How mentioning Bani-Om incident can help Manu to win that Case.. ? - Page 4

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SP2684


No that wouldn't work - the law doesn't change simply because some, or even many, think that X person 'deserved' the push. The push, from a legal perspective, would only be officially supported if it was in self-defence/accidental. But not simply because Baba 'deserved' it. If that was the case, everyone would be taking the law into their hands because they feel the other deserves it. How much he deserved it may factor were Bani on trial, as part of her defence - but it doesn't add credibility to her testimony.

Again - the point is only to discredit her testimony in that particular instance - and just the fact that she pushed Baba is enough for that, legally.


Okay.. getting your point now.. I was considering Bigg Boss house and Bigg Boss rules and from that perspective she was neither suspect nor guilty in that case.. but yes if we talk about real world then legally Justifiable homicide/violence is the one in which it was done in self defense or accidentally.. so perhaps Manu was following that..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: panacea

Yes. IF the trial was to determine if Bani's push was legally correct, she would be guilty.(in the Bani Vs Om case) THE law doesn't justify 'based on how our reactions' would be. THE law is framed based on reactions and classifies which acts are legal and which illegal.
But Manu cannot justify that Bani is not a reliable witness for this case, based her actions in the past which had no relevance to this case.

And yes, I'm getting your point too.. once a criminal is not always a criminal.. so even though I understand what Manu apparently wanted to do but it was still a ridiculous example to discredit Bani's testimony..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: panacea

Yes. IF the trial was to determine if Bani's push was legally correct, she would be guilty.(in the Bani Vs Om case) THE law doesn't justify 'based on how our reactions' would be. THE law is framed based on reactions and classifies which acts are legal and which illegal.
But Manu cannot justify that Bani is not a reliable witness for this case, based her actions in the past which had no relevance to this case.



Again I agree to your first point, but not as regards this case - Manu's point was based on proving that there is, at the very least, great potential for bias/conflict of interest as regards Bani and Baba, considering what went down previously. And from that perspective, her push to him, being not in self-defence/accidental, is enough to discredit her testimony.

If it was anyone other than Baba against whom she was testifying, I would agree with you - just because she's pushed in the past, doesn't necessarily make her a non-reliable witness at present. But in this case - I believe it would discredit her testimony.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del

And yes, I'm getting your point too.. once a criminal is not always a criminal.. so even though I understand what Manu apparently wanted to do but it was still a ridiculous example to discredit Bani's testimony..

Yes in this case Manu had no business to drag Banks old acts to discredit her as a reliable witness.
The judge was biased and acting as a puppet of Manu and did not possess the faculty to think and act independently.
I generally read your's and SP2684's postings as they are structured, logical and builds tempo in each successive rounds. (though the premise may not be correct- for me).

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: panacea

Yes in this case Manu had no business to drag Banks old acts to discredit her as a reliable witness.
The judge was biased and acting as a puppet of Manu and did not possess the faculty to think and act independently.
I generally read your's and SP2684's postings as they are structured, logical and builds tempo in each successive rounds. (though the premise may not be correct- for me).


Your opinion is welcome in our discussion.. as I personally don't know much about law so knowing a view point with law knowledge is enlightening.. the purpose of my argument is never to win the debate but to reach the truth..

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