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Posted: 9 years ago
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Having seen so many Ishita-Ruhi vs Shagun-Pihu posts, my thoughts also started swirling...
If we focus on what the upcoming track could be, lots of people seem to think that Ruhi-Ishita and Pihu-Shagun situation is the same, however, there are a few very obvious differences that are either so obvious that we aren't paying attention to them, or the are just being simply ignored.

When Ishita met Ruhi, Ruhi knew that Ishita wasn't her real mum and that her biological mum was somewhere out there. Ruhi wanted to meet her mother but Shagun was not interested in Ruhi at all. She remembered that Ruhi was her daughter when there was another chance of hurting Raman, when AshGun saw it as an opportunity to torture Raman. Even after gaining Ruhi (for the short period of time before Ishra's Marriage) she was all prepared to put little Ruh into boarding school, like her Adi Bhaiya.

Pihu, on the other hand, believes that Shagun is her biological mum, married to her dad, like any normal family is. She has no idea, even in her wildest thoughts that the "Haar Wali Aunty", whose name she doesnt know as yet, is her relative, and that too such a close one... her Mother. And we all will agree that, given the chance that Pihu comes with Ishu, there is no chance that Ishu wont treat her like a chunk of her heart. In my opinion, Pihu and Ruhi do not travel in the same boat, so deciding which mother does/doesn't deserve which daughter would be unfair...

OK, I agree Ishita leaving Pihu was a wrong step.. the only wrong Ishu did in this whole fiasco, tbh, but Ishu leaving Pihu and Shagun leaving Ruhi were two extremely different scenarios! One left her daughter due to heartbreak of losing another daughter, while one left her daughter as she was blinded by the love of another man.

As far as Shagun is concerned, she doesnt need to be married to Raman to be Pihu's mother. Even she is well aware of the fact that Ishita is not like her, and if she were to return to the house, She would never ever try to seperate Pihu and Shagun... unlike Shagun, keeping in mind the uncountable and unforgivable things Shagun has done to seperate IshRu, ranging from fraud to emotionally blackmailing Adi to kidnapping!

And I personally think, somewhere or the other that Shagun actually does deserve it too... Now I might face a lot of hate with people disagreeing with me here, but hey, you dont have to agree with me..!

Retracing the steps of YHM, Shagun was shown to be horribly evil, use her son against firstly Raman and then Ishita (when she wanted to return into Raman's life), to losing her son's trust, moving to Mumbai, away from everything... No doubt, she turned a new leaf, and changed, but she was never actually shown making it up to all those she wronged, for making their lives a living her... She was shown feeling guilty and apologising, and then that was it... Shagun's cleared...!

She realised her mistakes, but not her faults... which is why she's now retracing her old habits, using Pihu to "keep Raman and Ishita apart" (her own words) and not to keep her daughter with her...

Well, anyway, this was all just my point... And just to add, that I've been a silent participant of this forum for quite a while and must say, it is a very light-hearted and humourous place! So many posts her make me laugh out and its a pleasure to be a spectator! SO Good Job people!! ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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good on u. those who r thinking that ishita and shagun are same they should read this article. how can't they see the differences between these two women?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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shagun really an upshagun for the whole drama and ishita nad raman's life
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The title itself given my view
Shagun is big ?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Pihu loves shagun coz she is her mother according to her or others.
But ruhi loved ISHITA even when she was just ISHITA aunty for her and I m sure if RAMAN had not married ISHITA then also ruhi would continue to love her remember how she beg for ISHITA aunty to her prospective broom to not take her ISHITA aunty away from her as she will be alone without her.although ruhi had full family who loved her but ruhi felt a pure/unconditional/indescribable love for a stranger.
She trusted on her aunty when judge asked for with whom u wanna live.
ohk to be fare if ruhi had her mother then she might not attached to ISHITA in that way &may be if ISHITA not physically unable to become a mother she might not crave to be with ruhi though she would have loved her but being with her as mother won't come into her mind.
But ruhi inspite of living with her mom crave for her aunty & ISHITA after being engaged inspite of her inability & accepted by Prateek as she is ,she chooses ruhi .
So both the above possibility in ishru lives (ruhi having a mother & ISHITA having secured life and can be a mother might be after adoption as suggested by Prateek) not able to stop them from coming & falling in love with each other.the love is by just by heart not by any relationship & social norm.
ISHITA even ready to give ruhi to her real mom to give her a lot of happiness .so she not choosen or thought it's necessary to become ruhi's mother to give her love whereas shagun truly loves pihu coz she is her daughter according to ms shagun & she just want to fulfill her dream of being good mother as she never was in past she want to experience the phase of life just for herself .she didn't care of pihu happiness in reality she just want to be in good book of pihu and continue to fulfill pihu's all wish although they might be stupid & not good for upbringing.pihu loves shagun as all daughter loves her mother so it's not anything special in the bond it's just simply mother-daughter love which is normal.but presence of RD as pihu what makes it truly artificial.
Ps-I don't know I make any sense or not as I drifted from the topic I think.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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You are right. It is definitely 2 different scenarios.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shagun's intentions can be clearly seen. But I don't understand how raman suddenly started chattering this so called "pihu ke liye " drama, where the approval of his was for some other reason. And even yesterday pihu was stating it's the second marriage of her mom and papa. Cv's loosing their plot is the thing that disgusts me the most more than their story line.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: megha2227

Shagun's intentions can be clearly seen. But I don't understand how raman suddenly started chattering this so called "pihu ke liye " drama, where the approval of his was for some other reason. And even yesterday pihu was stating it's the second marriage of her mom and papa. Cv's loosing their plot is the thing that disgusts me the most more than their story line.


Of course the "Pihu k liye" is all crap! His heart doesn't agree wid his decision and he's looking for an excuse to make it all seem right!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The difference between Shagun and Ishita as mothers is too obvious.

It is selfishness vs selflessness.

During Ruhi's custody case (prior to Ishra's marriage) Ishita makes a request to the judge to decide in favour of the child's well-being and happiness.

Here again when Ishita realises that Pihu (not knowing Shagun's manipulation) dreads to go away from her parents(Shagun and Raman) she assures the child that she will not separate her from them. Ishita is capable of thinking from the child's point of view, its happiness, its security. She gives up the thoughts of claiming her 'own' child though she had reminded Raman of her rights.

Ishita's love is unconditional; it's sacrificial. Shagun, as a forum member stated, is all "I, me, myself".

If all these years Pihu took Shagun as her real mother and she has seen their wedding album (Raman's first marriage) why then conduct the ceremony again? For the children to witness and participate in their parents' wedding? If so, how many times parents will have to tie the knot?

It's known to everyone that Raman is not interested in marrying Shagun or any other woman. He is impulsive and irascible. Seeing Ishita at the Iyers' he loses all his restraint and out of spite, ire, pain and jealousy he tries to sting Ishita by saying he is marrying Shagun.

It is as clear as day to Shagun why Raman proposed to her then. But for long she had only been eyeing for a move from Raman's part. The materialist and opportunist Shagun spared no time in grabbing it. She is ready to compromise a loveless marriage for the social success of Raman.

And everything is on the pretext of doing a noble sacrifice "sirf Pihu ke liye".

How come this claim "sirf Pihu ke liye" cropped up all of a sudden? It sounds too ridiculous. Both Raman and Shagun are chanting this. Shagun does this to cover up her real motives.

What about Raman? He never uttered "sirf Pihu ke liye" these seven long years. Is he feeling awkward of backing off from the promise of marriage, the public proclamation he made? Whom is he fooling? Himself.

After the night with Ishita he must be sure she still loves him or else she will not challenge or allure him if she is going to marry Mani. Then why can't he be man enough to admit his love? So he is also making a noble sacrifice "sirf Pihu ke liye"?

I don't know whether Ishra's marriage is null and void now (no death certificate produced earlier or divorce case filed now).

Here too we find Ishita gives up her happiness. She doesn't fight for her marital status but complies with Raman's wish.

Sorry, I've digressed from the topic Shagun vs Ishita.

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