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Hi All

I am back with a new post on Samay. I just noticed that my first thread on this forum still attracts viewers, who even now reply back with their comments (I am so grateful to you all for appreciating it so much).

So, coming to this topic, what is this post about? It's about -

SAMAY AS SACH. TIME AS TRUTH.

I know big words. But, this is the impression that Samay gave me while Friday's (April 14, 2017) episode was airing. He was an ideal witness. Now, why do I say that? Because, a good witness should state what he saw and NOT what he interpreted (by virtue of his presence on any scene of crime). That is why he is called an eye witness. Any ideal witness should be objective. They are discouraged from drawing conclusions.

Now, why do I think Samay fulfils this criterion (mentioned hereinbefore)? I'll try to explain the same by drawing on the very dialogues that Samay uttered.

1. On being asked about the reason behind his presence (at the crime scene), he replied:

"Ayaan ne us raat bohut pi rakkhi thi. Bohut nashe mein tha aur bohut gusse mein bhi tha. Mujhe laga ki kahin use kuch ho na jaayein. Bike pe jaa raha tha toh maine socha ki main bhi uska peechha kar ke dekhoon ki sab theek toh hain." He didn't say I was worried that Ayaan was going to harm Maya. I know most of the audience have criticized the Counsel for the Prosecution. But, herein, the very same man played his cards well by implying that Samay was worried on Maya's behalf (because of Ayaan's behaviour).

2. On the allegation of Ayaan doing "zabardasti" with Mayaji, Samay's exact words were:

"Ayaan zabardasti nahin kar raha tha."

3. On being asked what did he see Ayaan and Maya doing respectively, Samay answered:

"Woh, Mayaji zameen par thi. Chilla rahi thi. Aur Ayaan unke upar tha."

4. On being asked about what Maya was saying, he clarified:

"Woh help ki liye chilla rahin thi, bachane ke liye chilla rahin thi"

5. Then comes the question about what action Samay took, to which his reply was:

"Maine Ayaan ko Mayaji ke upar se kheecha"

6. On being asked to describe Maya's condition, Samay's answer was:

"Unke kapde phate huye the, unki puri body par ghav the, khoon beh raha tha, woh dari huyi thi, ro rahi thi, jaise jaise" (The conclusion is for a logical person to make).

My aim while noting down each and every dialogue uttered by Samay is not to say that he does not have bad intentions. He may very well be in cahoots with Maya (provided that the latter has tried to implicate Ayaan in this mess, which till now is not a proven fact). I am not even implying that Samay's motive is pure (he himself indicated by his thoughts that he would always support Maya). But, in the court, he still was a model witness. As, regardless of his motive, Samay spoke about what he saw only and did not utter a single word more (the sach ke seeva kuch nahi boloonga part). It was the Counsel for the Prosecution who played with words (even twisted them) [as any good lawyer should] and the Judge herself seemed convinced by his argument.

What I loved was that he was not given OTT dialogues.👏 Neither did he have a screaming fit (like most witnesses in daily soaps are prone to have).😉 He was not even shown as being sarcastic'. In real court, sarcastic comments are frowned upon. So, yes, his testimony was short, plain (without double meaning) and lucid - all very desirable traits one should have when one is deposing before the court.

I have tried to not be swayed by prejudices while putting forth my point of view. However, some subjectivity is bound to creep in, especially when you absolutely admire the actor playing the character. Till now, I have found Samay to be a very intriguing character.😃 His viewpoint is unusual. I liked him when he silently accepted Maya manhandling (for want of a better word) him in the car scene. I also like his approach/attitude to life as seen in his introductory scene (with Arjun) or the pub scene or even the second kitchen scene (where he tells Saanjh to support her friend). However, I am not oblivious to his faults, as I cannot condone him for using Saanjh to get closer to Maya or even pretending to be non-drinker, yet drinking in isolation (I am not against drinking, but lying here).

Samay had once famously said "Samay sirf sach dekhta hain". He also impressed me once by reminding Saanjh (before the whole courtroom drama started) that the whole case was about Ayaan not Maya.👍🏼 I hope that truth can come to light through Samay [I don't need him to play an active role, but still be the bearer of truth and light (I don't know whether I'm making sense here.)]

I request everyone to share their viewpoints (I am apprehensive whether anyone would even bother to read the whole post. It took me a long time to jot down this post in order to be accurate).

Also, this is another chance for you all to play lawyers. You may not agree with my view and have pertinent points to back up your side. I would like to hear relevant arguments (valid ones and even emotional ones) even if they are against Samay's credibility as a witness.

I apologize for this late post. I watch busy watching IPL matches.

Warm regards

Priya

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: determination

Hi
All

I
am back with a new post on Samay. I just noticed that my first thread on this
forum still attracts viewers, who even now reply back with their comments (I am
so grateful to you all for appreciating it so much).

So,
coming to this topic, what is this post about? It's about -

SAMAY AS SACH. TIME AS TRUTH.

I
know big words. But, this is the impression that Samay gave me while Friday's (April
14, 2017) episode was airing. He was an ideal
witness
. Now, why do I say that? Because, a good witness should state what he saw and NOT what he interpreted (by
virtue of his presence on any scene of crime). That is why he is called an eye
witness. Any ideal witness should be
objective
. They are discouraged from
drawing conclusions
.

Now,
why do I think Samay fulfils this criterion (mentioned hereinbefore)? I'll try
to explain the same by drawing on the very dialogues that Samay uttered.

1.
On being asked about the reason behind his presence (at the crime scene), he
replied:

"Ayaan ne us raat bohut pi rakkhi
thi. Bohut nashe mein tha aur bohut gusse mein bhi tha. Mujhe laga ki kahin use
kuch ho na jaayein.
Bike pe jaa raha tha toh maine socha ki main bhi uska peechha
kar ke dekhoon ki sab theek toh hain."
He didn't say I was
worried that Ayaan was going to harm Maya. I know most of the audience have
criticized the Counsel for the Prosecution. But, herein, the very same man
played his cards well by implying that Samay was worried on Maya's behalf
(because of Ayaan's behaviour).

2.
On the allegation of Ayaan doing "zabardasti"
with Mayaji, Samay's exact words were:

"Ayaan zabardasti nahin kar raha
tha."

3.
On being asked what did he see Ayaan and Maya doing respectively, Samay answered:

"Woh, Mayaji zameen par thi. Chilla
rahi thi. Aur Ayaan unke upar tha."

4.
On being asked about what Maya was saying, he clarified:

"Woh help ki liye chilla rahin thi,
bachane ke liye chilla rahin thi"

5.
Then comes the question about what action Samay took, to which his reply
was:

"Maine Ayaan ko Mayaji ke upar se
kheecha"

6.
On being asked to describe Maya's condition, Samay's answer was:

"Unke kapde phate huye the, unki
puri body par ghav the, khoon beh raha tha, woh dari huyi thi, ro rahi thi,
jaise jaise"
(The conclusion is for a logical person
to make).

My
aim while noting down each and every dialogue uttered by Samay is not to say that he
does not have bad intentions. He may very well be in cahoots with Maya
(provided that the latter has tried to implicate Ayaan in this mess, which till
now is not a proven fact). I am not even implying that Samay's motive is pure
(he himself indicated by his thoughts that he would always support Maya). But, in the court, he still was a model witness.
As, regardless of his motive, Samay
spoke about what he saw only and did not utter a single word more
(the sach ke seeva kuch nahi boloonga part).
It was the Counsel for the Prosecution who played with words (even twisted
them) [as any good lawyer should] and the Judge herself seemed convinced by his
argument.

What
I loved was that he was not given OTT
dialogues
.👏Neither did he have a screaming fit (like most
witnesses in daily soaps are prone to have).😉 He was not even shown as being
sarcastic'
. In real court, sarcastic comments are frowned upon. So, yes, his testimony was short, plain (without
double meaning) and lucid
- all very
desirable traits one should have when one is deposing before the court
.

I
have tried to not be swayed by prejudices while putting forth my point of view.
However, some subjectivity is bound to creep in, especially when you absolutely
admire the actor playing the character. Till now, I have found Samay to be a very intriguing character.😃His viewpoint is unusual. I liked him when he silently accepted
Maya manhandling (for want of a better word) him in the car scene. I also like
his approach/attitude to life as seen in his introductory scene (with Arjun) or
the pub scene or even the second kitchen scene (where he tells Saanjh to
support her friend). However, I am not oblivious
to his faults
, as I cannot condone him for using Saanjh to get closer to
Maya or even pretending to be non-drinker, yet drinking in isolation (I am not
against drinking, but lying here).

Samay
had once famously said "Samay sirf sach
dekhta hain"
. He also impressed me
once by reminding Saanjh
(before the whole courtroom drama started) that the whole case was about Ayaan not
Maya
.👍🏼 I hope that truth can come to light through Samay [I don't need him
to play an active role, but still be the bearer of truth and light (I don't
know whether I'm making sense here.)]

I
request everyone to share their viewpoints (I am apprehensive whether anyone
would even bother to read the whole post. It took me a long time to jot down
this post in order to be accurate).

Also, this
is another chance for you all to play lawyers. You may not agree with my view and
have pertinent points to back up your side. I would like to hear relevant
arguments (valid ones and even emotional ones) even if they are against Samay's
credibility as a witness.

I
apologize for this late post. I watch busy watching IPL matches.

Warm
regards


Priya




Well yes. Samay is one of the most intriguing character and I simply love this actor's acting.

More than anything I believe he is the only one who can match up to Maya
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think he understands Maya condition and also knows that Ayaan wasn't doing the crime he is accused of..
More cross examination was not done and hence he was not able to present himself to the point..
He has seen the truth but has not been able to show it..
Really an intriguing character..
He probably wants the optimum justice for both Maya and Ayaan..
Edited by .Fragrance. - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good post, Priya...
Really well laid out points. 👍🏼

Well, my view about Samay right from his entry has been that like his namesake, samay (time), Samay too is a neutral bystander, who knows who is exactly wrong or right.

With time, karma eventually catches up with one & all, n here too, Samay will play a major role in bad karma catching up with it's eventual n rightful fate.

I believe Maya has committed a series of crimes, n Saanjh with time (samay) & Samay, will unmask all the crimes.

I m excitedly looking forward to the drama unfolding. I only hope that the courtroom drama this time is better staged n the prosecution lawyer at least brushes his teeth with some "visibly white" toothpaste 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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OMG, I just realized that someone has already posted a topic with the same title.

So, my title now has serious copyright issues. I'll try to change it now.

I also want to thank all of you who pressed the 'like' button.

I'll reply to the individual posts in details after going through them.
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Okay, the title of this post is now changed. Thank God, I noticed in time.


I would also like to apologize to the other author (ashpat13), as he/she was the first one who used the previous title and thereby, it's his/her right (from where I see it). I am now going through his/her post.


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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Good post, Priya...

Really well laid out points. 👍🏼

Well, my view about Samay right from his entry has been that like his namesake, samay (time), Samay too is a neutral bystander, who knows who is exactly wrong or right.

With time, karma eventually catches up with one & all, n here too, Samay will play a major role in bad karma catching up with it's eventual n rightful fate.

I believe Maya has committed a series of crimes, n Saanjh with time (samay) & Samay, will unmask all the crimes.

I m excitedly looking forward to the drama unfolding. I only hope that the courtroom drama this time is better staged n the prosecution lawyer at least brushes his teeth with some "visibly white" toothpaste 😆


But Khushi, why did not Samay raise his voice when the prosecutor said that Saanjh asked Samay to leave the city and Samay was caught before he left the city.. When did Saanjh ask Samay to leave the city?..
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Samay sirf woh sach dektha hai jo sach maya dikhana chahthi hai.His love for her is beyhadh and he will only believe what according to maya is the truth.Yeh maya ka samay hai.
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Originally posted by: determination

Okay, the title of this post is now changed. Thank God, I noticed in time.



I would also like to apologize to the other author (ashpat13), as he/she was the first one who used the previous title and thereby, it's his/her right (from where I see it). I am now going through his/her post.




You don't have to apologize for that's it's perfectly fine. And I am a girl just want to clear it 😆 . Your post much more in depth than mine because I wrote in rush. I will reply for post soon when I get time .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyankazzz


But Khushi, why did not Samay raise his voice when the prosecutor said that Saanjh asked Samay to leave the city and Samay was caught before he left the city.. When did Saanjh ask Samay to leave the city?..


Well Priyanka, my theory is that Samay knows from first hand experience how dark, dangerous, manipulative & vindictive Maya can be...The Maya-Samay FB scene indicated that. Hence, I strongly believe that Samay is here to help Saanjh unmask Maya's true face to the world.

Samay seems to have understood that this was a lost case for Saanjh. He has purposely tried to show Maya that he has turned against Saanjh to gain entry into Maya world again.

At the moment, it may appear that Samay is with Maya, but my theory is that he is actually with Saanjh.

Also, this show has always relied heavily on symbolisms. Even main characters are named accordingly...

Maya - an illusion
Saanjh - the ever dependent dusk, when all wrongs done during the day are set right...
Arjun - needs to fight a war to save his kin
Samay - time, which eventually aides fate to catch up with ones Karma...N is ultimately with truth, though it may appear to aide falsehood intermittently...

Let's see whether this theory is proven right or wrong
Edited by ---Khushi--- - 8 years ago

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