Sumo was Not a bully and I like Sumo and Shravan

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Starting this thread to start a discussion... no offence will be taken for any disagreements. Lets have fun 😆

For the record, I do not hate Shravan but did not like the extent to which he went to humiliate Sumo in public.

Many people refer to Sumo as a bully. So, I searched for the definition of a bully. Bullying is a very strong word and she was definitely not that...

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict.[1] Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbalharassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets"


If she were indeed a bully then we would not be having a love story today!


Sumo, was loud, immature and wanted to maintain a social image. She was brash and seemed to be stating the differences between Shravan and her all the time. But she was pretty open about it too, you could never say she lied to him.

I am darned sure that Shravan did not leave her for being Loud, repeatedly stating their differences or for not going out with him in public. He knew how to handle her even then... right from the cube incident to doing her homework. He was extremely smart and could have easily evaded her. He wanted to do things for her and he did it... definitely not because of her forcing him. Shravan at that time was more mature and had great clarity of thought for his age. Even when he wrote the love letter he was prepared for rejection and wanted to continue as a friend.

What I believe would have happened and we are yet to see in this show is that at some point Sumo would have failed to stand by Shravan when he was in need of his FRIEND. That soured all his good memories, same as what happened with Sumo after the party.

THIS to me is a cardinal sin and not easily forgiven. Sometimes we act without thinking about consequences. Sumo was and is impulsive and would have been silent where she should have spoken or spoken something to maintain her image, without thinking about the consequences. When she did realize her mistake Shravan was not prepared to accept her apology. This I believe is the past story. If Shravan had actually stayed back and ignored Sumo for some time, I am very sure she would have gone past her image and made it up to him. Things have now turned complex with time and unsaid words.

The future story would be how Sumo handles the exact same situation and fights her way through it. She is going to earn Shravan's and her family's respect and viceversa. With respect love would follow.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Who said Sumo bullied shravan😲?
Sumo made mistake in past and shravan today make mistake

Human are bound to do mistake...right...and some learn from it and some may not thier personal choice but the thing is that if they will not do mistake...then we are not humans right..

So since both suman and shravan are realistic characters...they are bound to do mistake at every level of thier lives ...with different methods..obviously...

But here apart from mistake external force has also played a vital role ...in the story which will be revealed latter in the show..hopefully,,

For Me neither suman nor shravan deserve this pain and heartbroke and suffering.

Both are suffeing and struggling...the diffrence is just that .shravan has a father besides him to guide and sumo had nobody to guide her...but ...that doesnet mean either Shravan is wrong nor Sumo..\

the only thing the bad effect shravan has ...due to that..lets see how ..the story unfolds...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Radz sumo is really full of life she really did some mistakes in her young age and did some damage to shravan and she really need to make it up to him. Despite of all her mistakes she really deserve a good life too.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: mannu100

Who said Sumo bullied shravan😲?

Sumo made mistake in past and shravan today make mistake

Human are bound to do mistake...right...and some learn from it and some may not thier personal choice but the thing is that if they will not do mistake...then we are not humans right..

So since both suman and shravan are realistic characters...they are bound to do mistake at every level of thier lives ...with different methods..obviously...

But here apart from mistake external force has also played a vital role ...in the story which will be revealed latter in the show..hopefully,,

For Me neither suman nor shravan deserve this pain and heartbroke and suffering.

Both are suffeing and struggling...the diffrence is just that .shravan has a father besides him to guide and sumo had nobody to guide her...but ...that doesnet mean either Shravan is wrong nor Sumo..\

the only thing the bad effect shravan has ...due to that..lets see how ..the story unfolds...


Well, they need to suffer as we need the show to run and a story to tell 😆😆

I have seen some people refer to Sumo as a bully.

I think, the real reason for Shraman's fall out has not out yet... viz she not supporting him. Cause if he asked THAT particular question at the party then it would be obvious that they were friends.
Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I see your point.
And nobody is painting Suman as some active bully, but there is nothing wrong in debating on whether her past behavior bordered on the lines of verbal abuse. Again, nobody is piling all these things up and labeling Suman, but in a forum it's okay if people want to take part in such intellectual discussion.

Regardless of Suman not having any bad intentions and active malice, let's call a spade a spade for once and not constantly excuse her actions. She was wrong! By constantly putting class differences between her and Shravan, she has slowly chipped away at his self esteem; and sure, this was NOT intentional on her part, but why not put that particular blame where it's supposed to lie? Why are we trivializing Shravan's feelings? If this was Shravan in the place of Suman, constantly telling Suman that I have my image to take care of so don't talk to me at school, but is all the more happy to get notes from her after school, gets his homework also done by her, and then takes another girl to prom rejecting her, explaining again, I can't go with you because of my image. And then when Suman in this reversal finally breaks free after a last incident and she comes back after 10 years, with Shravan giving a written note saying sorry, would she accept that note? Would all the people berating Shravan right now encourage her to accept that sorry?

And what names would Shravan be called if he was in Suman's place? I think "bully" would be the first word that would come to front of anyone's mind. You don't have to threaten to bully, you can slyly make such comments that border on verbal abuse. And saying all this again, does not mean I hate Suman. I infact accept suman with all her flaws. She is not some perfect girl to me. She has her flaws, just like Shravan. And I'm willing to accept that and talk about it and definitely not accusing the Suman of the present or of the past, regardless of my assessment. Because at the end of the day, I'm invested in Shraman, as a pair and this show as a love story. Sorry If I'm offending anyone, but this is just my take.
Edited by coolpixie - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpixie

I see your point.

And nobody is painting Suman as some active bully, but there is nothing wrong in debating on whether her past behavior bordered on the lines of verbal abuse. Again, nobody is piling all these things up and labeling Suman, but in a forum it's okay if people want to take part in such intellectual discussion.

Regardless of Suman not having any bad intentions and active malice, let's call a spade a spade for once and not constantly excuse her actions. She was wrong! By constantly putting class differences between her and Shravan, she has slowly chipped away at his self esteem; and sure, this was NOT intentional on her part, but why not put that particular blame where it's supposed to lie? Why are we trivializing Shravan's feelings? If this was Shravan in the place of Suman, constantly telling Suman that I have my image to take care of so don't talk to me at school, but is all the more happy to get notes from her after school, gets his homework also done by her, and then takes another girl to prom rejecting her, explaining again, I can't go with you because of my image. And then when Suman in this reversal finally breaks free after a last incident and she comes back after 10 years, with Shravan giving a written note saying sorry, would she accept that note? Would all the people berating Shravan right now encourage her to accept that sorry?

And what names would Shravan be called if he was in Suman's place? I think "bully" would be the first that would come to front of anyone's mind. You don't have to threaten to bully, you can slyly make such comments that border on verbal abuse. And saying all this again, does not mean I hate Suman. I infact accept suman with all her flaws. She is not some perfect girl to me. She has her flaws, just like Shravan. And I'm willing to accept that and talk about it and definitely not accusing the Suman of the present or of the past, regardless of my assessment. Because at the end of the day, I'm invested in Shravan, as a pair and this show as a love story. Sorry If I'm offending anyone, but this is just my take.


Enjoyed reading your post. I still do not see Sumo, threatening, intimidating Shravan to do her homework. He does say in a couple occasions that he would not do it and she does plead with him.

Sumo was the way she was because that was her nature, in some ways still is! She did not know that her behavior was negatively affecting Shravan, he did not tell her or leave her.

Sumo's behavior traumatized Shravan.. So what made him fall in love with her? Why was he even friends with her? Did he see something beyond the brash and loud Sumo? Was there something worthwhile for Shravan to stick with her and put up with her loudness or brashness? The show needs to answer these questions before terming Sumo as a bully or otherwise.

In life, each person makes their own destiny, we are the product of the decisions we make. In that sense, I feel, Shravan not expressing his feelings, and expecting Sumo to change is the crux of the problem. When you know that you have a bad apple you choose not to eat it... If you end up eating and then complaining... that clearly is your mistake. Cause you made that choice.

Sadly, we think that Shravan was not mature enough to leave Sumo.. but Sumo should be mature enough to be nice to Shravan and understand what she was doing to him. I think both were immature and have equal responsibility for their fallout.

End of the day both are equally at fault, one talked too much and the other hardly talked about his feelings!
Edited by poppinss - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Radha...Bang on
I'm not against Shravan but whatever he did with Sumo in public & that too by acting sweet with her...is not at all acceptable & Justified... I respect all POV's...Me, saying that i don't support Shravan that doesn't mean i hate him or i'm biased...

Shravan was matured when sumo was immature... When he clearly knows about her y didn't he leave her long back...He left because of a major reason which has to be revealed.. without knowing that i can't comment..

Sumo was loud , immature & dominating personality but didn't she miss him all the years? If not Y she securely saved his memories...This is just a misunderstanding which has to be cleared from both sides...i don't support Shravan in this present scenario
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I see your point. I disagree & agree with you on some points.

I do see Sumo as a bully. There was clear verbal abuse on her part in the way she passed those snide comments, & constantly humiliated Shravan not just in person, but in public also. Yes, she did it unintentionally & in innocence & Shravan, too never, stopped her or called her out for it. But that doesn't take away from her actions, which were wrong & did clear psychological damage to Shravan.

But having said that, Suman does deserve forgiveness, especially the day when she realises her mistakes & that what Shravan did to her at the prom, or his act of leaving wasn't just his 'bachpana'. Its really not fair on her part to reduce Shravan's actions to that, especially since childhood/teenage scars run deep, & affect us/change us in many ways we cannot sometimes fanthom.

Shravan, too, needs to be able to look beyond his hurt, & view Suman in a new light, when she truly understands the gravity of what she did in the past. Currently, he is viewing her from the eyes of teenage Shravan which is justified, but he needs to understand & realise that Suman has changed. She has matured & is no longer the narcissist she once was.

I hope that one day, both of them are able to look beyond their egos, & self-obsession to see the way they've hurt each other, & heal each other in the process. They should love each other despite the way they are, & for the way they are.
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For me the only.argument is if a guy responds to an some incident that happened in school days in his definition of a similiar manner revenge ,it is extremely childish and deserves to be ignored and move on
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: poppinss


Starting this thread to start a discussion... no offence will be taken for any disagreements. Lets have fun 😆

For the record, I do not hate Shravan but did not like the extent to which he went to humiliate Sumo in public.

Many people refer to Sumo as a bully. So, I searched for the definition of a bully. Bullying is a very strong word and she was definitely not that...

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power, which distinguishes bullying from conflict.[1] Behaviors used to assert such domination can include verbalharassment or threat, physical assault or coercion, and such acts may be directed repeatedly towards particular targets"


If she were indeed a bully then we would not be having a love story today!


Sumo, was loud, immature and wanted to maintain a social image. She was brash and seemed to be stating the differences between Shravan and her all the time. But she was pretty open about it too, you could never say she lied to him.

I am darned sure that Shravan did not leave her for being Loud, repeatedly stating their differences or for not going out with him in public. He knew how to handle her even then... right from the cube incident to doing her homework. He was extremely smart and could have easily evaded her. He wanted to do things for her and he did it... definitely not because of her forcing him. Shravan at that time was more mature and had great clarity of thought for his age. Even when he wrote the love letter he was prepared for rejection and wanted to continue as a friend.

What I believe would have happened and we are yet to see in this show is that at some point Sumo would have failed to stand by Shravan when he was in need of his FRIEND. That soured all his good memories, same as what happened with Sumo after the party.

THIS to me is a cardinal sin and not easily forgiven. Sometimes we act without thinking about consequences. Sumo was and is impulsive and would have been silent where she should have spoken or spoken something to maintain her image, without thinking about the consequences. When she did realize her mistake Shravan was not prepared to accept her apology. This I believe is the past story. If Shravan had actually stayed back and ignored Sumo for some time, I am very sure she would have gone past her image and made it up to him. Things have now turned complex with time and unsaid words.

The future story would be how Sumo handles the exact same situation and fights her way through it. She is going to earn Shravan's and her family's respect and viceversa. With respect love would follow.




i don't agree with u... teenage ke kuch incident logo ki zindgi aur uska nazriya bigad bhi sakte hai aur sawar bhi sakte hai...muje lagta hai ki shravan ki andar ki bitterness uske childhood me jo bhi suman ne kiya uska hi natiza hai i hope ke suman ko apni galti samaj me aaye..abhi bhi suman ne kabhi bhi uski galti samaj me nahi aayi agar aayi hoti vo acche se effort lagati bas do baar sorry kahene se kya ho sakta hai...aur jab usne bolo ke "itni bhi badi batt nahi thi" uska yahi sentence shravu ko provoke kara...jab suman apni galti man legi tab hi sumo aur shravu ke bich sab kuch thik hoga...bachpana bol ke aap apni galti se bhag nahi sakte..aur vo itni bhi chotti nahi thi ke usko pata hi na chale ke vo shravu ka insult kar rahi hai har ek baar...shravu ne jo bhi kara party me vo iss liye kiya ke suman ko bhi pata chale ke jab koi apke sath aesa behavior kare to kesa feel hota hai...mere hisab se shravan galat nahi hai...suman ne always shravan ko ignor kiya hai aur uski insult ki hai so vo ab suddenlly aesa sochne lagi ki vo sab kuch bhul gaya hoga to vo wrong hai..shravan ne suman ke behvior ko bhi sehan kar liya tha par aesa kuch bada hi hua hoga ki uss ke bad usme itni zyada bitterness aa gai suman ke liye to sahi par sab ladkiyo ke liye bhi...so abhi to vo story unfold hona baki hai..

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