Why Wasn't the Spilling shown Properly? - Page 3

Originally posted by: ForYourEyesOnly

Originally posted by: kaps22

Like you, I wish the spilling was shown properly. I agree that they must have had a proper shot of the spilling, but they did not show it. I am sure that if they wanted to show it, they could have. After all, this is the same program that showed twice, in slow motion, Baba's attempt at stopping Rohan from entering the igloo.

Coming to the Alpha Male characteristic. To protect his tribe, and to advance self interest, in the real world, you expect and wish the Alpha Male will stand up to the challenge and deceive and eliminate his adversary. Manu did just that. By telling Bani repeatedly that no one will touch each other, he made her believe that he would behave like he did in previous orbits where he suffered her pushes without retaliating. However, he planned to play the game like Bani and go one step further and go for the kill and not just make mild pushes but actually make her spill.

Bani had employed a similar tactic in previous orbit where she agreed there would be no pushing, but kept pushing even to harm her friend Nitibha. She used deception to survive in all previous orbits, but she got deceived by Manu in the final orbit.

For this, Manu has my respect. He played by the rules set by Bigg Boss. Within those rules, he deceived the cunning adversary to eliminate her threat. I do not respect Manveer as much because when the stakes were high in the final orbit, Manveer could not rise above his self conceptions of morality to do what needs to be done to win the game.

When your adversary is playing by a different set of rules and the stakes are high, you want the Alpha Man in your group to leave aside his conceptions of morality and do whatever is necessary to win the game and protect your group and advance its interests.

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

Of course the touching had started before itself and Bani had also said before starting the 2nd orbit that she would nudge, but not push.

And Manu didn't break the rules by spilling Bani's bowl, but they had decided beforehand, so I guess Bani just expected that they would be respected. The task in the last orbit didn't vary much agreed, but they did re-work on the rules between themselves and its all preposterous on Manu's part to make assumptions as yo what Bani would have done. Also she just wanted to reassess the rule and was talking. It was kinda time out and dat's when Manu struck. So yup ppl r most welcome to applaud Manu for his brilliant played game, but I found it sly and underhand and dat's my POV, i guess.

Anyways nice to have a sane discussion.😊

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

Of course the touching had started before itself and Bani had also said before starting the 2nd orbit that she would nudge, but not push.

And Manu didn't break the rules by spilling Bani's bowl, but they had decided beforehand, so I guess Bani just expected that they would be respected. The task in the last orbit didn't vary much agreed, but they did re-work on the rules between themselves and its all preposterous on Manu's part to make assumptions as yo what Bani would have done. Also she just wanted to reassess the rule and was talking. It was kinda time out and dat's when Manu struck. So yup ppl r most welcome to applaud Manu for his brilliant played game, but I found it sly and underhand and dat's my POV, i guess.

Anyways nice to have a sane discussion.😊

Originally posted by: khamosshhh

Congratulations! U r the first person I am reporting on IF ever for going personal...

Ah forget it...not worth it.

Originally posted by: kaps22

I will add one final comment to your words that you found Manu's actions to be sly and underhand.

A few days later, most people will think that Manveer played fairly and Manu is underhand and sly, implying that Manveer is morally superior to Manu and therefore Manveer is more deserving. Yet, if you look closely, in the final orbit, if Bani had nudged and pushed as she had been doing earlier, Manveer and Manu each had a 50% chance of losing. Someone had to act smartly to protect both of them and ensure Bani's loss. And Manu stepped up - he gave up his moral viewpoint and decided to do the dirty work necessary for a Manu-Manveer.

It was because of Manu's dirty work that both Manu and Manveer won. Without Manu's dirty work, Manveer had a 50% chance of loss.

If Manveer was opposed to Manu's dirty work, he should have rejected the idea when it was discussed. Manveer did not. Therefore, Manveer was onboard with the idea of dirty work. But he could not do it for whatever reason, and it was clear when Manu also told him that Manveer cannot, so Manu will.

What is great about Manu is that to assure himself and Manveer of a 100% chance of victory, he was willing to do *all* the dirty work himself and look less moral in the eyes of viewers. Manveer was happy to enjoy the fruits of dirty work done by Manu. Therefore, Manu is more Alpha Male than Manveer for me. Manveer is quite beta because when the stakes were high, he could not do what was required to win; Manveer's actions were risking defeat for either Manu or himself.

People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. Manveer enjoyed the fruits of victory only because Manu was ready to do dirty work on their behalf.