Creatives, please help me feel bad not mad

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Dear creatives,

Thank you for bringing back the intensity and passion (dare we hope?) to the Dev/Sona equation. Post the accident phase as they became friends and later a couple in love these key ingredients for an enjoyable love story kept getting diluted and almost got eliminated as we reached the breakup.

I know, I know there are many on this forum (including me) who have a bone to pick (actually many) with you on what you sacrificed to bring these ingredients back such as -

- Made Dev look bad in the way the break up was scripted
- Prior to that made both Sona and Dev look out of character for several episodes
- Deviated from the original subtle/mature approach to their break up. There are many in this forum itself who signed up for this show for that approach
- Introduced more drama than what this audience could stomach
- I could go on and on but I think you get the point..

However, I am willing to look past all of this because the episodes since the break up indicate that I may get the following rewards in return for putting up with the above nonsense

- Intensity and passion
- Finally a Dev who pines for her (love came too easily to him)
- Return of Dev and Sona. In their last few scenes before break up, I felt I was being given Shaheer and Erica goofing around as friends versus a newly and crazily in love couple Dev and Sona
- A Dev who at some point will have to win over and later woo Sona back (viewers expect this now given how the break up happened). If it had gone the way of the show's original promos, it would look out of place to see him woo her
-Dev winning over Bose family and regaining their trust
-etc.

BUT (finally I come to the point of the post)

For me to get into the proper frame of mind to appreciate all this goodness coming my way, you really need to pull up your socks and work on Ish's character

In today's episode I really wanted to feel bad for Dev and Sona so I can truly appreciate the re entry of passion and intensity.

Instead I got mad...

I was unable to connect to their heartache (I so wanted to) because you scripted the reason for it so lazily in the form of Ish's poorly written character of late. They are crying and heartbroken with your new sad BG score playing in the background but it all looks so pointless when in the very next scene the reason for their misery is so unconvincing. Since her character is being scripted so poorly of late, shorn of nuance, it takes away from almost every interaction she has on the show.

Creatives - please help me feel bad, not mad


Regards,
A viewer who has seen all the previous episodes and remembers how well written the characters including Ish were
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great post
I for now am beyond mad ..Easwari character is shaping up to be a sadist and cringeworthy , with her children and her brother looking like clowns...thank god they are retaining Neha character. As a mother Easwari behaviour is certainly a put off...subtlety where thou are u?



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Posted: 9 years ago
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I really feel for u dear ... For past few episodes I am really mad at CVS for character assassination of Ishwari ... She is a complex character , but was not a negative character , but they are butchering her ... They had handled it well before , even during birthday saree incident we all felt bad for her not wearing the saree , but they had given us the reason for why Dev's gifted sarees hold a great emotion for her ... But for past few episodes I am not able to connect to her at all ...
Lazy to write so copy pasting what I wrote about her

You cannot please everyone all the time ... Period ! At some point or other you are bound to disappoint someone ... And when those someones are you loved ones , it will be more excruciating ... But ur utmost disappointment is when u fail urself , when you are very well aware that you are wrong , but can't do anything about it but being helpless ...

The guilt was killing Ishwari that whose happiness she valued the most , is now bringing her nothing but pain ... The more she tried to lie to herself , the more she was becoming another person , one she didnt even know existed in her ... In the hospital episode when she was talking to mamaji , I could feel her frustration ...

Having said that , I was shocked that she could even pass a comment on their break-up next day ... "It may be right for everyone's (???) happiness "... I really didnt know whom she referred here ... I totally lost it now ... Least she could have done was to thank her for taking a good care of her and wish for a better life ... And today not even an ounce of guilt , when she talks about his break-up ...

Sona was right "You would have been feeling better now "... Yes she may not have to pretend to be happy for them anymore , and doesn't even has to face her everyday, and to top it all , she is her son's top priority as always , and she got that assurance back ... She can rejoice in that moment of comfort , but she doesnt know it will pass soon ... She doesn't know yet , with this break-up her son's heart also broke , n its beyond repair ... And he had distanced himself from the only person who could heal him , for her ...

She can try all she wants ,to be free of this guilt by trying to get Sona a good groom , or badgering Dev with love ... But all the sweetness of her halwa is not enough to eradicate the bitterness she brought in his life and fill the hollowness she created in his heart ...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Found it😃
You always manage to speak what I'm thinking!! I was thinking the same exact thing. Yesterday a lot of our forum members had tears in their eyes after watching Dev and Sona cry miserably. But I was sitting there fuming at Ishwari. Her nonsensical behaviour is taking the focus away from my fav couple and it's getting on my nerves now. She has reached the point of no return for me. No matter what she does, how much she repents I don't think I can ever find myself to have the same respect I had for her in the initial episodes.
The CVs are making Shaheer potray such intense expressions so that the audience starts sympathising with Dev, and it's working. The whole forum's hearts are collectively melting watching Dev be miserable. But I would still need some more convincing before I can truly manage to forget the injustice done to Dev's character by the CVs. The 2 break up episodes shook me up. Even though I've had a lot of complaints with Dev I never expected him to have the reaction he had while breaking up. Him silencing her to talk softly as she tried to come to terms with what was happening was the most difficult moment for me to watch.
I guess the jealousy track and some more yearning for Sonakshi would probably help me sympathize with him more than I do currently.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Great post...
I've always tried to understand ishwaris character... It has loads of shades n layers...

But from the time she started taunting Sona... And specially from yesterday's epi I'm not sure if she's really in need of a physiatrist... Look at the way she is trying to convince herself that she knows her son... Look at the way she explains mamaji that her son is fine...

Really not able understand if they ve butchered her character or doing it on purpose for drama element
One more point... Ishwaris possessiveness if very strong n so if devs love for Sona... Of not for this OTT ishwari... Dev would have never thought of leaving Sona ever... He would have convinced ishwari..
But his extreme fear that his mom won't ever be happy with his love Sona broke him n made him take this decision

Remember Sona saying that she feels sorry coz he can't take any decision on his own...N that hit him... He did say he had the freedom to take his decisions...

I want to see from which phase of the story does ishwari realise her son is completely broken n shattered because of her over love... How he cries in extreme pain alone... How he is getting restless every min n yearning to see Sona... That will be an interesting phase...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bookworm123

Dear creatives,

Thank you for bringing back the intensity and passion (dare we hope?) to the Dev/Sona equation. Post the accident phase as they became friends and later a couple in love these key ingredients for an enjoyable love story kept getting diluted and almost got eliminated as we reached the breakup.

I know, I know there are many on this forum (including me) who have a bone to pick (actually many) with you on what you sacrificed to bring these ingredients back such as -

- Made Dev look bad in the way the break up was scripted
- Prior to that made both Sona and Dev look out of character for several episodes
- Deviated from the original subtle/mature approach to their break up. There are many in this forum itself who signed up for this show for that approach
- Introduced more drama than what this audience could stomach
- I could go on and on but I think you get the point..

However, I am willing to look past all of this because the episodes since the break up indicate that I may get the following rewards in return for putting up with the above nonsense

- Intensity and passion
- Finally a Dev who pines for her (love came too easily to him)
- Return of Dev and Sona. In their last few scenes before break up, I felt I was being given Shaheer and Erica goofing around as friends versus a newly and crazily in love couple Dev and Sona
- A Dev who at some point will have to win over and later woo Sona back (viewers expect this now given how the break up happened). If it had gone the way of the show's original promos, it would look out of place to see him woo her
-Dev winning over Bose family and regaining their trust
-etc.

BUT (finally I come to the point of the post)

For me to get into the proper frame of mind to appreciate all this goodness coming my way, you really need to pull up your socks and work on Ish's character

In today's episode I really wanted to feel bad for Dev and Sona so I can truly appreciate the re entry of passion and intensity.

Instead I got mad...

I was unable to connect to their heartache (I so wanted to) because you scripted the reason for it so lazily in the form of Ish's poorly written character of late. They are crying and heartbroken with your new sad BG score playing in the background but it all looks so pointless when in the very next scene the reason for their misery is so unconvincing. Since her character is being scripted so poorly of late, shorn of nuance, it takes away from almost every interaction she has on the show.

Creatives - please help me feel bad, not mad


Regards,
A viewer who has seen all the previous episodes and remembers how well written the characters including Ish were



I can empathize with you because i was also one of you. but then the path taken has rattled me so much that i have stopped watching KRPKAB on TV and now am hoping and praying that not Dev, Ishwari or Sona, but the CV's redeem themselves!

My apple iPAD has not seen any addition in episodes beyond 118, including those carrot Devakshi scenes towards the later part. For me, those and the current episodes just do not exist.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: gemini54

Great post

I for now am beyond mad ..Easwari character is shaping up to be a sadist and cringeworthy , with her children and her brother looking like clowns...thank god they are retaining Neha character. As a mother Easwari behaviour is certainly a put off...subtlety where thou are u?






Thank you my friend.

Given this is the premise of the show all of us assumed they would have a convincing script and character graph for her in this stage of the show. To our dismay it appears they have drama and not nuance in their arsenal.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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@desigirl

Exactly. She was not expected to be a villain and certainly not such a confused one.


Have they forgotten that Ishwari spent so much time counselling Sona when Kushal's family decided against the alliance?? She was portrayed as being quite perceptive then.

Even during the Natasha track, she was attuned to Dev's feelings. Dev too repeatedly came up to her to discuss the alliance and his doubts. It really did look like they were a mother son duo who talk things through. She even made a reference to her insecurity over her place in his life after marriage and he immediately assured her that her place was unique..

Suddenly to accommodate the main track of the show, the characters and their relationships have been altered.
Edited by bookworm123 - 9 years ago
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The problem here is that the writers have no idea what they want to do..Is Ishwari a crazy woman who has lost her head thanks to her intense insecurity and is in desperate need of psychiatric help OR is she just a mother who has really struggled in life and is insanely invested in her son and is finding it really tough to cope with the changes in his life? The main issue here is that they want to show the second version but they end up going with the first version and still expect us to look at her as a poor mother struggling with her feelings..You cant have the cake and eat it too CVs 😆 You have a fantastic actor on board..And Ishwari as a character had so much potential..You have now reduced her to a crazy woman who is off the rails and will do everything in her power to keep her son all for herself without an ounce of guilt..This will only get worse when you redeem her and make all the characters justify her actions..I can almost see Sonakshi giving a lecture on why Ishwari is not wrong and she understands why she did whatever she did once these two patch up after 50 or 100 or how many ever episodes 😆
Edited by rogerrocks - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

The problem here is that the writers have no idea what they want to do..Is Ishwari a crazy woman who has lost her head thanks to her intense insecurity and is in desperate need of psychiatric help OR is she just a mother who has really struggled in life and is insanely invested in her son and is finding it really tough to cope with the changes in his life? The main issue here is that they want to show the second version but they end up going with the first version and still expect us to look at her as a poor mother struggling with her feelings..You cant have the cake and eat it too CVs 😆 You have a fantastic actor on board..And Ishwari as a character had so much potential..You have now reduced her to a crazy woman who is off the rails and will do everything in her power to keep her son all for herself without an ounce of guilt..This will only get worse when you redeem her and make all the characters justify her actions..I can almost see Sonakshi giving a lecture on why Ishwari is not wrong and she understands why she did whatever she did once these two patch up after 50 or 100 or how many ever episodes 😆


👏👏 All of THIS!! 🤗
@bold: I can see it all coming.. 😆🤣 And they trying to keep Sona in the good books of potential MILs with sons like Dev...😉

May be it's working.. And we couldn't see the kitchen world..😆

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