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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ok so I'm back for some time.
Umar Khalid is not a terrorist. He is a PhD student. By that logic, so many humanities PhD students should be jailed. This is what students of humanities do - they question government and legal decisions by studying, analysing and interpreting legal judgements and administrative documents.
You can disagree with his opinion and his interpretation. So make a counter argument. Offer a different interpretation of the same material. You cannot jail him for having an opinion that is different to yours, no matter how repulsive that opinion may seem to you. It is not sedition or anti-national to question the nation-state.
If you google the Indian map in India, google maps shows Kashmir as part of India. If you google it in Pakistan, they show it as part of Pakistan. If you google it in a third country like America or Australia, it shows the territory as disputed. How come these nationalists are not at the google office, demanding that they show only one map with Kashmir as part of India? Why do they accept Americans calling the territory occupied (as the UN and the American government does) but not other Indian people who may be speaking within an academic context?
Umar Khaled was cut off in the Times Now debate when Arnab started speaking and refused to let him finish. As for the slogans, yes, there was a rally at the JNU campus and a fight broke out between two groups of students - one, the ABVP and two, students organising a public rally about Kashmir. So far, in this country, you can organise a public rally about any issue, so they were not breaking any law in organising one. Both sides shouted slogans. The president of the JNU students union came to calm the situation down. The transcript of his speech is freely available. He did not raise any anti-India slogans, in fact his speech begins by him declaring that he has full faith in the constitution of India and that these problems can be solved.
Times Now showed a video given to them by the BJP spokesperson. The video is doctored. It takes slogans that Kanhaiya made in a different speech - where he said "azaadi lekar rahenge - azadi bhookh se, jaatiwaad se, striyon par atyachar se" - and put it together with the footage of that night. Two news channels have proved that this video is doctored. Arnab himself first said they never aired the video, then took it back to say that they did say that the video was unverified. In fact, it was one of the guests on his panel who pointed out that the video was unverified, not him.
So this is the situation on the ground. A man who did not raise the slogans in question has been arrested. All those who respect the courts of India are not actually waiting for the court to decided whether he is guilty or innocent - he has been beaten up twice while the police watched and did nothing. Police raid JNU hostels regularly and male police inspectors walk into girls hostels without warning. The students and teachers of JNU have been marching and protesting every single day, and holding open air classes. They are very specifically asking for: a) the release of the union president b) stop the witch hunt and calling students anti-nationa; and c)remove police from the JNU campus. Nowhere have they said that they do not want to fly the national flag on JNU. Arnab is now bringing this up to get TRPs as save himself since he has very obviously been involved in provoking popular opinion and inciting a lynching mob.
The definition of hate speech is speech that is calculated to evoke violence. Four slogans of JNU students are not as much of hate speech as what Arnab has done, shouting down other people and saying on tv "you are anti-national". Today it has happened to an academic. Tomorrow a person eating beef/marrying a Muslim could be accused of the same thing if it suits Arnab.
Finally, you can call me all the names you want. You can call this story fabricated. Both points of views are easily available online. Believe what you will.
PS: I am not a JNU student or teacher. I am an academic with lots of friends across many different colleges and universities in Delhi. I'm not basing this on one news reporter but on many different news reports, on accounts of people who were actually there and from both sides of the ideological border. Just yesterday 3 ABVP students have also resigned because while they may disagree with the left on a variety of things, they understood that the media and politicians are using this issue to create hatred for JNU.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Patriotism,the last refuge of the hypocrites and the scoundrels.
No one gave a flying fcuk when medals were torn off army veterans agitating for OROP,but off course we should all cry because a sanghi general is crying.
Who gives an eff for the complete dhajjiyan, jo udi of law and order in Delhi,of the doctored and fake video's circulated to villify an entire university as people go about destroying the pillars of democracy.
But hey ,no one dare say anything about them flags-as long as we get the window dressing right,who cares what lies inside.
Khushwant Singh said it better talking about religious hypocrites-
jhoot be hum bolte hain,kam bhi hum tolte hain par bhagwan tera naam bhu hum roj leete hain.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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http://m.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/15-years-before-hrd-diktat-jnu-hoisted-flag/article8259680.ece


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15 years before HRD diktat, JNU hoisted flag
Updated: February 20, 2016 05:33 IST | Kritika Sharma Sebastian


It was under the Tricolour that JNUSU president Kanhaiya Kumar gave a hard-hitting speech, a day before he wasarrested under sedition charges.photo: special arrangement
Students say they do not need to be taught patriotism through symbolic gestures
: The national flag has been fluttering atop the Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) for around 15 years now.

The university, which is currently under turmoil over an event on Afzal Guru in the campus, was named by the HRD Ministry as the first university where the Tricolour should be hoisted after the government on Thursday decided to fly the national flag atop a 207-feet mast in all central universities to evoke "nationalistic sentiments" on campuses.

Right under the Tricolour was where JNU Students' Union president Kanhaiya Kumar gave a hard-hitting speech, just a day before he was arrested under charges of sedition for allegedly raising anti-national slogans at the Afzal Guru event on February 9.

In his speech on February 11, he criticised the caste-system, brahminical oppression and the RSS trying to make inroads in Indian universities.

"We don't need a certificate of patriotism from the RSS. We don't need the RSS to certify us as nationalists. We are of this country and love the soil of India. We fight for those 80 per cent of this country's people who are poor. For us, this is desh bhakti. We have full faith in Babasaheb," Kanhaiya had said on February 11.

The speech, which largely mentioned his feelings towards the country, added: "We have full faith in our country's Constitution. And we want to assert that if anyone lifts a finger against this country's Constitution, we won't tolerate it".

The students on Friday said they do not need to be taught patriotism through symbolic gestures. "The Tricolour has been flying atop our university for many years. Now is the turn to fly Tricolour on the headquarters of RSS in Nagpur, since they do not understand any colour other than saffron," said JNUSU Vice-President Shehla Rashid Shora.

The faculty members at the university have also started a one-hour long lecture on nationalism every evening right under the Tricolour, at the administration block.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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All the universities already have national flag hoisted
I studied from DU and IP and in our college building there has been a flag flying high since past 20 years
BJP just want to create propaganda in the name of patriotism , for them the simple formula is anti-BJP is same as anti-national
What else could have expected from an HRD minister who herself is living on a fake degree
On topic I really appreciate akshay's thoughts, he has always been a symbol of proud indian
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Good move by BJP to divert attention from jabardasti ka creation-intolerance debate and JNU raw. Just b4 Budget session. 😆 Hope the Budget session goes productive unlike the previous ones. India needs economic progress.
Congress cant oppose "Flag hoisting" openly or they will be under huge backlash. HRD min. also had all the VCs approval for the decision. Now, those who oppose will be clearly be called anti-nationals who dont respect constitution and democratic process. Agar dum hai to bolke dikhao.
Well said Akshay! Tricolour for unity and pride! Vijayi vishwa teeranga pyara, jhanda uncha rahe humara.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

Good move by BJP to divert attention from jabardasti ka creation-intolerance debate and JNU raw. Just b4 Budget session. 😆 Hope the Budget session goes productive unlike the previous ones. India needs economic progress.

Congress cant oppose "Flag hoisting" openly or they will be under huge backlash. HRD min. also had all the VCs approval for the decision. Now, those who oppose will be clearly be called anti-nationals who dont respect constitution and democratic process. Agar dum hai to bolke dikhao.
Well said Akshay! Tricolour for unity and pride! Vijayi vishwa teeranga pyara, jhanda uncha rahe humara.


Rita Joshi of Congress


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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is no major opposition to hoisting flag , stop making it as there is just to rile people's emotions 🤔 Anyways all educational institutions hoist it, if not all the time then atleast on national occasions . Nobody is even talking about budget here and i would have preferred these estimated 45lakhs rs ( to hoist national flag in all universities ) to be allocated to more useful purpose i.e to children services where money is cut drastically but then everyone has different priorities.

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