How mentioning Bani-Om incident can help Manu to win that Case.. ?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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When Bani pushed Baba even those gave her a free pass for that reaction who're neither her fans nor condone violence.. neither she was questioned by Salman nor Bigg Boss did any ninda as he normally do in violence cases.. in contrast Nitibha who questioned her for that push was criticized by all.. then I wonder how come mentioning that incident can prove any point in Manu's favor.. neither it is proving that as Bani pushed baba herself so she's pro violence so she will support violence in this case too nor it is proving that she was wrong in that case too so she'll support the wrong in this case too.. mentioning this case was actually proving Manu wrong as he was fighting for Baba who was the culprit of Bani-Om case.. if he was fighting Rohan's case then he could have prove that as Bani was not questioned for that push so Rohan should not be strictly punished for this push.. but I wonder how mentioning Bani-Om incident can help Manu to win that Case.. 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thats exactly what a lot of us said in the DDt, this whole arguement actually strengthen Rohans case
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My take:

In a legal realm, public opinions on a certain action will not normally factor. It was not a question of how right or wrong Bani was, in pushing Baba - the fact remains, that she did indeed push him, and not in self-defence/accidentally. In other words, legally, Manu did not need to prove that she was wrong in pushing Baba - just that she did push him.

Bani was Rohan's (opposing counsel) witness against Baba (Manu's client). Discrediting witness testimony that may hurt your client's case is normal and perfectly fine. And if the opposing counsel's witness is guilty of pushing Manu's client, then she's not a credible witness against him - that was the only point of that line of questioning, the way I see it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Very true. First of all the task is "who is guilty amount gourav and swami om"?

Mr. Manu used this opportunity in blaming everyone else and don't have any case against hour about.

Lopa / Bani gave a statement about swami om's demeanor and violation of rules during the incidents and judge should have considered them.

Instead of that since manu showed a bunch of medicines and said om is old man , he came out of jail. There is absolutely no allegation on Mr. Gaurav or anyone gave any statement against him. Just the stupid lawyer Manu kept passing statements without proof.

Totally biased and injustice
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Originally posted by: SP2684

My take:


In a legal realm, public opinions on a certain action will not normally factor. It was not a question of how right or wrong Bani was, in pushing Baba - the fact remains, that she did indeed push him. In other words, legally, Manu did not need to prove that she was wrong in pushing Baba - just that she did push him.

Bani was Rohan's (opposing counsel) witness against Baba (Manu's client). Discrediting witness testimony that may hurt your client's case is normal and perfectly fine. And if the opposing counsel's witness is guilty of pushing Manu's client, then she's not a credible witness against him - that was the only point of that line of questioning, the way I see it.


You can not separate what Bani did and how it was perceived by all to prove your point.. if even the show makers are saying that she was right in that case then either you're idiot to quote that example in your case to prove you wrong.. or you're too smart and your intention is not winning this case but something else..
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Originally posted by: -shabz-

Thats exactly what a lot of us said in the DDt, this whole arguement actually strengthen Rohans case


Exactly - This argument would be great if he was Rohan's Lawyer..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del


You can not separate what Bani did and how it was perceived by all to prove your point.. if even the show makers are saying that she was right in that case then either you're idiot to quote that example in your case to prove you wrong.. or you're too smart and your intention is not winning this case but something else..


That may be the case if Manu was discussing this issue on a WKW, for example - and dissecting it. Not in a courtroom - like I said, how it was perceived by all, rarely factors therein.

As for the show-makers saying she was 'right' through their silence on the matter - who have the show-makers called wrong for violence, other than Rohan? Even the other day - both Baba and Bani were given a free pass for their respective pushes, while Rohan was punished. Why was Bani right to push Baba then and Rohan wrong? Simply because Baba complained against Rohan. That's how the show-makers roll.
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Originally posted by: SP2684


That may be the case if Manu was discussing this issue on a WKW, for example - and dissecting it. Not in a courtroom - like I said, how it was perceived by all, rarely factors therein.

As for the show-makers saying she was 'right' through their silence on the matter - who have the show-makers called wrong for violence, other than Rohan? Even the other day - both Baba and Bani were given a free pass for their respective pushes, while Rohan was punished. Why was Bani right to push Baba then and Rohan wrong? Simply because Baba complained against Rohan. That's how the show-makers roll.


Show makers are wrong at many times.. they have showed biased behavior and double standards on countless instances.. but the point is either Manu should have guts like Rohan to say openly that Bigg Boss is biased.. or he should not quote that incident as example while pretending that he don't think otherwise..
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Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del


Show makers are wrong at many times.. they have showed biased behavior and double standards on countless instances.. but the point is either Manu should have guts like Rohan to say openly that Bigg Boss is biased.. or he should not quote that incident as example while pretending that he don't think otherwise..


Perhaps I was unclear in my original post - As Baba's lawyer, it doesn't matter at all what Manu thinks - his point was simply to discredit Bani's testimony, and legally, that would be done once it was proven that Bani herself has pushed Baba.

What Manu thinks, matters outside of the courtroom - hence my example that were he dissecting it as himself, then he shouldn't be questioning the why's of Bani's push, because he also doesn't think she did anything wrong. But even as Baba's lawyer, he wasn't questioning her reasons - all he was trying to prove was that she pushed Baba - what he or anyone thinks about it, doesn't feature.

And I don't see how the show-makers viewpoint factors at all - it is ever-changing and completely biased - what they think on Bani's actions is hardly credible, considering they didn't find her wrong the day before either, just as they didn't find Baba wrong.
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Originally posted by: SP2684


Perhaps I was unclear in my original post - As Baba's lawyer, it doesn't matter at all what Manu thinks - his point was simply to discredit Bani's testimony, and legally, that would be done once it was proven that Bani herself has pushed Baba.

What Manu thinks, matters outside of the courtroom - hence my example that were he dissecting it as himself, then he shouldn't be questioning the why's of Bani's push, because he also doesn't think she did anything wrong. But even as Baba's lawyer, he wasn't questioning her reasons - all he was trying to prove was that she pushed Baba - what he or anyone thinks about it, doesn't feature.

And I don't see how the show-makers viewpoint factors at all - it is ever-changing and completely biased - what they think on Bani's actions is hardly credible, considering they didn't find her wrong the day before either, just as they didn't find Baba wrong.


And that's what I'm saying too.. mentioning that incident was not discrediting Bani's testimony because her reaction was considered justified and right by all.. so as I said in my op, neither it was proving that as Bani pushed baba herself so she's pro violence so she will support violence in this case too nor it was proving that as she was wrong in that case too so she'll support the wrong in this case too..

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