TEI EP 190/191: The Phoenix & The Lioness; Analysis - Page 2

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Posted: 9 years ago
#11
First hope everything turns out fine for you.
Great to have you back.
A lovely analysis Areeba.
Love the way you always connect the dots for us .
I loved the Taneja women and Bebe rocked too.
The last Twinj hug with Tashan e ishq song did feel like a declaration of waging a full on war against Yuvraj . It was amazing.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeingAnonymous

A lot of places it does happen even in real , there is no hard fast differences and if they are hardened Sikh they will not go to temple , otherwise i have my own friends who celebrate all hindu festivals including Navratris and Karwachauth which actually isnt Sikh customs if u go by books were framed at time by Nanak i to bring harmony and he never intended to bring in new religion it evolved over time so lot of ppl still follow customs which are similar in both religion it is hardened sikhs the Khalistanis who think and dont like mixture


Sorry to butt in but I'm a Sikh and I have a problem with what you've said LOL. No offense but it's kinda ignorant.


I'm not a 'hardened' Sikh tbh I don't even know what you mean by that. I am a plain old baptized Sikh and one of the basic fundamentals of my religion is that we don't do 'murti pooja', so yeah we don't go to temple - that doesn't make those of us 'hardened Sikhs'. We're literally just one of the basic principles of our religion.

LOL you are so wrong about Guru Nanak Dev Ji (please use his full name) not bringing in a new religion, his whole motive was to bring in a new way of life - which is what our religion is - simply a way to lead a life. It started with Guru Nanak Dev Ji, right through to Guru Gobind Singh Ji who initiated the baptism ceremony. And Sikhism is NOT a branch of Hinduism or any other religion. I don't mean any offense, but we don't believe in moorti pooja, we won't believe in multiple gods etc., we don't believe in doing rituals and rites eg teerath yaatra, pilgrimages like in other religions. My point is Sikhism is an exclusive religion, please don't reduce it to a mere branch of another. Our tenets - on the most basic level - are very, very different.

I've lived in India, I have Sikh family in India and it's different there I understand. Tbh it's a mess, and the 'jard' of the mess is what's been happening and is still happening in Punjab. Not to mention the PM is now a hindu-nationalist which ain't gonna do us any favors, govt. still continues to brush '84 attacks under the carpet. So don't go on using 'Khalistanis' as a negative connotation. We've been wronged, we continue to be wronged in a country where we were falsely promised a lot. So no wonder there are people in my community who are angry at that - people wanna call them'Khalistanis' go ahead, cause yes we do want our own homeland where we can feel a sense of belonging, and the Lord above knows we deserve it after all we've been through and continue to put up with.

Sorry Areeba for going off on your post, and @BeingAnonymous I hope I don't come across as offensive, but when it's my religion being talked about I feel the need to clarify the basic things it stands for.

No hard feelings :)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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brilliant analysis areeba i hope ur prob gets solved and u can come here often
Loved ur analogy on the war player sbeing changed.
it indeed all comes back to luthras vs taneja but this time sarnas are in it and they have chosen their side.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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thanks Areeba..was waiting for your analysis but do understand personal life is more important ..thanks a lot for updating once again ..xx
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Posted: 9 years ago
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thank you all for such an amazing response!


@kingmessi @beinganonymous; a couple of days ago and even before I mentioned the religious appropriation that the writers seem to ignore in TEI. Some of my friends who are Sikhs felt really hurt because of the general ignorance of people towards Sikhism and adjoining it with Hinduism. I myself find it very disrespectful because the show started out depicting that these families are all Sikhs and then they included a lot of Hindu customs in the Sarna household.

It spreads the wrong message about religion and overlooks the importance of particular religion.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: kingmessi


Sorry to butt in but I'm a Sikh and I have a problem with what you've said LOL. No offense but it's kinda ignorant.


I'm not a 'hardened' Sikh tbh I don't even know what you mean by that. I am a plain old baptized Sikh and one of the basic fundamentals of my religion is that we don't do 'murti pooja', so yeah we don't go to temple - that doesn't make those of us 'hardened Sikhs'. We're literally just one of the basic principles of our religion.

LOL you are so wrong about Guru Nanak Dev Ji (please use his full name) not bringing in a new religion, his whole motive was to bring in a new way of life - which is what our religion is - simply a way to lead a life. It started with Guru Nanak Dev Ji, right through to Guru Gobind Singh Ji who initiated the baptism ceremony. And Sikhism is NOT a branch of Hinduism or any other religion. I don't mean any offense, but we don't believe in moorti pooja, we won't believe in multiple gods etc., we don't believe in doing rituals and rites eg teerath yaatra, pilgrimages like in other religions. My point is Sikhism is an exclusive religion, please don't reduce it to a mere branch of another. Our tenets - on the most basic level - are very, very different.

I've lived in India, I have Sikh family in India and it's different there I understand. Tbh it's a mess, and the 'jard' of the mess is what's been happening and is still happening in Punjab. Not to mention the PM is now a hindu-nationalist which ain't gonna do us any favors, govt. still continues to brush '84 attacks under the carpet. So don't go on using 'Khalistanis' as a negative connotation. We've been wronged, we continue to be wronged in a country where we were falsely promised a lot. So no wonder there are people in my community who are angry at that - people wanna call them'Khalistanis' go ahead, cause yes we do want our own homeland where we can feel a sense of belonging, and the Lord above knows we deserve it after all we've been through and continue to put up with.

Sorry Areeba for going off on your post, and @BeingAnonymous I hope I don't come across as offensive, but when it's my religion being talked about I feel the need to clarify the basic things it stands for.

No hard feelings :)

Hmm see I will tell u what i know my friend is a sikh and watever i have seen of her she never had problem going to temple infact she won a lot of competitions at Isckon and moreover the place i was brought up was quite a mix of all religion where ppl would go to gurudwara on sunday and a temple build in campus where everyone would assemble on weekend (aunties ) for any bhajaans at same time we would have fun on eid so i really dont know how ppl fight with religion and say my religion dont say this we wont do this stuff bec i have grown up seeing ppl mixing going to temple having fun and this reminds me what my fav teacher said ppl had made religion a tool to fight what is right wat is wrong it should be actually good to know all religion and realise essence which everyone misses and tat is what i meant with ppl do intermingle in India at many places , they might not say out loud but even smallest villages to metros interminglig happens and about Khalistan it is whole political issue and nothing to do with Sikhs at all , infact if we go about by this India has lot of internal state fighting for different country from Punjab to nagaland and about PM i am his no big fan esp after Gujarat riots but a lot depend on people , if people keep continuing fighting in name of religion this is never gonna end but having said that all i do stick with what i said i have seen ppl of all faith intermingle atleast where i was brought up or placesd where i have visited and moreover thanks to my parents they had so many different friends tat i have understood one thing the world fights for nothing and ppl actually love intermingling , U said u have stayed in India , and u have family back home , but i stay in India and i know nitty gritty of wat happens hence pointed out a lot of ppl are cool with all religion , and are happy to know cannot deny several cruelties which happen and keeps repeating here and there and that is again political mileage , and 1984 was completely wrong and hopefully ppl get justice , but such stuff takes time they are sensitive and if not wrong this govt actually tried fastening that stuff bec it will give them political mileage .
And honestly blame the upbringing or just my rebeliious self i just dont understand wat is wrong if ppl visit different religious places ? No harm and tat way i kinda like tv , films they mix stuff and show how okay it is to visit different places 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#17
Ugh how I hate our time differences.

Loved reading this because I'm totally feeling the war vibes right now. Both episodes has their shining points and I couldn't agree more that the Taneja women stole the past two episodes.

Seriously Leela plays with emotions I didnt know I had. From her breakdown in front of Anita to her rising again in todays episode was phenomenal. A mother will only endure up until her children are harmed and she really reached her endurance limit today.

My heart goes out to poor Twinkle dude. The things she had to experience were beyond disgusting. But she is her mother's daughter and she rose despite the obstacles thrown her way to break her. Gosh, I really do love these women. Her breakdown in front of the mirror was heart wrenching and so well played, Jas has really upped her game. I'm glad in a way that Kunj didnt walk into the room and comfort her during that scene (not that I wouldve minded) bit it goes to show that she's still an independent fighter at the end of the day. As much as Kunj will support her, she will be able to handle and overcome such difficulties on her own.

I know you've always called Bebe out as a spectator and as much as I understood your point in the past episodes, I think it truly made sense to me in today's episode. Her positioning in every scene was so apt and I loved that she waited till the right moment to interfere, i.e. when Anita went cray cray about the slap. She is such a babe, in every sense!

Kunj, my darling Kunj. #HubbyGoals was the only thing I could think of for the last couple of episodes. Seriously someone find me such a man I loved his protective stance the last few scenes, like you said, he's a lion and he will protect his lioness at all costs. So him allowing those women to inflict pain on him as he shielded his beloved was so heart warming and I feel like crying all over again. And THAT HUG. Actions speak louder than words right? And damn, did his actions speak or what? The protectiveness, the challenge, the strength. I'm just going to die for a while.

Luthra's reached his peak psycho limit. I have nothing to add.

Still waiting for Usha to grow on me, I still cant take her positivism seriously.


Lovely post dude. I love that you incorporated yesterday's episode in this thread too. Always amazing to read 😎 Go easy on yourself though love, we can wait for updates. Dont tire yourself out because of our demands. Take care! ❤️
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Posted: 9 years ago
#18
Areeba as usual your analysis was fabulous and I literally have nothing to add to it but praise for your skills.
(pssst.. have you considered writing for the show?)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Oh my Areeba you surely know how to ignite the fighting spirit in us with your analysis while reading I was picturing scenes from 300. As I say I no longer look at TEI the same, can I say that yesterday's episode will go down as one of the best in TEI history, those slaps👏, and Kunj's expression on Twinkle's declaration of "Twinkle Kunj Sarna" and the hug that followed made my heart swoon. You're right his silence said a lot, and Twinkle's slap to Yuvraj to me signified her stance in this battlefield, as of now no longer will she allow her guilt consume her and remain a victim she has had enough and is ready to fight come what may to seek justice. Superbly done analysis as per the usual.

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