up initiated by my bf despite loving each other. But after a few days he comes back to me seeing me broken. I get to know there must be some big reason for him leaving me & it is about me. So I forgive him & we get back together without even knowing & resolving the issue. And this is called unconditional love. 😆
So Shivaay shouldn't know the reason, & they shouldn't even solve the problem what led to the separation so that such things can happen again in the future Right?
Also Shivaay has every right to know about the truth. It is his matter to deal. Why is Annika not telling him. What does she want to protect him from when Shivaay himself said what matters is she? So Annika is scared because Shivaay broke down & cried? What did she expect? A stoic expression from him? 😆 When has crying become scary? Did he try to commit suicide then that Annika should be scared? In that case Shivaay should be more scared because Annika cries a lot. 😆

This justification to every action of what women do in the shows has led to the poor development of women characters. Agar audience hi nahi chahte ki women characters evolve to makers kyun dikhaye?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My commenting is usually restricted to your threads while I do sometimes glance around the forum.
While I am beyond pissed at Gul and Harneet for taking the show for a ride and above all treating the audience as a joke.

I for one have always been biased to Anika because SC plays her so well, yet in this current mess , I cannot help but facepalm at her stupidity.

Let this be known. love, relationship is NOT UNCONDITIONAL. Ever. Fiction or Real life. These conditions are basic respect, communication, opinions ..and also the socio-environmental ones.

Here a guy lost his wife because his whole family is busy playing hide-n-seek and treating him with kid gloves. Anika made a decision for Shivaay about his existence without him knowing. That is not love but stupidity. There is no avoiding this dard and who is to say the actions of Anika and OM Bros haven't messed his head all this while.
There was no reason or depth to Anika's decision but contriving plot device , to drag the show and to sell the idea of "mahaan" , unspoken dard ka ehsaas wala pyaar because audience will live it through the metaphors that need to be conjured from thin air in order to defend the loopholes and inconsistency of writing.

I don't get the fiance mess that Anika has dug herself into but all this probably will kill any guy who if somesay is madly "unconditionally" in luvvv with the girl.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Tanu...

Awesome post! Sums up everything that I have been feeling for the past few days. 👏

If I go by some people's logic, then this should be the scenario. I suddenly have a forced break up initiated by my bf despite loving each other. But after a few days he comes back to me seeing me broken. I get to know there must be some big reason for him leaving me & it is about me. So I forgive him & we get back together without even knowing & resolving the issue. And this is called unconditional love. 😆 Yep, that's what "TRUE lowe" looks like according to some people here😆😆


So Shivaay shouldn't know the reason, & they shouldn't even solve the problem what led to the separation so that such things can happen again in the future Right? Right...he should just chill out...why so much stress? Itni chhoti si toh baat hai...oh and apparently it's not Anika's truth to tell...😆...why try to solve any problem? Status quo for the win...subah utho, coffee peeyo, let Anika do wifely chores in your room...all izz well...oh but wait, there's just ONE thing he should have done that he didn't do so that makes him the WORST person ever...he should have IMMEDIATELY kicked Rags out the moment he found out there was some BIG reason for what Anika did even if Anika isn't gonna tell him...that would have fixed everything😆


Also Shivaay has every right to know about the truth. It is his matter to deal. Why is Annika not telling him. What does she want to protect him from when Shivaay himself said what matters is she? So Annika is scared because Shivaay broke down & cried? What did she expect? A stoic expression from him? 😆 When has crying become scary? Did he try to commit suicide then that Annika should be scared? In that case Shivaay should be more scared because Annika cries a lot. 😆 ROFL@ he should be more scared...yeah so true...if someone's crying is the easy explanation for going any manner of distance in them phir toh Shivaay should NEVER tell any truth to Anika cuz she's CONSTANTLY crying like a human hosepipe for any manner of random reasons as the writers so decree..."aaj ki naari"😆


This justification to every action of what women do in the shows has led to the poor development of women characters. Agar audience hi nahi chahte ki women characters evolve to makers kyun dikhaye? Exactly.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome Post🤗
I don't want it to be Shivaay VS Annika...
The thing is Gulneet have destroyed 'Shivika' completely & I don't think I'll be able to love them the way I did before...
The fact is Shivika r acting like 2 stubborn & immature kids & not talking...
As NM said in his IV today that they have so much of angst in themselves that they don't talk & solve their issues. They make assumptions on their own & use their logic & thus have converted their relationship into a competition!!!
The thing which they have to do is talk it out not show their tadi,disappointment,hurt & angst!!!
At least somebody has to behave sensibly & take action!!!
Hopefully Rikara & Ruvya will knock some sense into them😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Posted this comment in another post. Copy pasting here.

shivaay will never know his so called mom back stabbed him.. Shivaay many time directly asked her if she want to marry Vikram or not.. Why she is destroying her self respect Just like that.. If shivaay forgive her and move on.. Tomarrow she will do same thing.. She needs to know that in a relationship one can't take decisions alone and she can't give up her marriage for others blackmailing even if it is his mother too..

Shivaay : after all these dard, fph game.. Still he didn't understand his wife.. She sacrificed her life for him. She saved his family's life, she trusted him blindly.. Still he judged her sincerity towards his family because of one damn day.. He can forgive Tia but can't forgive Anika..may be we can't forgive that person's mistake who we love more than our life.. But trust is the main base of a relationship.. Right.. He is furious because she pointed finger at her bro but he failed to understand that, this same brother is protecting and praising his wife.. He can believe ragini 's lie but not his wife's innocence.

I think end of this marriage.. Anika will understand one can't let down their marriage for other's selfish reason and shivaay will learn to trust his wife..

Edited by lakshmi32 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#9

Originally posted by: charminggenie



I for one have always been biased to Anika because SC plays her so well, yet in this current mess , I cannot help but facepalm at her stupidity.

Let this be known. love, relationship is NOT UNCONDITIONAL. Ever. Fiction or Real life. These conditions are basic respect, communication, opinions ..and also the socio-environmental ones.

Here a guy lost his wife because his whole family is busy playing hide-n-seek and treating him with kid gloves. Anika made a decision for Shivaay about his existence without him knowing. That is not love but stupidity. There is no avoiding this dard and who is to say the actions of Anika and OM Bros haven't messed his head all this while.
There was no reason or depth to Anika's decision but contriving plot device , to drag the show and to sell the idea of "mahaan" , unspoken dard ka ehsaas wala pyaar because audience will live it through the metaphors that need to be conjured from thin air in order to defend the loopholes and inconsistency of writing.

I don't get the fiance mess that Anika has dug herself into but all this probably will kill any guy who if somesay is madly "unconditionally" in luvvv with the girl.




THIS👏👏...honestly Shivika still had a bit of realistic relationship in the fact that they COMMUNICATED through their issues...talked about their mistakes, their flaws, showed a WILLINGNESS to work through them...but this latest track has washed away everything in forced mindless tadi and to make matters worse, people are busy JUSTIFYING this with a demand for some so called "unconditional" love.


TRUST is important in a relationship but that doesn't automatically make it UNCONDITIONAL...that's just naive...TRUST is more important than some unconditional fantasy...because trust tells you that someone will catch you whenever you fall...because you will falter, fall time and again...it's human nature...trust shows a willingness to work through any problem...to put "unconditional" blinders on only lets a problem fester only to rise up again and again.



I loved Anika and SC's portrayal of her...but I'm not going to justify b.s...no one can salvage b.s. of this level no matter how much they make SC cry.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wow! You sound livid! 😃
Imo there's no sound justification for Annika's behavior post-leap, and no justification for many things SSO did pre-separation. I like to think it's the writer's way of showing us that these are two very real, flawed characters, but lately I have a growing suspicion the writer isn't quite as invested in these characters as some of the fans are. 😆

My suggestion to myself and everyone else? Take it easy, this is fiction.. the indian daily soap version at that.. there are surely bigger things in life to get stressed about. 😊

Now, to follow my own advice... 😉

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