Mr.Bijoy and Sona's interesting logic!!!!!!!! - Page 3

Originally posted by: M.soni

Hi5😛

Originally posted by: tia.o

You have made good points. But here's my two cents worth.

1. Bijoy adores his daughters and constantly teases his son. But he never used his son to manipulate his daughter or vice versa. Ishwari used Neha not going to honeymoon to manipulate Dev and Sona not going to theirs, yet is arranging Riya's wedding when Neha's marriage is breaking up.

2. Bijoy Bose never called Sona Daddy's girl nor imposed his decisions on her. A man is not Mamma's boy if he loves his mother or his mother loves her son. But when the mom commands and the man jumps without asking how high and doesn't give a crap who he hurt in the process (Example: Break up and recently aunty drama), then he is indeed a Mamma's boy or puppet. An adult human being knows how to use their own brain.

3. I don't know about others, but I at least criticised Sonakshi for not wearing the lehenga Ishwari gave her at her wedding. There was multiple posts on it as I recall. So she was criticised for it.

4. Sonakshi was told by Dev that Non-veg can be at the wedding and he will convince Ishwari. Should Sona claim she knows Ishwari better than her own son and read their mind? If I tell someone something about my mother, will they believe me or pretend to know my mother better than I? I guess knowing his tendencies to lie, she should just never believe him but what to do? Love is stupid.

5. Bijoy Bose sent them outside his house. Dev and Sona have spent many late nights just outside Sonakshi's house drinking tea, dancing in the rain or chatting. What made Sona decide to take a walk at 2 a.m. I don't know. But I did criticise her for it. But one thing no one can claim that Bijoy Bose didn't even ask about his son-in-law while celebrating his daughter's birthday and cutting cake with her with his family. Ishwari did.

6. Bijoy Bose never taught his son or daughter cooking. But they did household chores. Sona put her bed and clothes away herself and there was no indication that Asha was running after Saurabh doing those chores for him. They may not have done cooking, but they were not as useless as unable to figure out how to fold a square piece of handkerchief. Sona didn't ask Dev to do vaccuming or dusting. She asked him to fold his own clothes (not hers) and put them away to his own wardrobe so that Ishwari doesn't keep peeking into their personal wardrobe which they both share which you have to admit is very creepy for a mother to do in a married couple's room. Even for this little thing, Dev had to lie and go behind her back running to his Mummy. Mamma's boy? You bet.

She never asked Dev to cook or do any heavy activity that his manly muscle can't handle.

7. Regarding wedding custom, yes, Bose family followed their custom. But that's what he said before the wedding that the wedding will happen in Bengali ritual. Dixits should have insisted to have the wedding with both customs and not just one.

But then Ishwari was desperate to get this marriage done so that she can get her Goddess status back. But the moment the wedding was over, after the fish fiasco, she sent all of Bijoy's gift to his daughter and son-in-law back without once asking Sonakshi or Dev even though the fish tray never touched them. Yet, kept the dining table and ate on it where the fish tray was put. So the true colours came out soon enough.

8. Regarding Neha, Sonakshi should have stayed out and she was. She didn't interfere until Ishwari used Neha to interfere in her life and disrupt her plans. If they wanted Sonakshi to stay out, then they can't use Neha's problem conveniently appear or disappear to suit their own agenda.

9. Regarding Saurabh's business, Sona kept it a secret at Saurabh's request. True. But she didn't lie. Dev has shown as much interest in Sona's family since marriage (beyond sending Diwali gift or when he needs to get Sonakshi back) as I don't know, the price of onion.

Now let's see how many times Dev picked up a phone and called Saurabh or Elena to see how they are doing. Ummm... Never. Sona constantly keeps asking about and keeps seeing his family's problem right in front of her eyes whether she wants to know about them or see them or not. But Dev never asks about them assuming since they are not making an issue about it like his family, they are fine. To be treated like family and for people to approach you, you have to behave like a family first. But Dev has proven with his recent aunty act that he is not family.

Family nibhane se banti hain warna door ke rishtedar ko bhi log family kehte hain, lekin apna problem share nehin karte.

10. People keep forgetting because she is such an unassuming person, but Dida is a single mother too and Asha and Bijoy lives with her. Ishwari's rightful comparison should be with her, not with Asha.

Ishwari has daughters. Dadi has an only son. But yet she opened her heart to her daughter-in-law and never treated her like an outsider or enemy. If she had, Asha won't be so comfortable with her today.

11. And finally the most important one as to why Ishwari's all issues seem bigger than Bijoy's. Dev and Sona live with Ishwari and not Bijoy.

I have no doubt had they lived with Bijoy, they'd have the same issues, may be more.

But since they have to live with Ishwari, her problems are more evident.

So the solution is that Dev should buy a house across the street from his and live there with Sonakshi so that both Bijoy and Ishwari's problem are seen in small doses.

Originally posted by: Divine-Pearl

Difference is Bijoy is not abnormally obsessed with his daughter. He would be the happiest person to know his daughter spending time with her husband, he wont spend entire night sitting on dinning table thinking about first night of his daughter with her husband. Most important he wont start cooking in 'baba adam era stove' or take sleeping pills just becoz his daughter got into a relationship.

Problem is not partiality, problem is weird and abnormal addiction.

Of course, no parent has a problem if the daughter spends time with her husband but at the same time, they will not be as thrilled if the son spends time with daughter in law. This is the Kadwa sach of most family dynamic. When I talked about grey shades of Bijoy, I am not justifying Ishwaris behavior by any means. I am just saying that bijoy is a character by himself. He is loud vocal and points fingers easily without any any self analysis.

Originally posted by: tia.o

You have made good points. But here's my two cents worth.

1. Bijoy adores his daughters and constantly teases his son. But he never used his son to manipulate his daughter or vice versa. Ishwari used Neha not going to honeymoon to manipulate Dev and Sona not going to theirs, yet is arranging Riya's wedding when Neha's marriage is breaking up.

2. Bijoy Bose never called Sona Daddy's girl nor imposed his decisions on her. A man is not Mamma's boy if he loves his mother or his mother loves her son. But when the mom commands and the man jumps without asking how high and doesn't give a crap who he hurt in the process (Example: Break up and recently aunty drama), then he is indeed a Mamma's boy or puppet. An adult human being knows how to use their own brain.

3. I don't know about others, but I at least criticised Sonakshi for not wearing the lehenga Ishwari gave her at her wedding. There was multiple posts on it as I recall. So she was criticised for it.

4. Sonakshi was told by Dev that Non-veg can be at the wedding and he will convince Ishwari. Should Sona claim she knows Ishwari better than her own son and read their mind? If I tell someone something about my mother, will they believe me or pretend to know my mother better than I? I guess knowing his tendencies to lie, she should just never believe him but what to do? Love is stupid.

5. Bijoy Bose sent them outside his house. Dev and Sona have spent many late nights just outside Sonakshi's house drinking tea, dancing in the rain or chatting. What made Sona decide to take a walk at 2 a.m. I don't know. But I did criticise her for it. But one thing no one can claim that Bijoy Bose didn't even ask about his son-in-law while celebrating his daughter's birthday and cutting cake with her with his family. Ishwari did.

6. Bijoy Bose never taught his son or daughter cooking. But they did household chores. Sona put her bed and clothes away herself and there was no indication that Asha was running after Saurabh doing those chores for him. They may not have done cooking, but they were not as useless as unable to figure out how to fold a square piece of handkerchief. Sona didn't ask Dev to do vaccuming or dusting. She asked him to fold his own clothes (not hers) and put them away to his own wardrobe so that Ishwari doesn't keep peeking into their personal wardrobe which they both share which you have to admit is very creepy for a mother to do in a married couple's room. Even for this little thing, Dev had to lie and go behind her back running to his Mummy. Mamma's boy? You bet.

She never asked Dev to cook or do any heavy activity that his manly muscle can't handle.

7. Regarding wedding custom, yes, Bose family followed their custom. But that's what he said before the wedding that the wedding will happen in Bengali ritual. Dixits should have insisted to have the wedding with both customs and not just one.

But then Ishwari was desperate to get this marriage done so that she can get her Goddess status back. But the moment the wedding was over, after the fish fiasco, she sent all of Bijoy's gift to his daughter and son-in-law back without once asking Sonakshi or Dev even though the fish tray never touched them. Yet, kept the dining table and ate on it where the fish tray was put. So the true colours came out soon enough.

8. Regarding Neha, Sonakshi should have stayed out and she was. She didn't interfere until Ishwari used Neha to interfere in her life and disrupt her plans. If they wanted Sonakshi to stay out, then they can't use Neha's problem conveniently appear or disappear to suit their own agenda.

9. Regarding Saurabh's business, Sona kept it a secret at Saurabh's request. True. But she didn't lie. Dev has shown as much interest in Sona's family since marriage (beyond sending Diwali gift or when he needs to get Sonakshi back) as I don't know, the price of onion.

Now let's see how many times Dev picked up a phone and called Saurabh or Elena to see how they are doing. Ummm... Never. Sona constantly keeps asking about and keeps seeing his family's problem right in front of her eyes whether she wants to know about them or see them or not. But Dev never asks about them assuming since they are not making an issue about it like his family, they are fine. To be treated like family and for people to approach you, you have to behave like a family first. But Dev has proven with his recent aunty act that he is not family.

Family nibhane se banti hain warna door ke rishtedar ko bhi log family kehte hain, lekin apna problem share nehin karte.

10. People keep forgetting because she is such an unassuming person, but Dida is a single mother too and Asha and Bijoy lives with her. Ishwari's rightful comparison should be with her, not with Asha.

Ishwari has daughters. Dadi has an only son. But yet she opened her heart to her daughter-in-law and never treated her like an outsider or enemy. If she had, Asha won't be so comfortable with her today.

11. And finally the most important one as to why Ishwari's all issues seem bigger than Bijoy's. Dev and Sona live with Ishwari and not Bijoy.

I have no doubt had they lived with Bijoy, they'd have the same issues, may be more.

But since they have to live with Ishwari, her problems are more evident.

So the solution is that Dev should buy a house across the street from his and live there with Sonakshi so that both Bijoy and Ishwari's problem are seen in small doses.

Agree with you completely... 👏
But not agreeing with you about Sonakshi not wearing the lehenga. Why should she had to wear it when its not in their custom? When it was clearly informed earlier that bengali wedding will happen, so there must not be any confusion or MUs regarding the attire.
Neha was supposed to wear ranveer's lehenga as it was there in their custom, not becoz Ishwari respected ranveer's custom. I guess ranveer and ishwari followed the same custom, so there wasn't any clash between their custom.

But yes, out of courtesy, Sonakshi should've discussed about the lehenga with Ishwari and had told that in bengali custom saree is worn, not a lehenga, so what can be done? They both could've come to some conclusion. Discussion never happened, so only Sonakshi can't be blamed.

TM, sorry can't agree with you. except the last two points.

The issue is that in order to show the female lead as all competent, they have totally shown Ishwari in a bad light. Her possessiveness is very real, as is Neha's anger... and had this been portrayed correctly, the serial would have been at a different level. I mean, why should they show the possessiveness in a bad light only? It could have been a natural progression for both Sona and Ishwari to accept each other's place in Dev's life, but unfortunately they have not taken that path.

Originally posted by: ifuser

Of course, no parent has a problem if the daughter spends time with her husband but at the same time, they will not be as thrilled if the son spends time with daughter in law. This is the Kadwa sach of most family dynamic. When I talked about grey shades of Bijoy, I am not justifying Ishwaris behavior by any means. I am just saying that bijoy is a character by himself. He is loud vocal and points fingers easily without any any self analysis.

Originally posted by: Divine-Pearl

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Which parents would not like son spending time with wife? That's what I call abnormal. At least I have not seen any parents mourning just becoz son spending night with DIL, or going to honeymoon with his legally wedded wife.

Not saying you are trying to justify Ishwari, you have made that point quite clear in your post that you are not trying to justify ish. I pointed out the reason why ishwari's all action are checked with microscope here. She is abnormally obsessed with son, and vice versa. Bijoy doesnt treat dev as lovrr of his wife, Ishwari behaves like sona is her sautan, not bahu. Otherwise a person like bijoy is very much needed when you have calm mom like Asha and manipulative MIL like Ishwari. Someone is needed to kick ass of worthless in laws who is treating you like a crap.

"Bijoy is very much needed when you have calm mom like Asha and manipulative MIL like Ishwari. Someone is needed to kick ass of worthless in laws who is treating you like a crap."
Hahahaha good one! I agree with you!
But if SIL like Ranveer in Dev's place then it would end the relationship. Sometimes, being loud n rude will damage the relationship. Depending on who on other end also matter.
But definitely that kick is necessary if the person is really not worth to live with

Originally posted by: ...MonaCo...

The issue is that in order to show the female lead as all competent, they have totally shown Ishwari in a bad light. Her possessiveness is very real, as is Neha's anger... and had this been portrayed correctly, the serial would have been at a different level. I mean, why should they show the possessiveness in a bad light only? It could have been a natural progression for both Sona and Ishwari to accept each other's place in Dev's life, but unfortunately they have not taken that path.

Loved your take, and I agree with most of your points, but I blame it on the cvs to have not executed a track well (which is why Ishwari has limited supporters).

All d characters are flawed ...some less n some more ..