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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: 13thwish

Kiddo, I wanted to say so many things about how proud my Vivi has made me.

But Suman's behavior really pushed me over the edge today. I feel so disillusioned.. Not by Suman specifically, but by the countless REAL women she represents, who actually share this thought process.

My entire adulthood, I have considered myself a hardcore feminist, and I have fought so many people on so many occasions for my fellow women.
But then I hear of mindsets like these, and I wonder, why am I even fighting? For WHOM am I fighting?
Some women seem to want this enslavement for themselves and for others. In the name of culture and tradition, they are so willing to sacrifice basic human rights like freedom of choice.
Maybe we're all better off in a man's world then. Most men cannot really understand a woman's plight, so their actions often stem from ignorance and a lack of empathy.
But some women, they choose this lifestyle with their eyes open. SuSu are the best example of that. Even worse, they shame other women who refuse to join them in their self-made cages.
It truly hurts and disturbs me that women like Suman are real, and I'm struggling to make peace with their closed mindsets.

^^This wasn't the post I came here to write at all, but after everything I've read, all I feel is heartbroken that this is my gender and this is what they think about other women. Despite everything. Even after witnessing that poor girl's neverending struggle. Even after that. So disappointed with this inhumane attitude.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: beagleboy

Firstly, may I just say I have not watched the episode. But from what I have read, I do have some comments.

Because the medium that is Television has such a large impact on the psyche of the populous, one needs to be very careful about what is shown. But, the regressive irresponsible content on Indian TV continues to harm society by tainting its values and giving 'right' and 'wrong' skewed, biased parameters.

A woman, as any man, has the right of choice. And she has the freedom to exercise that choice - as does any man. Choice is the one thing that distinguishes humans from animals. And if we, as women, aren't allowed a choice, aren't we all just animals? Is that how the Indian society wishes to regard women?

Out of the choices that a woman is faced with, one of the MOST important would be the choice of a partner- someone who SHE thinks is fit and worthy of walking the long lonely road that is life; someone in whose company loneliness is but a word and who SHE thinks will teach her to find sunshine on rainy days; who will be a ray of light in dark difficult tunnels. Who will learn as much as he will teach. With whom she can evolve and who will evolve with her by his side. There are great many nice men in this world, but in most cases a woman KNOWS who her right man is out of all these nice men. OFTEN, she is wrong but then it is HER choice to make her mistakes and learn from them. More often than not, she is right - and it is HER choice to lead a happy fulfilling life making only those compromises that she wishes to make.

If she does not have the freedom to make this choice and she is forced into a relationship she neither acknowledges nor wishes to keep, she should have the freedom of choice to remove herself such a relationship. How good her husband is, how he may have it in him to keep her happy - all this is irrelevant. He will not be able to keep her entirely happy and neither will he be happy in a compromise. Two perfectly nice people may get along as friends even, but may not be ideal life partners. Either way, the woman should have this choice. Only an animal can be bound in shackles and chained to something. If a woman is an animal, a goat waiting for slaughter, I say go ahead and chain her to any relationship.

In this case, Vividha neither acknowledges her marriage, nor wishes to fulfil it. She has neither shown any affinity to keep up a charade nor has she offered to pretend. She has basically been a page that cannot be written upon. Neither does she know nor does she want to know. Ravish is nice but how does that matter to her. She has known him for a short period of time. There have been no exchange of words of love or promises. They don't share the same dream. They walk in diverging paths. Things they hold dear are not the same. They are bound neither by fate nor love. How can they be bound by marriage. No. Vividha has a choice. She should have a choice. And if she is making a mistake, let her make the mistake. It is her choice to make the mistake.

The point here is choice and she should have the choice. If it is about empowerment, let her be empowered. If she wants to be free, let her fly - free and wild. But imprison her, bind her in shackles as you would an animal, drag her down the road called marriage in chains like you would a cow to a slaughter house, if you should. But do not call her a woman. Do not call yourself a woman. If this is the state of women in this world, let us all be barbarians. Let us all be animals.

Freedom and choice are the only things that a person, rich or poor, man or woman is entitled to as a birthright - a legacy that we inherit, being humans. So let us all just be animals if we cannot afford our fellow humans that!






Hey beagleboy

Can I say this is a brilliant post and really deserves it's own topic on the main forum rather then here in my review thread.

I do hope you make a separate post where it can be read by more people.

I absolutely love everything you've written here especially about a woman's choice. The choice might be wrong but it is her choice at the end of the day.

As for Vivdha, she has been clear from the beginning. She chose Atharv, she loves only him. Ravish is nice but he is not her choice.

Please do consider making a separate post with this!




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Posted: 9 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: sweetygirl28

Hey whispa šŸ¤—

Jndsd is like if it gives happy episodes it gives in a row. Sad episodes it gives in a row. And I'm exhausted.

Suzi was heartbroken. Lost her son. I don't know if humans rake such decisions in grief like she agreed to suman. And her monologue was heart wrenching.

Suman is a pathetic b**** . She literally manipulated Suzi to agree with her . Not even letting her grieve for her dead son. It seems Self pity is in vash khaandaan genes.

She asked suzi to give vividha away bcoz she considers viv suzi's bahu. In a way she accepted viTharv relation.

No comments abt captain. I ll wait till tomorrow. Coz I just don't get his expressions. I ll understand only when he opens his mouth and speaks. Speaking through eyes is not a gift everyone gets after all.

But very proud of your vividha today. She did what she needed to do. She breathes for atharv. So when the reason to live ended she just decided to end all relationships and move away so that she can at least live in peace with atharvas memories.

There is going to be too much emotional athyachaar on her. I just want atharv to be back like NOW. Poor girl has managed too long without him by her side


Hey SweetyšŸ¤—

I feel I'm reviewing phase one again, phase three has been so good.

Suman was selfish and wrong and was just opportunistic. Sujata was at her lowest and was in a vulnerable state and Suman took advantage of that.

I think the precap was misleading but lets see what Ravish says today.

Vividha makes me prouder and prouder. She was absolutely clear today. She loves Atharv and chooses to live the rest of her life as his widow.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: 13thwish

Kiddo, I wanted to say so many things about how proud my Vivi has made me.

But Suman's behavior really pushed me over the edge today. I feel so disillusioned.. Not by Suman specifically, but by the countless REAL women she represents, who actually share this thought process.

My entire adulthood, I have considered myself a hardcore feminist, and I have fought so many people on so many occasions for my fellow women.
But then I hear of mindsets like these, and I wonder, why am I even fighting? For WHOM am I fighting?
Some women seem to want this enslavement for themselves and for others. In the name of culture and tradition, they are so willing to sacrifice basic human rights like freedom of choice.
Maybe we're all better off in a man's world then. Most men cannot really understand a woman's plight, so their actions often stem from ignorance and a lack of empathy.
But some women, they choose this lifestyle with their eyes open. SuSu are the best example of that. Even worse, they shame other women who refuse to join them in their self-made cages.
It truly hurts and disturbs me that women like Suman are real, and I'm struggling to make peace with their closed mindsets.

^^This wasn't the post I came here to write at all, but after everything I've read, all I feel is heartbroken that this is my gender and this is what they think about other women. Despite everything. Even after witnessing that poor girl's neverending struggle. Even after that. So disappointed with this inhumane attitude.


Hey Wish

I know EXACTLY how you feel.

When I wrote the review I realised wrote more about Suman then I did about Vividha!

You're so right about some women. It's all about culture and tradition and how other women must follow that without questioning it even if it's contrary to what they want or desire. Why do we always say women are womens worst enemy? Because they are! It's the women who need to start changing so that the generation that follows has it easier then they did.

And Sujata and especially Suman are perfect examples here. Despite the unhappy life Suman lived, she wants Vividha to sacrifice everything for her son ignoring her choice.

And it's sad to read so many posts bashing Vividha and calling her all sorts of names becaue she made a choice that hurt their hero. Unfortunately there are many Suman's on the forum too.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: harmanjot

Brilliant post Whispa šŸ¤—


Whispa your Vividha makes me proud again šŸ‘ šŸ‘She becomes the first FL who take this bold step to live life according to your choices only not for others. She discarded the old societal norms which hinders women's rights & their freedom of choice. She inspires us all how to stand & fight against the odds. I think we all have some bits of Vividha inside us but the need is just to identify it. Today actually we seen empowered Vividha who remains true to herself.

No one can portaryed Vividha better then Shivani Suurve! šŸ‘šŸ¼

Vividha choices are crystal clear from phase 1. The day she declared her love for Atharav in front of all family members especially KK & clearly tells her choice that she wants to marry Atharav only.

What Vivi do today is not easier, its requires lots of courage & strength to accepting your love especially in front of your inlaws & husband . She firmly tells her decision to all & declared herself as widow of Atharav Sujata. But Sujata reminds Vividha taking saath pheras with Ravish. But Vividha accepted Atharav as her husband from her mind & soul & their seven vachans are more important than taking pheras. These vachans established serious relationship status goals.
Bascially Marriage is a union of two souls & purely based on trust & love. These sindoor & manglasutra are just symbols of being married in this practical world. Vitharav are soulmates & already married by their minds & the trust & love they share nobody can. Vividha already said to Ravish that this marriage means nothing to her & she always loves Atharav only so i don't think Ravish should pressurise Vividha to hold this marriage for sake of his mother after all major revelations done. Vividha is doing right to free Ravish from this shan marriage which has no future & scope.

Suman is completely gone case for me now . Today what she does its astounds me more . Does she have some decency left that how to behave with a mothet who few hours back performed her son last rites & you simply starting emotionally blackmailing& reminds them what his son do for Atharav. She just ask Sujata to give back Vividha for happines of his son. 😔 😔

Does Vividha is a toy which can pass from one to other. Does you both ladies stop loving ramakant & forget even aftet his death then how Suman assume that Vividha will forget Atharav & starts loving Ravish. Its impossible. But before Suman could ask Vividha already makes her choice.

Sujataji is shattered with Atharav death but deeply inside have hope he will come back. Sujata is right that suman is happy on Atharav death . She hates Atharav from core of her heart. And on which basis she said Atharav also wants Vividha to move on ,while we all remembered their 6th vachan where Vividha refuses Atharav that even death cannot separate them. This behaviour shows how suman is so mean & selfish who cares for herself only.

I felt pitty for Ravish that his own mother wants that her son should live same loveless life which she lived throughout her life.šŸ˜•

Precaps may be misleading.

PS In god eyes everyone is equal but human being makes these demarcation to discriminate women. And the saddest reality is that women is the bigger enemy of other women. Today we all live in 21st century but still we hold same oldage tradition & custom which are irrelevant. Past reformers like Dayanand Saraswati & Rajaram mohan roy who reconstructs the society & do lots works on women rights. Same Atharav Sujata is doing he reconstructs the oldage mindset of society on women. In truer sense Atharav Sujata is pure feminist.






Hey JottiešŸ¤—

I loved the fact that Vividha made her own choice yesterday. She wasn't blackmailed into doing what others wanted. She didn't sacrifice herself and she stayed true to Atharv. How many female leads do we get like her on TV?

Your review is excellent as always Jottie. Loved reading it!
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: ARCHRE

Whispa ... šŸ¤—

I have so much to say ... i have so much to post ... and all my basework is ready ...And then when i am just ready to upload the images ... IGMUR gives up on me ...
Looks as Kaput as suman does ...So I will manage without the images ...😭

VIVIDHA and SUJATHA
When I saw Sujatha and Vividha today ... I remembered all the beautiful family times they had as a family together with Atharv... ( I wanted to post some images here ... but then šŸ˜•)

Vividha has said multiple times that she considers Atharv her husband and herself as Sujatha's daughter in law...They have lived their times as a family together ... In happiness ... In pain ... In sorrow and have found peace in each other without Vividha having actually married Atharv under the tag of society ...But they have lived a family life ...
A life which The V-fam could not even get a glimpse of with Vividha... and now she has taken the next step out of her own will ... transforming herself into Atharv widow... CLARITY to the core ... right or wrong whatever ... Her own will ...

She did not need marriage to get intimate or to accept sujatha and Atharv as family ...
In her mind its done 😳 ...Something the V-fam could not get her to accept inspite of the ' Marraige " that she is in ...


SUMAN
Knowing this of vividha ... that she is completely Atharv's and the delicate moment that she and Sujatha are in their life ...

What does Suman want ? for her to place a deal like that with Sujatha under the pretext of emotional blackmail ...

An object of her sons desire? ... to use ? and display ?
The boy asked for a toy and the parent runs to give it .Here the boy is important ...the toy anyways is just there to be thrown around ...
A lifeless object to display , use and paint pretty in the face of society ? A physical entity who is completely shattered emotionally ... so she is nothing but a living dead ... ?

Suman as a person is pathetic to the core ... being a women all she thinks is about her son and the toy he wants ... Such a pathetic characterization ...when somebody goes on warfront ... you pray that they scome back safe and this women says that she is already ready for his death everytime he goes ...Her pains are all selfcentric ... Self sympathy ... No empathy at all ...

I may have still given her a benefit of doubt if she had placed the request in consideration with Vividhas future ... But asking Sujatha for Vividha ( firstly its vividhas choice and nobody should be allowed to toss her around like that ) because her son is sad is pathetic to the core ...

Many a times I have always felt ... that Women are women's biggest enemies ... Some live a degraded life with no dignity and these women go ahead to set norms for the next generation to live a life as useless as their own...😔 and Suman is a perfect example of this

Ravish ----- Comments reserved ... ... i will wait for today episode to play out ... to see what he thinks about the toy he wants
In the meanwhile Keep crying Buddy for vividha ... Mama is trying hard to give you the toy you want ...

Sujatha ----- Comments reserved ... I am waiting to see her today

PS : When Suman told Sujatha ' Even Atharv would want this ' i was like ... Wait till Atharv comes back and tells you what he wants sweetheart ...Hopefully you will have the same empathy that you have right now ... Luck to you on that šŸ‘šŸ¼

Everyday makes it even more painful to watch Vividha like this ... ATHARV SUJATHA , where are you ?



Hey ArchiešŸ¤—

Suman had no decency yesterday. She took advantage of Sujata's vulnerable state and made everything about her own son's and his feelings. She didn't care that Sujata had just lost her son. She didn't even care about what Vividha wanted. It was all about how she and her son could be happy. People talk about Vividha being selfish when it comes to Atharv but what about Suman? She has taken selfishness to another level.

I just wanted to hug Vividha yesterday. All she wants to do is leave the house and live with Atharv's memories but she can't even do that. People are still telling her what to do.

Atharv needs to come back now and take her away from that crazy family.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: beagleboy

Firstly, may I just say I have not watched the episode. But from what I have read, I do have some comments.

Because the medium that is Television has such a large impact on the psyche of the populous, one needs to be very careful about what is shown. But, the regressive irresponsible content on Indian TV continues to harm society by tainting its values and giving 'right' and 'wrong' skewed, biased parameters.

A woman, as any man, has the right of choice. And she has the freedom to exercise that choice - as does any man. Choice is the one thing that distinguishes humans from animals. And if we, as women, aren't allowed a choice, aren't we all just animals? Is that how the Indian society wishes to regard women?

Out of the choices that a woman is faced with, one of the MOST important would be the choice of a partner- someone who SHE thinks is fit and worthy of walking the long lonely road that is life; someone in whose company loneliness is but a word and who SHE thinks will teach her to find sunshine on rainy days; who will be a ray of light in dark difficult tunnels. Who will learn as much as he will teach. With whom she can evolve and who will evolve with her by his side. There are great many nice men in this world, but in most cases a woman KNOWS who her right man is out of all these nice men. OFTEN, she is wrong but then it is HER choice to make her mistakes and learn from them. More often than not, she is right - and it is HER choice to lead a happy fulfilling life making only those compromises that she wishes to make.

If she does not have the freedom to make this choice and she is forced into a relationship she neither acknowledges nor wishes to keep, she should have the freedom of choice to remove herself such a relationship. How good her husband is, how he may have it in him to keep her happy - all this is irrelevant. He will not be able to keep her entirely happy and neither will he be happy in a compromise. Two perfectly nice people may get along as friends even, but may not be ideal life partners. Either way, the woman should have this choice. Only an animal can be bound in shackles and chained to something. If a woman is an animal, a goat waiting for slaughter, I say go ahead and chain her to any relationship.

In this case, Vividha neither acknowledges her marriage, nor wishes to fulfil it. She has neither shown any affinity to keep up a charade nor has she offered to pretend. She has basically been a page that cannot be written upon. Neither does she know nor does she want to know. Ravish is nice but how does that matter to her. She has known him for a short period of time. There have been no exchange of words of love or promises. They don't share the same dream. They walk in diverging paths. Things they hold dear are not the same. They are bound neither by fate nor love. How can they be bound by marriage. No. Vividha has a choice. She should have a choice. And if she is making a mistake, let her make the mistake. It is her choice to make the mistake.

The point here is choice and she should have the choice. If it is about empowerment, let her be empowered. If she wants to be free, let her fly - free and wild. But imprison her, bind her in shackles as you would an animal, drag her down the road called marriage in chains like you would a cow to a slaughter house, if you should. But do not call her a woman. Do not call yourself a woman. If this is the state of women in this world, let us all be barbarians. Let us all be animals.

Freedom and choice are the only things that a person, rich or poor, man or woman is entitled to as a birthright - a legacy that we inherit, being humans. So let us all just be animals if we cannot afford our fellow humans that!






This is so so well written !!

Only difference between human and Animal is choice and sense if discrimination as to what suits me and what not... WonderfulšŸ‘

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