After death-what happend to us??

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i would like to ask this question to them as each religion have there own religious belief .. so like to know about u r views on the same...



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Life After Death

By World Assembly of Muslim Youth1

How Do Muslims View Death?

Muslims believe that the present life is a trial in preparation for the next realm of existence. When a Muslim dies, he or she is washed and wrapped in a clean, white cloth (usually by a family member) and buried after a special prayer, preferably the same day. Muslims consider this a final service that they can do for their relatives and an opportunity to remember that their own existence here on earth is brief.

The question of whether there is life after death does not fall under the jurisdiction of science, as science is concerned only with classification and analysis of sense data. Moreover, man has been busy with scientific inquiries and research, in the modern sense of the term, only for the last few centuries, while he has been familiar with the concept of life after death since time immemorial.
All the Prophets of God called their people to worship God and to believe in life after death. They laid so much emphasis on the belief in life after death that even a slight doubt in it meant denying God and made all other beliefs meaningless.

The very fact that all the Prophets of God have dealt with this metaphysical question of life after death so confidently and so uniformly - the gap between their ages in some cases, being thousands of years - goes to prove that the source of their knowledge of life after death as proclaimed by them all, was the same, i.e. Divine revelation.

We also know that these Prophets of God were greatly opposed by their people, mainly on the issue of life after death, as their people thought it impossible. But in spite of opposition, the Prophets won many sincere followers.

The question arises: what made those followers forsake the established beliefs, traditions and customs of their forefathers, notwithstanding the risk of being totally alienated from their own community? The simple answer is: they made use of their faculties of mind and heart and realized the truth.

Did they realize the truth through perceptual consciousness? They couldn't, as perceptual experience of life after death is impossible. God has given man besides perceptual consciousness, rational, aesthetic and moral consciousness too. It is this consciousness that guides man regarding realities that cannot be verified through sensory data. That is why all the Prophets of God while calling people to believe in God and life after death, appeal to the aesthetic, moral and rational consciousness of man.

For example, when the idolaters of Makkah denied even the possibility of life after death, the Quran exposed the weakness of their stand by advancing very logical and rational arguments in support of it:

And he (i.e. man) presents for Us an example (i.e. attempting to establish the finality of death) and forgets his [own] creation. He says, "Who will give life to bones while they are disintegrated?" Say, "He will give them life who produced them the first time; and He is, of all creation, Knowing." [It is] He who made for you from the green tree, fire, and then from it you ignite. Is not He who created the heavens and the earth Able to create the likes of them? Yes, [it is so]; and He is the Knowing Creator. (Quran, 36:78-81)

On another occasion, the Quran very clearly says that the disbelievers have no sound basis for their denial of life after death. It is based on pure conjecture:

And they say, "There is not but our worldly life; we die and live (i.e. some people die and others live, replacing them) and nothing destroys us except time." And they have of that no knowledge; they are only assuming. And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, their argument is only that they say, "Bring [back] our forefathers, if you should be truthful." Say, "God causes you to live, then causes you to die; then He will assemble you for the Day of Resurrection, about which there is no doubt," but most of the people do not know. (Quran, 45:24-26)

Surely God will raise all the dead. But God has His own plan of things. A day will come when the whole universe will be destroyed and then the dead will be resurrected to stand before God. That day will be the beginning of a life that will never end, and on that day every person will be rewarded by God according to his or her good or evil deeds.

The explanation that the Quran gives about the necessity of life after death is what the moral consciousness of man demands. Actually, if there is no life after death, the very belief in God becomes meaningless or even if one believes in God, it would be n unjust and indifferent God, having once created man and now not being concerned with his fate.

Surely, God is just. He will punish the tyrants, whose crimes are beyond count - having tortured and killed hundreds or thousands of innocent people, created great corruption in society, enslaved numerous persons to serve their whims, etc., because man has a very short life span in this world and because numerous individuals are affected by one's actions, adequate punishments and rewards are not possible in this life. The Quran very emphatically states that the Day of Judgment must come and that God will decide the fate of each soul according to his or her record of deeds:

But those who disbelieve say, "The Hour (i.e. the Day of Judgment) will not come to us." Say, "Yes, by my Lord, it will surely come to you. [God is] the Knower of the unseen." Not absent from Him is an atom's weight within the heavens or within the earth or [what is] smaller than that or greater, except that it is in a clear register - That He may reward those who believe and do righteous deeds. Those will have forgiveness and noble provision. But those who strive against Our verses [seeking] to cause failure (i.e. to undermine their credibility) - for them will be a painful punishment of foul nature. (Quran, 34:3-5)

The Day of Resurrection will be the Day when God's attributes of Justice and Mercy will be in full manifestation. God will shower His mercy on those who suffered for His sake in the worldly life, believing that an eternal bliss was awaiting them. But those who abused the bounties of God, caring nothing for the life to come, will be in the most miserable state. Drawing a comparison between them, the Quran says:

Then is he whom We have promised a good promise which he will meet [i.e. obtain] like he for whom We provided enjoyment of worldly life [but] then he is, on the Day of Resurrection, among those presented [for punishment in Hell]? (Quran, 28:61)

The Quran also states that this worldly life is a preparation for the eternal life after death. But those who deny it become slaves of their passions and desires, making fun of virtuous and God-conscious persons.

Such persons realize their folly only at the time of their death and wish to be given a further chance in the world but in vain. Their miserable state at the time of death, and the horror of the Day of Judgment, and the eternal bliss guaranteed to the sincere believers are very clearly and beautifully mentioned in the following verses of the Quran:

[For such is the state of the disbelievers], until, when death comes to one of them, he says, "My Lord, send me back that I might do righteousness in that which I left behind (i.e. in that which I neglected)." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected. So when the Horn is blown, no relationship will there be among them that Day, nor will they ask about one another. And those whose scales are heavy [with good deeds] - it is they who are the successful. But those whose scales are light - those are the ones who have lost their souls, [being] in Hell, abiding eternally. The Fire will sear their faces, and they therein will have taut smiles (i.e. their lips having been contracted by scorching until the teeth are exposed). (Quran, 23:99-104)

The belief in life after death not only guarantees success in the Hereafter but also makes this world full of peace and happiness by making individuals most responsible and dutiful in their activities.

Think of the people of Arabia before the arrival of the Prophet Muhammad . Gambling, wine, tribal feuds, plundering and murdering were their main traits when they had no belief in life after death. But as soon as they accepted the belief in the One God and life after death they became the most disciplined nation of the world. They gave up their vices, helped each other in hours of need, and settled all their disputes on the basis of justice and equality. Similarly the denial of life after death has its consequences not only in the Hereafter but also in this world. When a nation as a whole denies it, all kinds of evils and corruption become rampant in that society and ultimately it is destroyed.

The Quran mentions the terrible end of Aad, Thamud and the Pharaoh in some detail:

[The tribes of] Thamud and Aad denied the Striking Calamity [i.e. the Resurrection]. So as for Thamud, they were destroyed by the overpowering [blast]. And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a screaming, violent wind which He [i.e. God] imposed upon them for seven nights and eight days in succession, so you would see the people therein fallen as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees. Then do you see of them any remains? And there came Pharaoh and those before him and the overturned cities (i.e. those to which Lot was sent) with sin. And they disobeyed the messenger of their Lord, so He seized them with a seizure exceeding [in severity]. Indeed, when the water overflowed, We carried you [i.e. your ancestors] in the sailing ship (i.e. which was constructed by Noah). That We might make it for you a reminder and [that] a conscious ear would be conscious of it. (Quran, 69:4-12)

Events of the Day of Judgment

God states in the Quran about the events of the Day of Judgment:

Then when the Horn is blown with one blast, and the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow [i.e. stroke] - Then on that Day, the Occurrence [i.e. Resurrection] will occur, And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm (i.e. weak, enfeebled and unstable). And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them]. That Day, you will be exhibited [for judgment]; not hidden among you is anything concealed (i.e. any person or any secret you might attempt to conceal). So as for he who is given his record in his right hand, he will say, "Here, read my record! Indeed, I was certain that I would be meeting my account." So he will be in a pleasant life - In an elevated Garden, Its [fruit] to be picked hanging near. [They will be told], "Eat and drink in satisfaction for what you put forth (i.e. literally, advanced in anticipation of reward in the Hereafter) in the days past." But as for he who is given his record in his left hand, he will say, "Oh, I wish I had not been given my record, and had not known what is my account. I wish it [i.e. my death] had been the decisive one (i.e. ending life rather than being the gateway to eternal life). My wealth has not availed me. Gone from me is my authority." [God will say], "Seize him and shackle him. Then into Hellfire drive him. Then into a chain whose length is seventy cubits insert him." Indeed, he did not used to believe in God, the Most Great. (Quran, 69:13-33)

The Prophet Muhammad taught that three things continue to benefit a [believing] person even after death - charity which he had given (which continues to benefit others), beneficial knowledge which he had left behind (i.e. authored or taught), and supplication on his behalf by a righteous child (Narrated by Saheeh Muslim).

Thus, there are very convincing reasons to believe in life after death:

1) All the Prophets of God have called their people to believe in it.

2) Whenever a human society is built on the basis of this belief, it has been the most ideal and peaceful society, free of social and moral evils.

3) History bears witness that whenever this belief is rejected collectively by a group of people in spite of the repeated warning of the Prophet, the group as a whole has been punished by God even in this world.

4) Moral, aesthetic and rational faculties of man endorse the possibility of the life after death.

5) God's attributes of Justice and Mercy have no meaning if there is no life after death.

Edited by Pensacola.S_02 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: #1EijazFan

^bruv, that article is wayy too long for my likings šŸ˜†
plus im a hindu so my views are the complete opposite anyways, no offence..
re-incarnation is my only answer!
the only evidence we actually have a little evidence on!
look around on this forum and you will find many such members šŸ˜‰šŸ˜›
there is no proof that one will get tortured in 'hell' when they die.
there is no answer to the question that what if someone is 51% evil and 49% bad then what happens to them? šŸ˜• šŸ˜†
re-incarnation is the only solution for me 😳😊



ohh nisha why you are always confused ??? please accept te truth after death good will be sent to heaven and bad to hell by Allah. see this links :-

http://www.islam-guide.com/life-after-death-by-wamy.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/re/death/islifeaft erdeathrev1.shtml
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/life.html
http://www.muslim.org/islam/int-is35.htm
http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/belief/A fterlife/article01.shtml
http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/life-after-death .html
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/islam-faq/part8/
http://www.parvez-video.com/islam/reformation/life_after_dea th/index.asp
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_2005939.shtml

want more at :-



What say evidence nisha ??

AndrošŸ˜‰
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Its is stated in all the scriptures that god is mercyful. At the day of judgement, a person who is send to hell he has to be very very sinful. And a person who return home back to godhead(heaven) has to be 100% god conscience. Or at the time of death if u call his name or remember him then u can go back to godhead. In all the scripture it is stated that "just call my name and u shall be save"

To become a disiple of god u have to follow the laws of god. The sould is not hindu,christan nor muslim

In the Bhagwat Gita Krsna says I am the Supreme Personality of Godhead and everything comes from me.

Going back to godhead(heaven) is not easy, A person has to be very very devoted and qualified to god. And ONLY very sinful people goes to hell and it is stated in the Bhagwat gita.

We are part parcel of god (the children of god), God is eternal, full of knowledge and bliss, therefore we(his children) has those quality but NOT quantity. For example A spark of a fire has all its quality of the fire but NOT quantity. Which part has that quality, the living force within that body which is call the soul? We are that soul not the body.

We are living in this body for example if we're living in an appartment we are not the appartment, simiarly we are living in this body as part and parcel of god but we are not this body but the soul, so the soul is an eternal part and parcel of god( Krsna) is changing this body from boyhood to youth to oldage example u were a baby so where is that baby body? its change completly to another body which is childhood to youth to oldage then finaly death and after death it takes a new body at death according to karma. Karam mean action. if u do good action u get good reaction likewise if u do bad action u get bad reaction in ur next life. (For example when u wear a dress and it gets old u don't stop wearing dress u go and buy a new one) The soul transfer into an evolution of 8 million 4 hundred thousand species of life so it can take any species of body in its next life such as an animal or human being but they are all children of god coz they are created by god. God is mercyful.

To return to the kingdom of god, one has to know god and surender unto him. god is with and without form. Example is the sun and its sunshine. they are 1 and different. the sunshine is not the sun but if the sunshine touches u, u said that the sun touches u. So u have to come to the real form of god

Picture below show how soul passes from boyhood to youth to oldage then death

Pooja

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: #1EijazFan

and bhoomi fan, i have no idea what ur saying
and dont confuse me more, dont bother explaining urself
cos i prolly wnt b bovard 2 read it, im too lazy hehe.
and i am a hindu, pls dont force me 2 believe in heaven and hell when i dont!
infact that andro dude just told me sumfin lyk there is heaven and hell, just believe in allah
err but am i even muslim? šŸ˜•
im hindu and proud and it seems like ppl wanna convert me or sumfin! lol
hindus rulee!! brappp



aree nisha no one wants your bad. Its just to prove the truth otherwise at the end don't tell anyone that no one told me and i don't know😊
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Ah well as a hindu i should believe in reincarnation...though i dont find the entire reincarnation thingy that rational !!Though its great if i can live in many different avatars šŸ˜† ... The concept of Heaven and Hell, in my opinion, was created by the people. If you ever happen to take a class in World Religions, you'll learn not only how people came up with this concept but of the trial and error that lead to that concept

I personally believe nobody knows what can happen after death. Maybe we do get reincarnated. Maybe we do end up in places like Heaven and Hell. Or maybe, when we die, that's it. We're dead..and turn to a mere waste. We cease to exist not only bodily but spiritually, as well. Like I said, nobody knows.


p.s no offence guys its just my personal opinion
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Originally posted by: Bhoomi_fan

Well i am a muslim, so i believe in the article Pensacola.S_02 gave. yes, i believe in that. and very much thanks for giving the article.


#1EijazFan wrote:
^bruv, that article is wayy too long for my likings
plus im a hindu so my views are the complete opposite anyways, no offence..
re-incarnation is my only answer!
the only evidence we actually have a little evidence on!
look around on this forum and you will find many such members
there is no proof that one will get tortured in 'hell' when they die.
there is no answer to the question that what if someone is 51% evil and 49% bad then what happens to them?
re-incarnation is the only solution for me

if someone is 49% evil, then that person will be burn in hell for the 49% gunah (bad things) he did. and after he is punished Allah (god) will sent him to heaven. This is the rule. evry person will be at first punished for the bad things he did (no one knows how long!) and then they will be sent to heaven. Just like when a theif is caught he is sent to jail, but after 10 or some year, when his punishments finishes, he is again get free from jail. in the same way that happens, first allah punishes, and then send to heaven. But if the person has done a very bad work, for instance, killing, sucide, rape, etc, then the person will be kept in hell forever....just like a murderer is kept in prison forever...

And this way, the judgment will be perfect. becaz in life, always a bad person doesnt get his punishment, and sometimes good person get punishment....so there have to be a life after deth, wen GOD will make all judgment...

it is also stated tha Allah is mercyful, and if allah is mercyful y does he send people to hell?šŸ˜•

If a person only does 49% of wrong things y can't allah forgive u?šŸ˜•šŸ˜•

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Originally posted by: Bhoomi_fan

So, even if allah is merciful, he will not send a person to heaven if the person has commited a huge crime. If someone has done 49% of bad things, why will allah forgive u? Doz the law forgive a criminal who hasattempted murder, or stole things? No. Just like that allah will not forgive, but sent to hell for the punishment. and wen the punishment will be over, allah will bring him back to heaven, just as a criminal is brot back from the prison to the free world.

Ok so it means Allah says that u shouldn't kill but yet u kill the cow and eats it?šŸ˜•šŸ˜• how can god forgive u if u kill his children? every living entity on this earth is gods children, even tiny creatures such as ants, mouse, worms and so on. Ur basicaly telling me that if u kill a human being u will go to hell but if u kill a cow u will go to heaven?šŸ˜•

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I personally believe nobody knows what can happen after death. Maybe we do get reincarnated. Maybe we do end up in places like Heaven and Hell. Or maybe, when we die, that's it. We're dead..and turn to a mere waste. We cease to exist not only bodily but spiritually, as well. Like I said, nobody knows.

p.s no offence guys its just my personal opinion

šŸ‘ Very well saidšŸ‘šŸ‘ I totally agree with youšŸ˜› Although I am VERY tempted to believe this also:

Human life is just a stage in the upward march of the soul. The individual has got birth as a human being, after going through lower forms of life. Human life is the final stage in the soul's progress to divinity. It is for us to make the most of this opportunity and thereby end our cycle of transmigration.

Death means the destruction of the physical self. The ashes and bonedust mix with the elements. But the soul which leaves the body, awaits a new dwelling. Just as a person casts off worn-out garments and puts on other that are new, so the subtle soul casts off the worn-out body and dwells in a new form. If there were no continuance of the soul after death, how could it become perfect to merit union with the Almighty?

Sikhism believes in the immortality of the soul. The devotee has no fear of the pangs of death. In fact he welcomes death, because it gives him a chance for the merger into Divinity. The evil person, however, dreads death. For him, it will lead to the unending cycle of birth and death. After death, man comes to the next birth according to what he deserves. If he has been wicked and evil, he takes birth in the lower species. If he has done good deeds, he takes birth in a good family. The cycle of birth and death keeps the soul away from Divinity. It can merge with God, only if the individual, by spiritual effort, has amassed the capital of the Name(the Holy spirit as understood by Christians) and thus lives with the Holy Spirit.
Guru Arjan in the Sukhmani dwells on the sad plight of the soul which is not endowed with the Name. The soul in its lonely march through darkness can only find sustenance in the word of God. Otherwise it feels the weariness and pain of isolation.

The soul, Jiva, is a part of God. It is deathless like Him. Before creation, it lived with God. After Creation it takes bodily forms according to His Will. The soul is, however, nourished by virtue and meditation on "The name". The transmigration of the soul can come to an end by meditation and divine grace

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Well to be honest, i don't really know what happens after death. Of course we get to hear from Priests what is supposed to happen and as a matter of fact we believe what our religion, religious persons tell us.

I can only say that i think that somewhere above there is a place where all dead people do meet.. okay let me say it in a better way..where the souls/aatma's of dead people meet! and from above..i don't know if the place is heaven or hell..those souls can see what we do..they do watch over us..

I've read some books..and esp abt near-dead experiences and people do see some place, where it's all bright and light...they almost go there, but get back to life....and then i think maybe maybe there is a place where the souls go to!

Anyways.. this will be a mystery for everyone... till u experience it yourself.. but yeah.. how will u share then what happened to you??šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

well who knows.. maybe somewhere in the future we will get to know what happens😃


Ps: Please avoid situations where you are trying to force ur opinion on others! Think about it.. everyone has his/her own views.. please try to respect that!


Thanks!

LOve,
Gracella

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