Raman will never realise his mistake he's still blaming ishita huh

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Posted: 9 years ago
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today again Raman blamed ishita as she broke her promise,wat abt his promise he called her Baanj sauteli maa,she didn't leave him by her wish,she left as he asked her to leave... This Ishita y is she staying quiet y can't she open her mouth & say I didn't leave by my wish,u asked me to leave... Huh..

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Copy pasting my comment from other thread.

And, what about his promises? He broke all the promises he made to Ishita with dhamaka.. Whenever he makes promise, seems like he intends to break those only. So, promise thing and his expectations regarding Ishita coming from his mouth seemed only like cruel joke, nothing else.
And, his POV.. I know, many will melt down as I have seen in this forum all feeling his assumed pain by their own assumptions, but does his POV really justify the pain he is giving to Ishita??? Love is not really about hurting the loved ones just because you are hurt, love is about taking even the pains of your loves ones in yourself.. and from that angle, Raman doesn't seem to have any ounce of love for Ishita at this moment.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivianTanz_Divz

Copy pasting my comment from other thread.


And, what about his promises? He broke all the promises he made to Ishita with dhamaka.. Whenever he makes promise, seems like he intends to break those only. So, promise thing and his expectations regarding Ishita coming from his mouth seemed only like cruel joke, nothing else.
And, his POV.. I know, many will melt down as I have seen in this forum all feeling his assumed pain by their own assumptions, but does his POV really justify the pain he is giving to Ishita??? Love is not really about hurting the loved ones just because you are hurt, love is about taking even the pains of your loves ones in yourself.. and from that angle, Raman doesn't seem to have any ounce of love for Ishita at this moment.


Bang on tani,exactly my feeling tooo.. He is only worried abt his pain wat abt d pain he gave to her.. Sukh dukh mein saat dena did u give her d so called saath wen she also lost her daughter instead u accused her insulted her gave her names...


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Frankly I dont know what POV people have been waiting for? All that we have heard is Raman screaming accusations at ishita for over a month. Now it will be the same things either in his monologue or when he is talking to Ishita ( be it TV scene or today). In fact I am worried that the more they show him talking the more the presumptions and assumptions that people had about him will crumble. Keeping aside his baanj, sauteli maa etc. there were clearly two things he blamed squrely on ishita and those things still stand- one she is to blame for what happened to Ruhi and second, Ishita betrayed him and left him> For none of these he takes any responsibility or ownership.
Yes he loves her, he missed her etc. that we already know. But we are waiting for him to be a manand own up to his mistakes which frankly are mush larger than ishita's in this case atleast.

And that is really worrying, if he will really realize and change or it will be swept under the carpet as if it never happened.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I am an IshRa fan so will speak for both and not one. The thing is I don't like Ishita not telling Raman that his words were also instrumental in pushing her away, I also don't like that Raman blamed Ishita and said words he shouldn't have said.
But I am not going to blame him for being hurt about losing his people, his family. The thing is that Ishita was herself guilty that day too and she doesn't speak back and tell him she left because of him because somewhere she holds herself responsible too. She shouldn't but she does. Because that is how a parent is. Coming to Raman, he in his drunken state and even when alert has made it obvious that he has been living with the guilt of pushing her to her death, but Raman had come to believe that no matter what Ishita would stay with him, and history wouldn't repeat for him, but it did and THAT fact clouds his better judgement and although he knows better he doesn't acknowledge.

So as unhappy I am with things these two do and don't I am not going to blame them for having feelings that aren't totally black or totally white. Because grey does exist. And they both have been shown to keep promises and sacrifice and love with a passion.

A lot of times they put the leads charcaters at stake to justify their tracks, be the bhoot track or surrogacy or then this leap. So some or the other character will always come in the line of fire and we can't help it. That doesn't take away the better times they showed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-

I am an IshRa fan so will speak for both and not one. The thing is I don't like Ishita not telling Raman that his words were also instrumental in pushing her away, I also don't like that Raman blamed Ishita and said words he shouldn't have said.

But I am not going to blame him for being hurt about losing his people, his family. The thing is that Ishita was herself guilty that day too and she doesn't speak back and tell him she left because of him because somewhere she holds herself responsible too. She shouldn't but she does. Because that is how a parent is. Coming to Raman, he in his drunken state and even when alert has made it obvious that he has been living with the guilt of pushing her to her death, but Raman had come to believe that no matter what Ishita would stay with him, and history wouldn't repeat for him, but it did and THAT fact clouds his better judgement and although he knows better he doesn't acknowledge.

So as unhappy I am with things these two do and don't I am not going to blame them for having feelings that aren't totally black or totally white. Because grey does exist. And they both have been shown to keep promises and sacrifice and love with a passion.

A lot of times they put the leads charcaters at stake to justify their tracks, be the bhoot track or surrogacy or then this leap. So some or the other character will always come in the line of fire and we can't help it. That doesn't take away the better times they showed.

@bold.. Ishita clearly said her reasons of leaving him, committing suicide and not returning to him in the hpspital scene when Pihu fell sick. Still, if he doesn't remember or understand why she left.. nothing can be hoped from this insensitive person😆.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-

I am an IshRa fan so will speak for both and not one. The thing is I don't like Ishita not telling Raman that his words were also instrumental in pushing her away, I also don't like that Raman blamed Ishita and said words he shouldn't have said.

But I am not going to blame him for being hurt about losing his people, his family. The thing is that Ishita was herself guilty that day too and she doesn't speak back and tell him she left because of him because somewhere she holds herself responsible too. She shouldn't but she does. Because that is how a parent is. Coming to Raman, he in his drunken state and even when alert has made it obvious that he has been living with the guilt of pushing her to her death, but Raman had come to believe that no matter what Ishita would stay with him, and history wouldn't repeat for him, but it did and THAT fact clouds his better judgement and although he knows better he doesn't acknowledge.

So as unhappy I am with things these two do and don't I am not going to blame them for having feelings that aren't totally black or totally white. Because grey does exist. And they both have been shown to keep promises and sacrifice and love with a passion.

A lot of times they put the leads charcaters at stake to justify their tracks, be the bhoot track or surrogacy or then this leap. So some or the other character will always come in the line of fire and we can't help it. That doesn't take away the better times they showed.


Balanced view👏..one can never weigh one persons hurt against the other..period..and why get angry if one view is expressed when we can choose to empathize with the other. .
Fact is both were at fault and have different ways of expressing...and when one character had been shown only one half of the whole picture why get irritated with his pov ..both good and bad..

Sadly very few actual want to see both ishras pov in this track..if they did.. they will get what you are saying 😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Raman will never realise his mistakes.he'll never regret the harsh words he said to ishita which literally broke her.she left him 7 yrs back but why she left him did he ever try to understand that???
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: DivianTanz_Divz

@bold.. Ishita clearly said her reasons of leaving him, committing suicide and not returning to him in the hpspital scene when Pihu fell sick. Still, if he doesn't remember or understand why she left.. nothing can be hoped from this insensitive person😆.


She did and that was one of my favourite scenes. She said and he heard, but Raman is always someone who lives in denials, which is what he is doing now. Shouts so much that the saner voice in his mind that points out his mistakes can't be heard. He isn't right, I hope you don't think that's what I am saying.

On the same day she spoke about Pihu, saying that she could file for the custody if she wanted. And the man whose lost a kid already and also a family didn't look beyond that. He was in a fear of losing Pihu if you see that entire episode. That's all that there was in his mind. But whatever I say is going to look like me covering up for him or siding him which isn't the case. I don't reason Raman because I love him more and Ishita any less, but because I root for IshRa and anyone who does will like to look at both point of views. Ishita's are loud and clear, Raman's will only come over a lot of time. So people try and reason and find positive.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anku-


She did and that was one of my favourite scenes. She said and he heard, but Raman is always someone who lives in denials, which is what he is doing now. Shouts so much that the saner voice in his mind that points out his mistakes can't be heard. He isn't right, I hope you don't think that's what I am saying.

On the same day she spoke about Pihu, saying that she could file for the custody if she wanted. And the man whose lost a kid already and also a family didn't look beyond that. He was in a fear of losing Pihu if you see that entire episode. That's all that there was in his mind. But whatever I say is going to look like me covering up for him or siding him which isn't the case. I don't reason Raman because I love him more and Ishita any less, but because I root for IshRa and anyone who does will like to look at both point of views. Ishita's are loud and clear, Raman's will only come over a lot of time. So people try and reason and find positive.

So in this regard.. there is nothing of fault from Ishita's side. He decided to close all the doors.. I don't see anything dislike able here from Ishita's actions. By the time Raman will show his POV, he will be doing more blunders and all his POVs will be fruitless and insignificant at least for me😊.
That's my choice and opinion😃.

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