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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Mai4eva

I agree with all you said Whispa, but really I don't like it when I see Vividha conflicted in her actions over Ravish because come on, it makes the viewers confused. You're taking the ulta pheras just moments ago and now that Atharva is back, you have tears over Ravish asking for the mangalsutra, it's just plain misleading. You're touching Atharva yourself and your expressions show conflict when he's touching you.

She's our girl and we try to understand her, but for ViTharvians, it's still painful to watch her struggle.


Hey Mai


Vividha doesn't seem confused to me at all. Don't look what the camera is showing, listen to the words she's speaking. There is absolutely no confusion! And the tears are not because she doesn't want the divorce, it's because she feels bad for Ravish. She was perfectly willing to hand over the mangal sutra 10 seconds later.

And the only reason she was a little conflicted by Atharv touching her was because she knows she's lying to him. He thinks she's waited for her and is carrying on from where they left off. Just look at her face in that scene. It's taking all of her effort not to touch him back.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: ARCHRE

Whispa 🤗...The last few minutes were like ❤️



Your reviews are always balanced ... you give everybody their fair share of cake ...
But I dont intend to give my piece of cake to a certain someone 😆... . Not now ... not ever

RAVISH ... I still feel like
When i see him . ...I think I have formed an opinion about him that is going to take a few miracles to change ... and then too maybe ... Ok I am going to rant quite a bit here ... have avoided thos for a while

Look at his characteristion ... First he brings Atharv Home ... Then every moment he gets he accuses him of anything at all that goes wrong in his household ... then he chains a mentally unbalanced person and slaps him like crazy ... then he keeps the person Atharv loves in a kind of emotional captivity ... then he lies , lies and lies ...

I dont think he feels anything at all for Atharv ...Like emotions have to be consistent if you like somebody ... Every time he was in baby state ... he took emotional advantage of the girl whom he loved ... he gave those looks and tried to send her on guilt trips ... Then when he supposedly died ' he was again into self brooding mode and those looks ... Now that Atharv is back , he comes with his most pathetic smile of not knowing how to handle the situation an then he decides and compulsorily instructs everybody to lie ...

Now tell me what has he actually done for Atharv ?
Not once was he actually there to save him... all by himself ...
Shouldn't the first thing to do is release Vividha from the bond of the so called marriage , by like getting a divorce ? How is hiding a MS going to help ?
NO ... but he wants to keep her ...😡 ...Then he wants her to lie ... then he gives those looks ...
SO really he just cant get over VIVIDHA... there is a huge difference between saying things and actually doing them ... Actions always speak louder than words , dont they ?...

I cant believe I have written so much on this character . I feel like
.
.. but then i wont delete it as i have wasted my time writing it ...😆

ATHARV ...
There is maybe something more than meets the eye ...
Who dropped him there is the first question ...
Why hasen't he asked yet as to why they are in some unknown persons house now that the marraige is called off... ?
Dont you feel like he is pushing this affection knowingly in front of a set of unknown people ?

I feel He is also pushin Vividha to take a few steps with strength ...But then i think I am just thinking too much ...If that happens the whole MS drama will be so useless...
So maybe he does not know everything , but maybe he does know a few things ...
He has undoubtedly suffered whispa and will suffer even more ... His pain is as large as Vividhas and longer because he has been suffering for just too long 😭 . ..
My feeling when I see him is like

... How much more ?


VIVIDHA
Absolutely no doubts on vividha ... even if she clasps that MS 24 hours ...

What a lovely smile from the heart when Atharv says he will just take her away if she makes him wait any longer ... How beautiful was that and so innocent ... though it was just for a whee bit ...

Its going to get more and more difficuolt for her ...It already is ...

The pain is unbearable even to watch

The way she stretches out to feel him

The way she caresses him


How much longer will she really be able to hold on to the lies ????
in this situation ...


Archie🤗

Another wonderful post from you. I love all the pics.

I absolutely respect your opinions about Ravish. I knew many people wouldn't agree with me😆

And as for Atharv, I don't think he would ever do anything underhand. He's always been so honest and straightforward. Actually I've realised that this is the third time some people have doubted him. First was when some thought he had a split personailty during the molestation time, then some thought he was faking his memory loss the second time round and now some people think he knows more then he's letting on.

But the Atharv I know would never do that. Never.

And Vivi is my jaan who is suffering the most!


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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: ARCHRE

Whispa 🤗...The last few minutes were like ❤️



Your reviews are always balanced ... you give everybody their fair share of cake ...
But I dont intend to give my piece of cake to a certain someone 😆... . Not now ... not ever

RAVISH ... I still feel like
When i see him . ...I think I have formed an opinion about him that is going to take a few miracles to change ... and then too maybe ... Ok I am going to rant quite a bit here ... have avoided thos for a while

Look at his characteristion ... First he brings Atharv Home ... Then every moment he gets he accuses him of anything at all that goes wrong in his household ... then he chains a mentally unbalanced person and slaps him like crazy ... then he keeps the person Atharv loves in a kind of emotional captivity ... then he lies , lies and lies ...

I dont think he feels anything at all for Atharv ...Like emotions have to be consistent if you like somebody ... Every time he was in baby state ... he took emotional advantage of the girl whom he loved ... he gave those looks and tried to send her on guilt trips ... Then when he supposedly died ' he was again into self brooding mode and those looks ... Now that Atharv is back , he comes with his most pathetic smile of not knowing how to handle the situation an then he decides and compulsorily instructs everybody to lie ...

Now tell me what has he actually done for Atharv ?
Not once was he actually there to save him... all by himself ...
Shouldn't the first thing to do is release Vividha from the bond of the so called marriage , by like getting a divorce ? How is hiding a MS going to help ?
NO ... but he wants to keep her ...😡 ...Then he wants her to lie ... then he gives those looks ...
SO really he just cant get over VIVIDHA... there is a huge difference between saying things and actually doing them ... Actions always speak louder than words , dont they ?...

I cant believe I have written so much on this character . I feel like
.
.. but then i wont delete it as i have wasted my time writing it ...😆

ATHARV ...
There is maybe something more than meets the eye ...
Who dropped him there is the first question ...
Why hasen't he asked yet as to why they are in some unknown persons house now that the marraige is called off... ?
Dont you feel like he is pushing this affection knowingly in front of a set of unknown people ?

I feel He is also pushin Vividha to take a few steps with strength ...But then i think I am just thinking too much ...If that happens the whole MS drama will be so useless...
So maybe he does not know everything , but maybe he does know a few things ...
He has undoubtedly suffered whispa and will suffer even more ... His pain is as large as Vividhas and longer because he has been suffering for just too long 😭 . ..
My feeling when I see him is like

... How much more ?


VIVIDHA
Absolutely no doubts on vividha ... even if she clasps that MS 24 hours ...

What a lovely smile from the heart when Atharv says he will just take her away if she makes him wait any longer ... How beautiful was that and so innocent ... though it was just for a whee bit ...

Its going to get more and more difficuolt for her ...It already is ...

The pain is unbearable even to watch

The way she stretches out to feel him

The way she caresses him


How much longer will she really be able to hold on to the lies ????
in this situation ...



Archie ... lovely post !!

Your gifs are giving apt expressions too 😃

Archie if you remember I wrote in my thread earlier that makers have been very smartly playing Ravish, they have never shown him successful with regards to saving and protecting them, Its initially them doing it for one another and then Ravish. In spite that I keep calling him Vitharv's guardian 😃

He will always be like that, ek pau kabar mein and ek pau somewhere somewhere...

And nopes i don't think Atharva knows anything but i does make me think that he will soon wanna go to tabela and start questioning everything, its just been a day he is conscious and only existing in the excitement of being with Vividha next to him and not in clutches of KK.

And yes Vividha will not be able to hold it for so long, this girl will have a bad day and spit it out all to Atharva, she just melts in his arms and this time he is too desperate and impatient to let her go... that I am expecting a trigger to vividha for not holding up anymore and just break herself into him.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
Hey Whispa,
Vividha's pain is getting unbearable to watch!
How that girl is still holding i don't know! She has suffered so much that even if Atharv is back she still can't let it loose!
This girl deserves to be happy now.. enough of the suffering..!!

Your take on Ravish's behaviour is right.. atleast this is something wat CVs are trying to showcase.

I know Ravish is very good at heart and all he want is his brother's happiness but for me Ravish has always been a weakly etched character.. he doesn't face any situation head on (even being an army person).. he always look for a temporary solution leaving behind the future adversities!

Mangal Sutra drama is just so yawn worthy now! It doesn't effect me at all.. i know wat CVs are trying to sell... and its not going anywhere anytime soon!

The last 2 mins were hot! But vivi's pain just melt my heart! She herself is craving for his touch but she just cudn't reciprocate the love at the moment!
She is really holding so much.. she really need to let it all go now.. i m really scared for this girl!

Precap is amazing! Uma need a big dose! That woman makes me sick!


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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: whispa

I think I saw this episode slightly different from most of you and I know most of you won't agree with my views so please feel free to disagree. 😳


First of all my poor Vividha. Right now this girl is suffering the most. I know many people might feel that it's Atharv, but at this moment in time, he's got it the easiest. Yes, he fought his way back from death to be with Vividha but as far as he is concerned, his problems are over. He has no memory of what he's been through and most importantly he doesn't know Vividha is married. So he is in peaceful ignorance of all the problems that he is going to be facing. As far as he is concerned, he has come back to his Vividha and he just wants to marry her as soon as possible.

And Ravish.

When I started to watch the episode, I was dumbfounded when he told his family that they had to keep everything a secret from Atharv, especially the fact that he was now married to Vividha. And I thought to myself, what an idiot! Not again. Didn't Ravish remember the horrible impact all his lies had last time when he kept Atharv a secret from everyone. But as the episode wore on, one fact became glaringly obvious to me anyway.

Ravish loves Atharv more than he does Vividha.

Ravish would be fine if Vivi went away from his life, he would get over it. But not Atharv. His actions proved that to me today. From making sure that all evidences of the Vashisht name were removed from the mansion to asking Vividha to remove the mangal sutra, Ravish wanted to protect Atharv. Yes we all know that when Atharv finds out he's going to hate the fact that he was lied to. But Ravish is not Atharv. They are two different people with different personalities. Ravish is dealing with the situation in the way that he thinks is best. And the fact that he asked Vivi to remove that mangal sutra shows me that he will keep his word about getting Vitharv married.

And that brings us back to Vividha. Why did it seem that she was reluctant to take off the mangal sutra. Was she feeling guilty? Is she feeling in love with Ravish?

No, no and no.

Vivi didn't feel guilty, after all she was going to divorce Ravish anyway, nor did she have any epiphany either that she loved her husband. It was simple. The makers cannot afford to show their female lead happily handing it over to her nice husband so she could be with the man she loves. That would just make her look like a real heartless vamp. But the fact is, she was going to hand it over. She was willing to remove it because for her, it is a burden underneath in which she is being crushed.

Vividha is only her real self when she is with Atharv. So when he takes her by the hand to the mandap and tells her he can't wait anymore to get married she smiled. And when he tells her that he will whisk her away if he makes her wait next time, she blushed.

And despite that mangal sutra round her neck, she still can't keep away from him. As she caressed his face and hands gently reminiscing about how much he has been through to come back to her twice, she can't help but cry because his pain is her pain. And as she turned to leave, Atharv holds her from the back, telling her that he can't keep away from her much longer. And it takes every ounce of her being to stop from responding because in his arms, the world just melts away.

In the pre-cap, Vivi is slaying Uma who tells her not to break her marriage. This is the real Vivi. The one who will defy society and anyone else who will stop her from being with the man she loves.




I understand what you are trying to say. Vividha is hesitating not because of the fact that she was "Married" to Ravish .,

CVs want to show that one should not hesitate to break marriage just because they were forced to marry someone.

That is true.

Vvidha however dumb she is (and she is a real dumbo cvs take pleasure in showing her as dumbo but that is another "story") did not want to marry Ravish.

She did not want to marry Ravish. But before she could explain things started happening.

Now the message cvs want to convey to us is this . Vividha need not consider her marriage to Ravish real.

Vividha is going to tell her mom how much is she /uma considering her marriage to KK.

That is the reason she is going to give to show that just because one is married need consider it final and binding.

Fire vows not withstanding Vividha's life has become tangled now. It would not have mattered so much if she married another guy instead of Ravish's half brother.

But that is the story.

They do not have to beat around the bush. Need not show garbage like ulte phere saying bakwas like they "practice" in "some" "parts" of Rajasthan . They need not show pandit coming and conducting "ulte phere"

Then it would become a national issue. You bring in religion and pandit then it becomes controversial.

So many relgions say marriage is unbreakable.But people in these religions also divorce

But it also has to do with the heart. Just saat phere does not make a marriage real. So there is no need to do "utle phere" and ruin religion.

Just go to court and get divorced. that is why they have courts. they cannot make it religious --the divorce.

Would they dare do undoing marriage vows in some other religious place of worship? would they dare do it with priests from some other religion?

No they won't dare. why bring fake made up rituals showing Hindus doing it for divorce? Just like some other religions which do not have divorce in them but still those people get divorced in courts go to court and get divorced Vividha.

No need for explanation. Uma also can get divorced. Not worth being with a goonda like KK.

If Vividha's love is so strong then that is what matters.

Why are suman and sujata bullying Vividha with an imaginary ritual like "ulte phere" I Have never heard of such crap.

Also Suman and Sujata have no say in the matter. Nor can they threaten Vividha. Uma cannot do emotional blackmail . That too boing in her place.

It is Vividha's own free will to do what she wants. to be Atharv's widow if he had died. or his wife if he lived. Her wish her pleasure. that is it.

Why show more nonsense? Fire vows are important. But what is more important one has to decide.

Don't bring in fire ritual undoing vows to break a marriage. Religion does not break marriage. Court does that. For those who are in such kind of compulsion. It is not wrong. You can even say marriage vows taken under compulsion do not hold good .

We are not saying don't break a marriage just because you married under pressure. Nobody is such a fool. But yes marriage is serious business and one has to take their vows seriously.

If they get married of their own free will. to persons of their choice. and then they want to break it then this advice is given to such people.

Not in Vividha's case. She was dragged into marrying Ravish. She should explain this to Ravish. Under what circumstances she was forced to marry him.

It is not a compliment to Ravish to hear how she married him.

But com'on Vividha out with it. Tell them what a villain your father was and what a criminal your brother was. Tell that to Suman and Sujata

I laughed when Sujata told suman that marriage vows cannot be "reversed" this who will know better than them.

Su Su got married of their own free will. Sujata was in love with RK. married and procreated. without caring for consequences and suffered a lifetime.

Suman lived as second best knowing there is someone else. without knowing the other side of the story.

But they both wanted their life partner . They were not compelled to live with him.

How can they compare Vividha's life with theirs? They are heartless bullies and true MILs in the real sense of the word.

Let Vividha make the decision. Let court help her. Don't ruin religion with your half baked stupid ideas like ulte phere. It does not sanctify the breaking of marriage. Rather it makes us feel insulted as followers of the great sanatana dharma.

And numerous others who follow those religions which also have vows which say "till death do us part" but if one partner is unfair to the other partner they still go to court and divorce.

But the religion does not do it in the religious premises. Even though divorcees still marry in the religious places.

Think well before writing any dialogue. Do not justify bakwas. And do not show bakwas to justify a perfectly justified decision

Where compulsions exist such stands should be taken by people like Vividha

KK should be jailed and along with him Vividha's brother too.

Though I cannot understand if such persons like KK exist. 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Whispaaa 🤗🤗🤗
You said it all... confirming my beliefs and soothing whatever tiniest of irritation or doubts that had creeped into my mind... not about vividha but abt makers thought process for further story!!

Very rightly mentioned which I too felt yesterday that Ravish clearly loves his brother more than Vividha.. moment atharv's safety came to fore, there was no question in his mind. Though his ways are wrong yet again in hiding but he is doing what he think is best for now, esp when Atharv can not handle another shock right now! I dont support the lie but I liked the way he owns up to his brother, loves and cares for him!! Where earlier it was taking him so much strength to break off from Vividha, right now it didnt even take seconds.. he was truly happy that atharv was back.. broken when he wasnt recognized but decisive on hiding the marriage, accepting that it was anyway going to be broken up one day!! He is all for uniting Vitharv, with pain but he is as he understands what they are to each other!

I didnt even once doubt Vividha that she was having 2nd thoughts yesterday.. but what i didnt like how prolonged the scene was while taking off the MS... i know she could not have been heart less and not at all unemotional about it... ofc she is, esp when Ravish has been so respectful and understanding towards her, but what i didnt like was makers showed Ravish giving her reasons and convincing her to take it off as if she is doing it coz she has no other choice!! I felt the scene was too prolonged, and they cd have brought in atharv sooner so that holding on to MS part could be avoided!

& Yes, right now Vividha is in the most pain out of the three! Coz she knows it all, feels the love of atharv and also has to manage the marriage fact with Ravish... she is madly happy for atharv being back, cant be away from him but she cant even fully soak in the happiness and love she is feeling which is back in her life! she is having to rein in her emotions and keep a straight face outside coz the storm in her mind is too strong.. behaving in front of ravish's family as lover to atharv and yet hiding from atharv that she is married!! Wonder how she is gonna cope up with the fact she is lying to her soulmate...

Atharv... yes currently is blissfully ignorant, but when it all comes out, which it will I am scared how would he react, how painful his heart break would be... coz this would be something he would have to go through all alone, coz there he wont even take support of Vividha and would feel all alone in the world! Like he does not know Vividha is married to Ravish, he also doesnt know that she openly took a stand for him, declared her love for him, waited for him and boldly asked for an out from this marriage. He doesnt know that from her body, soul and heart vividha is truly still waiting for him. Just hope he doesnt misconstrue that they lied only coz they were worried for his "safety" only, and doesnt misunderstand her love for him as care only! If that happens, he might very well be on road to part ways from all of them so that they can live happily ever after when he is not there

What I hate in this war of 2 fandoms, that one can not appreciate goodness of one character without becoming a follower of that fandom, or against another!! I liked the way they have written ravish, not a villain or manipulative one but a person who dearly loves and doesnt want to cause any pain.
He is very different from atharv and does not have such strong feminist, progressive thinking (for which I love atharv), may be owing to suman, but he is not afraid to take stand for the right. He is highly observant, clear, responsible and gives space to people in his life. However he doesnt take up issues head-on but looks for short term solutions which would give minimal pain to ppl in present times. While atharv rips off the bandage and comes straight to the point, Ravish lingers it on so as to avoid the pain. But that does not make him bad or weak, its just the way he is due to different upbringing. Its like how he is respectable and most of the times understands to vividha wishes & love for atharva.
But yet, I am a hardcore Vitharv shipper 😳😳coz they are two hearts who love one another with an intensity unparalleled, are in every true sense are made for each other, are only complete when together and are true true Soul mates ❤️!! Hopefully by now he has clearly understood that he would always be, could always be only a friend to Vividha, while Atharv would always be the Love of her live and partner in everything! I really want to continue liking ravish as a parallel lead, whose story arc in future wd emerge separate from vividha but more in terms of his brother bonding with Atharva.. really want to see in future how their bonds builds up after Vitharv come together!!
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