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Sindhu

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Posted: 8 years ago

I know everyone's irritated about the flashbacks. I was also.

But I was confused whether to be irritated for the flashbacks or take pride in Sartaj.

It was an episode dedicated to him, his struggles and how he overcame it. This, unlike other soaps, is an artwork.. not mere entertainment. It is a story, well woven. Like every story.. this story too needs a conclusion. And it is in this conclusion that they want to acknowledge the journey or Sartaj Singh. And realizations of Vikram.

I know it was very irritating, but in the point of view of story telling, I think this is how they can come to a conclusion. It is like a character closing for every character. And I really think Sartaj Singh deserves this. He has died for his nation, (I know its fictional) but we need to give that a little respect.

And to everyone who's blaming it on the writers. I think the writers have done a fantastic job. POW has never let me down. It has always had meon the edge of my seat. And I shall always have high regards for the writers. It is not an easy task to write such a gripping story. Kudos to them.

Secondly, addressing Sid - Sadiq transformation. Sid was great. Everyone loved him. He instantly connected with everyone and everyone fell in love with him. And now, after so many episodes, I am convinced with his transformation due to Hussain. I mean, if Naaz and Salim could fall in love, even though Naaz and Imaan had a love marriage, then this transformation is also agreeable.

Do you realise how long, how long, how LOOONNNG 17 years is ?

Imaan was visible only in photos. His memories were also probably fading in her mind. It was Salim all along for her, always. 17 years is really long. And memories do fade. And how long would she have been able to hold on to memories ? She needed something tangible. Salim was her present. And so she did develop feelings for him.

In a very similar way. Siddhant. This poor boy was 20-21 years old during Kargil. His memories would have really not stayed for long. and 14 years of torture. He could handle it because he met with Imaan and SArtaj. THey were there to support him when he lost all hopes. And Whhooossshhh, they were gone too.

He was at someone's house. Under someone's care. With Humans around him, with humanly emotions. With people who had the ability to love and be loved. He found Hussain and Afreen. And genuinely, he could hold on to them and take their support. His memories of his sister, surely must have blurred. As it is a really long time. And it IS hard to remember each and every moment from the past you know. Shobha and Vikram were intangible for him. While Afreen and Hussain were tangible. So he got hold of them. They were there for him emotionally and he got attached to them.

After so many years, he found love in the two. And in the recovering stage itself, he lost whom he loved the most. And he was brainwashed with the same incident again and again. And so he changed.

He fell in love. And LOVE is such an emotion that can make anyone go to any extents.

The only mistake he ever did was to fall in love with Hussain and Afreen.

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

The point is not about paying respect to Sartaj

Yes they should have done it but what about the unanswered questions!

Those unanswered questions are what is annoying us...that instead of answering them..instead of explaining it all they devoted an entire episode to flashbacks.

Do devote time to flashbacks but not at the cost of leaving out so many loose ends !

Yes few months of Hussain's love could have been stronger but who will explain Sid's contradictory behavior is what we are annoyed at !

Who will explain his psyche , his perspective and all those unanswered questions ?

That is our main concern !

And also we understand that he was driven by love but he was tagged as a TERRORIST !

None of the characters not even Sid's sister or most of the fans tried to understand Sid's perspective..that he was also a HUMAN and was wronged the most if we look at it from his perspective !

But because most of us didn't understand and tagged him a terrorist and this is what I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH THE WRITERS ABOUT !

THEY NEVER SHOWED HIS PERSPECTIVE NOR CLARIFIED THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS rather spent time on flashbacks !

And now we don't expect them to clarify anything.

This show is an artwork I agree but they cannot and should not leave any loose ends and unanswered questions when it comes to a character like SIDDHANT.

They must put across the message which they intended to give by this show.

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Sindhu

@Sindhu_18

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Posted: 8 years ago

I am sure they shall answer all your questions in the next few episodes. And even if they don't, I think it is best to leave it unanswered. We cannot be spoon-fed everything right. If you read books, then there too writers end on an ambiguous note, leaving the audience with complete Independence to interpret whatever they wish to interpret out of the story.

And to answer your question of why did he stop hitting Yusuf when Afreen called him Siddhant.

Well. She kept saying Sadiq and he was in no mood to listen. But he was called Siddhant. It was different to his ears. He must not have known how to react to it. It's something she's never called him before. And also, wouldn't he have had memories recollected when she called him Siddhant?

I think we you are reading too much into it. Something's are better left the way they are. Coz everything doesn't have to have an answer. It's better to be unanswered. And somethings have to accepted the way it is, as such is the complexity of life. And we can't deny that.

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PatialaKiMini

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Posted: 8 years ago

I too was confused about what to feel about the episode because I have full faith in the writers , I actually watched all the episodes of that Nandini time and realized they were important too and not filler. Not stretched too. Then I saw the pictures of Nikhil Advani actually apologising for few mistakes in the show and I was touched. Hence I watched the episode five times and realized that it was perfect and not wastage.

And yes few questions need to be answered which they may on last episode.

Also I think tomorrow we will come to know more about Iman after the attack and not just shown FBs

I agree to your answer of Afreen calling Sadiq Sid

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Sindhu_18
I am sure they shall answer all your questions in the next few episodes. And even if they don't, I think it is best to leave it unanswered. We cannot be spoon-fed everything right. If you read books, then there too writers end on an ambiguous note, leaving the audience with complete Independence to interpret whatever they wish to interpret out of the story.
And to answer your question of why did he stop hitting Yusuf when Afreen called him Siddhant.

Well. She kept saying Sadiq and he was in no mood to listen. But he was called Siddhant. It was different to his ears. He must not have known how to react to it. It's something she's never called him before. And also, wouldn't he have had memories recollected when she called him Siddhant?

I think we you are reading too much into it. Something's are better left the way they are. Coz everything doesn't have to have an answer. It's better to be unanswered. And somethings have to accepted the way it is, as such is the complexity of life. And we can't deny that.

See that is the exact thing which DISPPOINTS ME

yes we are not supposed to be spoon fed !

Today's flashback served nothing.

To interpret something there has to be something!!!!!

Those unanswered questions are not something which we can assume and interpret !

Those are clearly questions whose answers we did not get !

If you had clearly looked at Afreen-Sid scene u will notice that it was not what u have interpreted

He didn't respond coz he heard a name which he hadn't heard in years...his life flashed before his eyes ! Life of SIDDHANT THAKUR. he was in Rage...a purest emotion and in that emotion his sub conscious told him that he was SIDDHANT..and that is hlwhy he had responded

To back this up I can give u another example

Remember he looked himself in the mirror and both lives as Sadiq and Siddhant flashed before his eyes and in the end the a hussain's question echoed in his ear 'Apka naam kya hai' to which the voice over said 'LT. SIDDHANT THAKUR'

Why was it shown if he was Sadiq.

See these kinds of shows which as u said are art works if they show a scene then there is always a thought behind it...they are not shown for the sake of it !

But writers messed it up BIG TIME !

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Sindhu

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: anshvi

See that is the exact thing which DISPPOINTS ME
yes we are not supposed to be spoon fed !

Today's flashback served nothing.
To interpret something there has to be something!!!!!

Those unanswered questions are not something which we can assume and interpret !
Those are clearly questions whose answers we did not get !

If you had clearly looked at Afreen-Sid scene u will notice that it was not what u have interpreted
He didn't respond coz he heard a name which he hadn't heard in years...his life flashed before his eyes ! Life of SIDDHANT THAKUR. he was in Rage...a purest emotion and in that emotion his sub conscious told him that he was SIDDHANT..and that is hlwhy he had responded
To back this up I can give u another example
Remember he looked himself in the mirror and both lives as Sadiq and Siddhant flashed before his eyes and in the end the a hussain's question echoed in his ear 'Apka naam kya hai' to which the voice over said 'LT. SIDDHANT THAKUR'
Why was it shown if he was Sadiq.

See these kinds of shows which as u said are art works if they show a scene then there is always a thought behind it...they are not shown for the sake of it !
But writers messed it up BIG TIME !

I think it's getting a little too aggressive here.

But let me tell you, it is the complexity of the way the character is. Siddhant is such a complex character that it is tough to interpret what actually is the truth. Siddhant - principles. There are a set of principles for this side, while there a set of principles for the other side. And for each side, their principles are the ultimate truth.

Siddhant has been on this side as well as that. But has spent most of his life on that side. Truths on this side, won't be standing true on the other side. And the same vice versa. It is a very complex situation.

On a daily basis I feel the devil and angel in me. There are constant thoughts. So we cannot want to have Mr.S as Siddhant or Sadiq. He has to be a mix of both. It has to be grey.

Life is that way. Just because you are Sadiq does not mean you don't have Sid in you.. and just because you are Sid does not mean you have no Sadiq left in you. When he heard Harleens pregnancy, he was Sid, but he remembered Afreen and Sadiq. When he told Shobha that lieutenant Siddhant thakur had died long back, he was Sadiq, but he still addressed Shobha as di.

He can neither be this nor that. And we need to understand this complexity as we on a normal basis face such dual side situations in our lives too.

And yes. Every scene in this show has deep meaning and thought put into it. But as I have maintained, every story has two sides. I may agree to the one which you don't. But that is the point of the whole thing. It is the freedom of the interpretor to interpret what he/she wishes to out of the situation.

Trying to expect definite answers to things we can understand and assume ourselves, is just going to spoil the intrigue and mystic of the show.

Edited by Sindhu_18 - 8 years ago

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Sindhu_18

I think it's getting a little too aggressive here.

But let me tell you, it is the complexity of the way the character is. Siddhant is such a complex character that it is tough to interpret what actually is the truth. Siddhant - principles. There are a set of principles for this side, while there a set of principles for the other side. And for each side, their principles are the ultimate truth.

Siddhant has been on this side as well as that. But has spent most of his life on that side. Truths on this side, won't be standing true on the other side. And the same vice versa. It is a very complex situation.

On a daily basis I feel the devil and angel in me. There are constant thoughts. So we cannot want to have Mr.S as Siddhant or Sadiq. He has to be a mix of both. It has to be grey.

Life is that way. Just because you are Sadiq does not mean you don't have Sid in you.. and just because you are Sadiq does not mean you have no Sadiq left in you. When he heard Harleens pregnancy, he was Sid, but he remembered Afreen and Sadiq. When he told Shobha that lieutenant Siddhant thakur had died long back, he was Sadiq, but he still addressed Shobha as di.

He can neither be this nor that. And we need to understand this complexity as we on a normal basis face such dual side situations in our lives too.

And yes. Every scene in this show has deep meaning and thought put into it. But as I have maintained, every story has two sides. I may agree to the one which you don't. But that is the point of the whole thing. It is the freedom of the interpretor to interpret what he/she wishes to out of the situation.

Trying to expect definite answers to things we can understand and assume ourselves, is just going to spoil the intrigue and mystic of the show.

See this is my perspective

For me those questions were not something we can perceive and interpret in our own way.

I mean can we interpret why He asked Ibrahim not to fire , why he wanted to free Mullah Peer , why he asked Afreen not to inform anyone that he was Sadiq , what meesage Shobha received etc.

.these are some questions whose answers are expected!

Yes he as both Sadiq and Sid but in Pak that Siddhant overpowered Sadiq but what turned and what changed that as soon as he returned India Sadiq overpowered him!

What was his perspective ! This is not something that can be left to viewers' interpretation...this is something they need to showcase coz this was the very story they wanted to show.

What today was shown we could have interpreted on our own ! We understood Sartaj and Imaan coz we had followed their journey...we understood their perspective...what they showed d today I feel that is spoonfeeding...I am sure all of all knew already was told today...it was SIDDHANT whom we wanted to understand and they should have explained his part of the story I feel !

So well I agree that some things are supposed to be left for viewers to interpret and what was shown today we could hAve ealisy interpreted as we had seen and understood Sartaj's journey...all of us had...WHILE on the other hand SIDDHANT's story is something we all want them to clarify and put across his perspective and give answers to most of those unanswered questions if not all.

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Sindhu

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Posted: 8 years ago

Why Afreen was asked not to inform anybody.

Like come on, if everyone was pretty informed then wouldn't they all run to safety before the surgical strike happened !? They would be well informed of what was going to happen where. The spontaneous responses of the Jaish would be missing if they were pre informed.

He asked Ibrahim not to fire as he wanted to keep them hostages. And there is no point in simply killing people. I know he killed a bodyguard, but Siddhant did not want to unnecessary kill any of the people he help hostage at Thadani Corp, as he wanted a confession from them.

Who is Mulla peer ? Well, I don't know.

What message Shobha must have received? She must have received about the attacks and Sid being involved. I am guessing as she immediately starts thinking about all the time spent with Siddhant.

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anshvi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Well informing Jadun is one thing...he would have helped in carrying out Mission Badshah !

And yes exactly why destroy Jaish..only to gain India's trust...they already trusted him after they got to know that he killed Lala

Don't u think Jadun would have made it easy for Sadiq to run and reach India safely...he would not have asked Yusuf to catch him and kill him

Why jeopardise ur own life and mission by not informing Jadun about it !

2. Shobha was already watching the news when the msg came...he was already aware of what was going on through the news...why sending her a text message then.

3. He didn't want to kill Thadani and Govind...but why did he care if a security guard died ! He went ahead and had put all the civilians at gun point ! He didn't care about them while he was concerned about Ibrahim shooting a guard..why dis contradictory behaviour! A security guArd was anyways useless to them and their mission.

If you will check my post 'Loose ends' you will find many such questions whose answers we didn't get

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