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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: dreamzsrk



Raman's pov has not yet come but the one episode with tv and remote showed us how broken he is. It clearly looks like he suffered/suffering more than the visible pain that we are seeing in ishita. Maybe that's the reason he is not feeling Ishita's pain and in fact I doubt if he is even in a state to see it also. We think him as deaf but maybe has has literally turned one due to his own pain.

I am not defending him at all, Just trying to understand him after the TV episode and with this, by no means I would say Ishita has to give up her self respect and be around him.

All I am hopping is for the situation where he will break down completely and his real feelings coming out. I think once that comes out, he will see what he is doing to Ishita and perhaps we might see one more guilt track




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I know what you are saying, yes his POV is not completely out and i do believe he also suffered. But his words and actions are pushing her away from him. Im sure he will realize when Ishita is in mortal danger and guilt will follow. That's drama and it sells.
But when we look at it in a sensible way he knows she is a goid soul and never look after her interest ever. Even its heartbreaking for her but for Ramans happiness she tolerated everything. If he thinks he suffered so did she. Where as he has his kids and family with him to give any peace she had none. With mani accident she had to take care of his family with added guilt and burden and im sure both with mani and aloo as annoying people she probably never grieved for Ruhi either.
Hoping for not so OTT track and hope to see Raman owining his share of mistake to put his differece behind and extend his support to Ishita.
Thats all.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Brilliant unbiased discussions. Sorry I missed it.
Thank you guys fir commenting in this thread.
Keep it coming
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: PinkRose95


U girls said it all šŸ‘
It is always about HIM n HIS kids... N now the latest addition HIS ex wife... At this point I think he doesn't even worth discussing!!! Claiming that he loves Ishita n abusing her with all possible degrading words is disgusting! Y the forum ppl always justifies him by giving the lame excuse of his past n baggage... Even Ishita has a past n she too had a painful betrayal n all those taunts from society... Inspite of that she healed him n brought him out of his shell... I agree he too loved Ishita back but that came along with a condition...be a good nanny to my kids I'll love u else ... The moment he realize that she is wrong he didn't think twice before throwing her out? The worst thing is now he is using her weakness as his weapon n killing her... He very well knows tat she cant conceive a child n Tatsy he opted for surrogacy. .but WATS the use? When tat child is calling her as aunty...
N a ex wife who was (is) an adultress claims tat pihu is her child n not even allowing her to talk to Ishita? Kyu Bhai? Cherry on the cake is she claiming herself as ruhi's asli mom who she left for her whims n fancies... N here the ex cum going to b current husband is worshipping this adultress!! Wat a shame...
Raman is nothing but a spineless man n a coward who couldn't man up n accept his mistakes ...even he failed to protect his family n if he thinks he cannot handle the things he ll start blaming Ishita n name calling her... But I'm amazed, how ppl could always come up with long lectures to prove Raman is right... Like how? I'm not saying don't support him but v can see the other side aswell... If v point this then v become Raman's haters...It's not about feminism or women's rights.. It's all about the basic right that a normal human being should b given...tat is RESPECT... But here tat very basic thing is lacking... Even now if dey give pages of monologues n a week's epi dedicated to Raman he cannot justify all those cruel words he said to his wife... Not even a wife or women but none deserves tat... Until n unless he doesn't understand wat his words r doing to her, he cannot b redeemed... Apologies without realization is utter waste. PERIOD


@Rose, sorry dont know your name. But you have exactly put down my feeling with regards to Raman. the first thing itself that people fail to understand that Raman's anger and blame game have pushed Ishita to suicide. That is not what true love is! And whenever something goes wrong he lashes at Ishita and blames her, that is not love either. When Ruhi was kidnapped, he was his usual self, but in lieu of dafa ho jao and get out, he asked her to go away lest he kill her himself. Is that how you support a mom who lost her daughter too? And why is it always about him? Why is he so selfish? His kids, his kids' asli maa and himself have priority over Ishita's feelings, surrogacy proved that.

And dont even hope that he will own up to his mistakes and make it up to Ishita. The poor soul will just forgive him with one sorry. Even now she is the one saying sorry. So those expecting a track on Raman's guilt it simply wont happen, it will all be swept under the rug till another kaand happens and he is back to blaming Ishita.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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And how many times he has wished she should die? If she does not grovel at your feet and take in all abuses, she has to die? Well she is lucky to be living, but is she living? Has Raman even bothered to find out?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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It is always about HIM n HIS kids... N now the latest addition HIS ex wife... At this point I think he doesn't even worth discussing!!! Claiming that he loves Ishita n abusing her with all possible degrading words is disgusting! Y the forum ppl always justifies him by giving the lame excuse of his past n baggage... Even Ishita has a past n she too had a painful betrayal n all those taunts from society... Inspite of that she healed him n brought him out of his shell... I agree he too loved Ishita back but that came along with a condition...be a good nanny to my kids I'll love u else ... The moment he realize that she is wrong he didn't think twice before throwing her out? The worst thing is now he is using her weakness as his weapon n killing her... He very well knows tat she cant conceive a child n Tatsy he opted for surrogacy. .but WATS the use? When tat child is calling her as aunty...
N a ex wife who was (is) an adultress claims tat pihu is her child n not even allowing her to talk to Ishita? Kyu Bhai? Cherry on the cake is she claiming herself as ruhi's asli mom who she left for her whims n fancies... N here the ex cum going to b current husband is worshipping this adultress!! Wat a shame...
Raman is nothing but a spineless man n a coward who couldn't man up n accept his mistakes ...even he failed to protect his family n if he thinks he cannot handle the things he ll start blaming Ishita n name calling her... But I'm amazed, how ppl could always come up with long lectures to prove Raman is right... Like how? I'm not saying don't support him but v can see the other side aswell... If v point this then v become Raman's haters...It's not about feminism or women's rights.. It's all about the basic right that a normal human being should b given...tat is RESPECT... But here tat very basic thing is lacking... Even now if dey give pages of monologues n a week's epi dedicated to Raman he cannot justify all those cruel words he said to his wife... Not even a wife or women but none deserves tat... Until n unless he doesn't understand wat his words r doing to her, he cannot b redeemed... Apologies without realization is utter waste. PERIOD

@Rose, sorry dont know your name. But you have exactly put down my feeling with regards to Raman. the first thing itself that people fail to understand that Raman's anger and blame game have pushed Ishita to suicide. That is not what true love is! And whenever something goes wrong he lashes at Ishita and blames her, that is not love either. When Ruhi was kidnapped, he was his usual self, but in lieu of dafa ho jao and get out, he asked her to go away lest he kill her himself. Is that how you support a mom who lost her daughter too? And why is it always about him? Why is he so selfish? His kids, his kids' asli maa and himself have priority over Ishita's feelings, surrogacy proved that.

And dont even hope that he will own up to his mistakes and make it up to Ishita. The poor soul will just forgive him with one sorry. Even now she is the one saying sorry. So those expecting a track on Raman's guilt it simply wont happen, it will all be swept under the rug till another kaand happens and he is back to blaming Ishita.


Heyyy sunita šŸ¤— u can call me ammu 😳
If he can blame Ishita n shout at her to the extent where our ears starts bleeding then y why can't he shut his ex's mouth??? Okk ppl come with a excuse she is no one to him so he doesn't give a damn... Heck if she is a random idiot then u'll allow her to insult your wife?? N the next excuse is Ishita asked him to respect her n asked her not to have any kind of feelings for her...i agree.. but nowhere she said tat u can insult me before ur ex n in front of family members...
But now he seems to worship Shagun coz she gave her 7 years to him n his family... How dumb he could get.. She is his ex wife.. Doesn't he know she won't do anything for others if it doesn't benefits her. .or should I say he neglected tat fact coz he wanted a nanny so didn't care much about her relationship with manoj (he has become Mr.India) ... I was thinking he was just a temporary arrangement as Shaun can't fend for herself... So jab Ishita ki exit hui she came under the pretext of helping bhallas.. It would have been easy if dey told pihu that ishu had died in an accident n Shagun after marrying manoj could have paied visit to bhalla house as a motherly figure... But here the main reason for surrogacy was lost.. SW wanted to repay Ishita for all her ehsaan but she ended up snatching everything from Ishita... N here the asli baap supporting his ex wife in this... Okk just now he came to know about ishu being alive n is staying with Mani so he misunderstood it. ..but Wat about 7 years back? If he was really in guilt he would have told pihu abut Ishita(koi bhi reason dhe detha) being her real mom.. Tat dead soul deserved tat much... Both were equally responsible for whatever happened with ruhi, if he thinks ishu doesn't deserve to b called as a mother then don't he feel any shame wen pihu calls him as Dad??
Atleast Raman had his family (he himself distanced from them coz of his rude behavior) n his daughter n not to forget an ex-wife to entertain him but der Ishita had none to call her as own... Her friend n his nephew was her oly solace but she doesn't want them. .she just wanted her husband to console her n for a change she expected him to be her strength...but alas he failed her... Failed her miserably
Edited by PinkRose95 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Mdwst

I'm. proud of my heart.
It's been played, Stabbed,cheated, burnt and broken
But somehow it still works

Unknown

All it takes is
A beautiful
Fake smile to hide an
Injured soul
And they will never notice
How broken you really are

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That's Ishita for me




Viji netthi adi bang on. Just loved each one of ur word.. Being a women it hurts so much to see ishita's state n more than that ppl defending raman's actions n their detailed justification report abt his crude actions & words.. Wat abt ishita,she is being taken for granted totally... He keeps on taunting her calling her opportunist wah.. No realisation that he was d reason n no ounce of guilt abt d words he spewed on her ,he questioned her identity...

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