Torture on women in Punjab and Haryana

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Few days back I was reading an article about a Punjabi lady called Siminder Kaur who lives and works in US with her husband. Last year,she left her 15 months old son with her in-laws and when she returned to india to take him back,her in-laws didn't allow her to even see his face.For the past 8 months, she is fighting legal battle to get back her son without anyone's support. No one is supporting her,neither the police, government, US consulate.Even her husband is not supporting her.
I got to know from my Punjabi friend that she is not the only woman.Many women are facing such ordeal,specially in punjab and haryana.

Why is it so?Some men say indian law is woman friendly. If that's the case then why is this woman not getting justice? My friend said her in-laws are upset with her because she didn't bring enough dowry that's why they are filing false charges against her and not letting her meet her son.

Agreed she made the biggest mistake of her life by leaving her infant son but how ruthless and cruel can be her husband and in-laws to separate a mother and child from each other.

Are such cases really common in punjab and haryana? Why is the government, law,police nor doing anything about it?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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You are narrating only one side of the story, the wife's side, from which it is impossible to judge what happened and who is at fault.
Some men told you that Indian law is woman friendly, meaning biased towards women, and they are absolutely right in that. They didn't say that society in general, the police, etc. are biased towards women. If she registers a case and drags her in-laws and husband to court, most of the chances are that she will get a ruling in her favour, that's where the woman friendly law bit comes in.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

You are narrating only one side of the story, the wife's side, from which it is impossible to judge what happened and who is at fault.

Some men told you that Indian law is woman friendly, meaning biased towards women, and they are absolutely right in that. They didn't say that society in general, the police, etc. are biased towards women. If she registers a case and drags her in-laws and husband to court, most of the chances are that she will get a ruling in her favour, that's where the woman friendly law bit comes in.

Then why is she not getting justice, That's my question. Why is the law not giving her her son back?

I don't know the other side of the story but isn't it unfair on the part of her in-laws to not give her son back?She said her mother-in-law told her that as u guys r facing problems in ur marriage, keep ur son with us for few months and take him back after sorting out all ur differences. When she returned to india,her in-laws called the police before she arrived home and the police told her first get an order from court then u can meet ur son.Where is the 'woman friendly law' here?

I still say she made a huge mistake by leaving her infant son who needed his parents more than his grandparents but what the law,police and her in-laws(not to forget her husband who said he doesn't need his son) doing is also wrong.

And by the way,she has been fighting this case for 8 months and 8 months is not a small duration of time.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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when its custody - its a prolonged battle. If the boy was born her and US law can have him repatriated, looks like there are too many unanswered questions causing the delay!. you just dont get the legal tangle in these custofy cases...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shanak_Fan

Then why is she not getting justice, That's my question. Why is the law not giving her her son back?

I don't know the other side of the story but isn't it unfair on the part of her in-laws to not give her son back?She said her mother-in-law told her that as u guys r facing problems in ur marriage, keep ur son with us for few months and take him back after sorting out all ur differences. When she returned to india,her in-laws called the police before she arrived home and the police told her first get an order from court then u can meet ur son.Where is the 'woman friendly law' here?

I still say she made a huge mistake by leaving her infant son who needed his parents more than his grandparents but what the law,police and her in-laws(not to forget her husband who said he doesn't need his son) doing is also wrong.

And by the way,she has been fighting this case for 8 months and 8 months is not a small duration of time.


Somehow I don't think she is telling the whole truth. If the police are asking her to get a court order before allowing her to meet her son, then the in-laws must have shown the police a previous court order granting custody of the child to the father and restricting visiting rights of the mother. Otherwise, getting an order to meet her own child is unnecessary. If it is indeed so that her in-laws are not allowing her to meet her own child without any justification, then it's same as kidnapping a child. As such she only has to hire a lawyer and approach the court. The police will be reprimanded for inaction, in-laws may be sent to prison and she will get her child back. So, why is she not approaching the court, why is she not hiring a lawyer? 8 months is more than enough time for her to have understood that she needs a lawyer. All this makes me think there is more to this case than she is letting on.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I read her news last week.
Last year,she went to india for 1 month to attend a marriage. Her in-laws requested her and her husband to leave the child with them for few months.

In April this year,she went to india to take her child with her but she was not allowed to meet him by the police who was present there.They asked her to get an order from the court.

Since last 8 months she's fighting a legal battle to take her son's custody.It seems the court allowed her to meet her son for 2 hours.Her son is not able to recognize her and is calling his grandmother mummy.She has filed a case against her in-laws of forcibly keeping her child.She also said that her husband and in-laws are involved in this and they are filing false charges against her so that they get divorced and the child can remain with them and not with his mother.

Of course this is a one sided story.There's not much news about her in the media.I only saw her petition on change.org and that's how I came to know about her.

I don't know who's right and who's wrong.I just hope to see justice. May the wrong person gets punished and right person gets justice.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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What is true about the law is, some of the laws of the land are definitely anti male. The anti dowry law and domestic violence act are not gender neutral. The problem when the law becomes this way is it is believed one gender is always the victim and the other gender is the perpetrator. The law if it passed such that only the so called weaker section only has the recourse to the law causes its own problems. Can we have law which just favors women, the law which favors poor against rich or the law which favors always dalits against upper class? The problem here is just because some section is weak that section won't have criminals. We all know how communism created chaos in Russia and the whole world just because communism is anti rich.

The way we have anti male laws, what really happens is women who need genuine justice won't get justice. But based on the inefficient and lazy judiciary innocent men could be made to suffer. The judicial system in India is not designed for providing speedy justice to anyone. But anyone who likes to harass another person through law, can do that very easily. The way the courts operate is very much complicated and the lawyers can see that no one gets proper justice. innocent men find it very painful to fight long judicial battle because of which some men stop working, others lose jobs etc. But if the same men make their mind to harass these unscrupulous women who filed false cases against them, then those men could do the needful also easily because the law in India is not designed to provide justice for the needy but only to harass the people.

Whenever a legal battle takes place, one truth is only one side is true and the other side tells lies. . But we can't make assumptions on which side tells the truth. Neither do we have great judges of human beings like Birbal who found the guilty person through his wisdom and hard work. Even in this case, one can't say who is guilty and who is innocent. In any court, one thing which we find is judges are in no hurry to provide justice to the right persons nor do they seem to give importance to find the truth in any case. And this point itself makes the judges lose their credibility. All that they do at times is provide some crumb comforts to the woman and with what they provide for the woman, the innocent woman could never get justice.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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When we talk about the law being woman friendly, this is how one can explain. One of the burning topics we have is 'The reservation for backward caste'. How is it the burning topic? Even today, we may hear from backward class persons that they still are not able to get equal opportunity to compete with the upper class persons. At the same time, the upper class is not happy with the reservation being continuously extended for the backward class people. The upper class has complaints the deserving among them are denied opportunity because of the reservations for lower class. And we find their demands are genuine also.

Looking into one more point, the Government is given responsibility for proper distribution also for which they invented socialism and communism. Naxalites also claim that they are doing justice by stripping off wealthy persons. But rich persons don't like this and they demand security for themselves. Definitely we can't force rich persons to share wealth with the poor.

Like the two above mentioned points, when we have laws which are anti male, males will definitely complain when they find they are discriminated against and their complaints also deserve to be accommodated.

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