Throwback Sunday....a wonderful post

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I came across this post and found this as the most fascinating and interesting read on the story of Manmarziyan during that time. This thread was posted in June 2014 , persadian who wrote this was brilliant in her insight , so wanted to share it with you
The title of the post was " Game Set Match ", so Enjoy reading

3 Things I want to say

  • You can't fix a broken man, but he can break you.
  • Guided missiles. Misguided man.
  • Arjun is always reaching for Sam.

So again, everything I am saying is playing out that way, little girls just cant understand what women see so clearly!!!

Arjuns closer to Sam: On the pathway to truth there will be sharp stones to cut you along the way, instead of being afraid and changing course, bulldoze through them and move full steam ahead...

...Arjun should be a motivational speaker.

If you have played chess, you understand the gist of the game is to capture the opponent's king, you take the queen and the king is easy pickings, more or less.

Lets look at the key players in Arjuns game of chess (Arjun represents every piece on his side of the board)

  • King - Samrat
  • Queen - Piyali
  • Rook 1 - Sam
  • Rook 2 - Birdsong
  • Knight 1 - Neil
  • Knight 2 - Radhika
  • Bishops - we are yet to see
  • Pawns - can be anyone of them - Bonnie/Tej/Changu/Mangu

Rooks are the warriors/pillars that hold the most important piece in security and is the only piece that can make a move the king can make because rooks are stronger than bishops or knights and 2 rooks are worth more than the queen. 2 rooks are enough to enforce victory over the opponent. Rooks are most powerful towards the end of a game, a very powerful piece to deliver checkmate.

Watching the important pieces make their moves in this episode. Let's understand.

Sam remembered that line Arjun said, I am here only for Samrat and nothing else. Why is Samrat the obvious choice to be the wrongdoer why would it be so hard to believe that the one person we haven't taken into consideration to be Arjuns point of existence, could be Piyali, we have already seen what she can be like as an enemy, after the mother/daughter patch up scene, have there been any tender moments since. They showed us how Samrat truly loves his daughter, and we have equally been shown how Piyali could truly hate her daughter. So it shouldnt be hard to imagine that it could just be all because of her.

So to get to Samrat, Arjun has to go for the jugular, right now, he has Piyali/Queen and Birdsong/Rook2 in the palm of his hand, Sam is that 1 rook that's on the board still being protected by her 2 knights, Radhika and Neil, and today we saw them take their places, knight 1 charge and knight 2 block, that was just so perfectly done.

My heart thrummed for Neil and Arjuns staring war, they have such chemistry, if looks could kill then Arjun would be dead already. I love how Neil says the least yet his body language and facial expression are piercing.

Neil and Radhika have Arjuns number, the game is to block his every move, and if they do that then they ensure that Sam is always protected.

If Arjun possesses Sam then he believes he is powerful enough to capture the king and become the victor. But, also, if Arjun owns both Birdsong and Sam, he doesn't need the king. He has won. Sam is Arjuns endgame.

A woman can leave you in her mind and still be there in the physical. Sam is not stupid, the flashback proves this, this morning she had only love for him, this evening she has doubts, but again I love how mature this couple is, this is how any couple should communicate with each other to survive "I shouldnt listen to what others tell me, what's important is what you tell me" even though she knows "my friends know best" Arjun tells Radhika when someone wants for love, and finds it every other relation is no longer needed, But Sam has only ever craved the love of her mother. A mother is a childs first friend, best friend, and Gods sacred bond, loving Arjun and thinking he loves her was just a bonus.

Sam is going to give him the benefit of the doubt and hear him out and she is going to have her say as well.

Watching her today walk up those stairs, she was already ready to crumble, seeing her tears streak across her face, was even more hard, I can barely imagine how the truth is going to break her, if Piyali only clipped her wings, then Arjun is going to break her mind body and soul, total devastation is down the road. But Arjun said Love destroys and thereafter only darkness follows.

Arjun still doesn't understand that the more precisely you plan, the harder destiny will hit you, even if you're the smartest of all, you're still stupid when it involves the heart. Love constitutes trust and honesty. Sam gave him her trust and her honesty, in all interactions between Sam and Arjun, he is always reaching towards her, he always looks enchanted by her, I think his love for her is mixed up in his plan for revenge, his judgement is clouded and...

...the day Sam discovers who Arjun really is, her real tears wont be those that we now see fall from her eyes and cover her face, but those that will fall from her heart and cover her soul, is the day Arjun is destroyed in love...

That will be the day he has to fight for her trust and honesty and make her completely his..

The Ardhika ship just sailed, Arjun and Radhika will never be lovers, lines are officially drawn, they are on opposing sides and Radhika is always going to choose Sam over anyone.

First love never dies. It's obviously powerful enough to bring Arjun to this point.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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nice post.i think ur samarj fan.u mention that First love never dies. It's obviously powerful enough to bring Arjun to this point. but arjun love is fake.then how it is possible?arjun truly love in radz only.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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never thought the show in terms of chess...
a different angle... nice
good post
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Interesting post.
I would say this analysis was probably apt at the time when it seemed like Arjun and Sam were the end game until the writers decided to change the track.

I wasn't really watching the show at that time. I only started watching the show during the Lonavala track...I think all can agree after that the couples had changed to Neil and Sam and Radhika and Arjun.

In the game of love and war anything can happen.

A lot of times who you think you want or need sometimes isn't what is destined for you instead something even greater is given to you.

Arjun played the game but in the end he was taken out by one of the knights. He never meant to fall in love or perhaps develop feelings/relationships to any of the people he encountered be it Sam, Radhika, or Neil. He was purely there for revenge for his Nandini's sake.

But through this game he found:

A kindred soul in Sam - someone at the time in her own darkness and loneliness that he probably identify with, she was craving love from her mother while he being an orphan and adopted always craved the love of parents

Neil a brother/friend - we really didn't get to see their relationship grow only the snippets shown in the last episode did we see the emergence of a friendship...bromance? LOL

The Light of his Life Radhika - someone who showed him Life didn't have to be dark, in despair, and about loneliness. She countered all the negative aspects of Love. His darkness/revenge with light/sacrifice. She was willing to sacrifice herself to protect those she loved while he would destroy everything in his wake for a sacrificial revenge. I think that is perhaps what drew him closer to Radhika in the end. How could anyone be this good?

The reality was Arjun was never really a bad person. Nandini manipulated him to do things that even he probably felt after spending time with his intended target Sam and her friends that these were good people. There were times even Arjun had to question himself...his own humanity of what he was doing. Radhika was that voice of reason that wouldn't let him forget that if it was true Samrat hurt Nandini then go after him leave everyone else out of this issue. Why target innocent people?

And in the crossfire of this game Arjun succumb to Love and he found his Light.

I think the storyline would have worked with either couple. Two lost souls who find a way to make their own Light to save themselves from the Darkness. Or a couple where the other half teaches the other how to Live and let go of the pain.

I am partial of course to Ardhika so I like the banter that Arjun and Radhika had...some times childish but then again you can't live so serious all the time. You got to learn how to smile. Radhika taught Arjun how to smile and opened his world to the Light of Love.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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TFS tina..
hmm...everyone has their pov's n their favorites...i respect dat...d thing z d way d person explained/came to his/her point vth d game was nice...

it reminds me of my thiking, i think 3-4 days back also i thought of y i preffered ardhika n nesam as pair n all...in d AT though

n today i was reading few articles on IF abt variety of stories...n i tried to open a soap forum mentioned...there every topic was locked...so was thinking wat vl happen if d visiting persons of DYM vl become less...n i dnt want dat...so came here for visit...saw this post...


for me, even though d promotional photo shoot n d DYM launch videos, made it clear dat ARdhika z gng to b pair clearly...but i watched those videos later only...but still, wen i watched d serial first thing i felt z, neil z more than BFF for sam...sam didnt realise, n thought they r gng to realise it soon...n radhika z gng to b good frieds vth n neil n sam...

later got radhika z gng to b BFF vth sam though...but i wanted it to b radhika n neil as BFF...anyways they showed their friendship n left remaining to our imagination...

n even though arjun n sam r good looking...but they r not r8 for each other...bcz i felt sam z not understanding neil in d first place who z vth her from childhood...then how d hell she z gng to understand arjun n all...

n its very clear form d start, arjun didnt love her...i even had this doubt, wat if arjun changes for sam... at dat time also, i felt its not possible bcz, from d start he warned her bcz he was good as a person...n he did wat z needed n then left her...either its dance or any other situation...he showed how much he z not in love vth sam, through his anger at radhika... he never was his real self vth sam...he acted as a perfect person always...how sam wanted or would liked...mainly the cv's never showed his changing for good for sam..nor d way he admiring her forgetting himself...he never uttered love word nor showed dat in his actions whole heartedly

my main point was, if sam really sees love in arjun eyes n knows its actually love...dats d time, she vl realise all these years, dats wat she has seen in neil's eyes n actions..

but it vl happen wen she actually looks at his eyes r8...she always forgotten herslef vth arjun's actions...u cant live vth just attraction for a life time...if arjun chnages n loves sam, then his pretence vl b gone, n sam vl come to face vth his real self...n she vl b bored vthin few days or months...bcz he z not d type she vl b happy in life...she cant take his intense emotions...if she didnt understand n neil's n her mom's n manya's feelings/emotions...then how z she supposed to understand arjun even if he loved her...so it vl make him fall out of love vth in short span of time making their lives a bigger garbage than nandhu's...

i think dats y ardhika n nesam...if sam doesnt hav feelings for neil, even after she knowing his love, i am not gn to say she can nevr find any other person...but she has to change herself a lot...which she wnt do...so, it vl b good as ardhika n nesam only...


d person said few things ...which worked truly for ardhika...

"The Ardhika ship just sailed, Arjun and Radhika will never be lovers, lines are officially drawn, they are on opposing sides and Radhika is always going to choose Sam over anyone.

First love never dies. It's obviously powerful enough to bring Arjun to this point./"


radhika choose sam over arjun...true...at d end also it looked like dat...but d thing z radhika did dat for arjun...bcz she trusted him dat he vl clear his mistake...


first love never dies...so true not only for arjun...for everyone in DYM...i mean for d four


neil's first love...he got sam

sam's first love...she got neil...


radhika's first love...she got her first love arjun

n d great arjun's first love...he got his first love n world radhika


it may sound clich...but wat to do, we hav to think like dat...bcz ardhika r not just lovers...they r soulmates in DYM...


yes, d lines r officially drawn, bcz both hav their own reason...they love so much...dats y they overcame dat line...


they r on opposite sides..yes wen they talk...they do look like dat...thats d way they balance their relationship...bcz they never gav up...but their action n target z always on a single direction..

so First love never dies. It's obviously powerful enough to bring Arjun to this point...to change for his first love radhika ...


As Grace said, d story could hav worked vth any pair...


but it could hav made good sense vth ardhika n nesam...

bcz btween these pairs, there z no pretense...they behave as themselves...which vl work for d entire life


hmm...just my pov...no offense to any one...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I completely forgot to mention Neil and Sam in this...lol
Sam took Neil for granted. He had always been her pillar. The knight to protect her. She never truly realized what she had until he decided to leave her behind.

I have to disagree about the promos lavv the promo's of DYM the selling one to SP that promo was pointing to Arjun and Sam and Radhika and Neil as couples.

Scripts tend to change once the show starts filming on the floor...this could be due to TRPs, writers deciding to change the track for whatever reason i.e unforseen spark and chemistry between two characters that they didn't account for, and maybe fans.


I guess I am glad it turned out to be Ardhika and NeSam in the end
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Posted: 9 years ago
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well I for one thought Ardhika and Nesam were always the decided pair.
I thought this was how they started the story

that Arjun and Sam were walking towards each other, one with revenge in mind and the other with love in mind. While Arjun's path is diverted with Radhika's entry , Neil who was walking behind Sam like a shadow finally comes out in light and takes hold of Sam...

I think this was the original concept but because the channel kept pressurising them, they had to make many changes like nandini's evil plots and the shaadi drama all of a sudden.

I also thought at the start of lonavla trip, the sam and arjun fall in love with neil and radhika respectively and come back with changed feelings and they would take it from there...at least with nesam, they were indicating that at the beginning of the trip but then again they changed and brought it back to square one for introducing nandini...

Manya was supposed to create trouble between nesam thus making sam realize but then again because the channel decided to end it in august itself, manya was shown the door and marriage drama took place in a hurry .



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: iheartChai

I completely forgot to mention Neil and Sam in this...lol

Sam took Neil for granted. He had always been her pillar. The knight to protect her. She never truly realized what she had until he decided to leave her behind.

I have to disagree about the promos lavv the promo's of DYM the selling one to SP that promo was pointing to Arjun and Sam and Radhika and Neil as couples.

Scripts tend to change once the show starts filming on the floor...this could be due to TRPs, writers deciding to change the track for whatever reason i.e unforseen spark and chemistry between two characters that they didn't account for, and maybe fans.


I guess I am glad it turned out to be Ardhika and NeSam in the end


Hey Grace i was not talking abt SP promos...

DYM cast did some photoshoot b4 launch /after launch i dnt know...dats in d youtube...in dat they they hav individual IV, then arjun-radhika seperately..yah, they do hav pairs too...its always ardhika n nesam from d start...but SP made sure to use d plot to get more trp vth d few promo's they gave...

but d voice over says, radhika z gng to fall in love vth arjun n ardhika being pair...its DYM launch promo photo shoot...

anyways...tina for me too its always ardhika n nesam from d start...

yes, SP tried its tricks to get trp's... after everyone decided its gng to b ardhika n nesam also, in their parivar awards, they used tricks...lol...after lonavala ...its entirely for trp n SP...

otherwise they could hav gone vth, as tina said arjun n sam realising their love for radhika n neil, coming back to mumbai...arjun gng against his revenge or change in revenge...n searching for his real sister...n manya's tricks making sam jealous/realise neil's importance in her life could hav been worked...

bechari manya didnt get much to act...she z pretty though...like her mom...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: lavv


Hey Grace i was not talking abt SP promos...

DYM cast did some photoshoot b4 launch /after launch i dnt know...dats in d youtube...in dat they they hav individual IV, then arjun-radhika seperately..yah, they do hav pairs too...its always ardhika n nesam from d start...but SP made sure to use d plot to get more trp vth d few promo's they gave...

but d voice over says, radhika z gng to fall in love vth arjun n ardhika being pair...its DYM launch promo photo shoot...

anyways...tina for me too its always ardhika n nesam from d start...

yes, SP tried its tricks to get trp's... after everyone decided its gng to b ardhika n nesam also, in their parivar awards, they used tricks...lol...after lonavala ...its entirely for trp n SP...

otherwise they could hav gone vth, as tina said arjun n sam realising their love for radhika n neil, coming back to mumbai...arjun gng against his revenge or change in revenge...n searching for his real sister...n manya's tricks making sam jealous/realise neil's importance in her life could hav been worked...

bechari manya didnt get much to act...she z pretty though...like her mom...


Oh I see. I saw the selling promos to SP and that one you got the vibe it was Arjun and Sam and Radhika and Neil. I didn't see the trailer launch that said it was Arjun and Radhika as the end game.

When I use to flip around the channels I would catch bits and pieces of the show (yup non Indian purchases SP and Zee on Dish Network to watch Indian Serials) I kept seeing Arjun and Sam and assumed they were the possible end couple. But when I finally saw Radhika and Arjun interact I really liked their spark/chemistry.


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