Jodha Akbar 76-78: Clarity and confusion - Page 13

Originally posted by: devkidmd

Hi Putija Di,

The little snippet about Akbar leaving Jodha alone is very sweet. I too have read it somewhere but definitely not on Abhay's thread. This incident is also not from the Akbarnama or the other two main biographies of Akbar(unless I missed it when reading, these books can be very intense with a lot of info). The reason I say this so confidently is because I do have all three on hand.

But it is definitely very cute and certainly in line with what I feel Akbar must have been in his personal life as opposed to what some authors say.

And you are right, the incident about the Delhi noble's wife has to be taken with not just a pinch but a big handful of salt.😆

Devki

Originally posted by: Bindu_nhbr

@Shogun
Thnx for the link 😊
Felt good reading Akbar describing Jo and that she held his hand.
Don't know how authentic it is,but in the comments its mentioned that even Abhay had posted this.
Do u have the link of Abhay's post?

Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

Your most welcome Bindu di...😃

Yeah...a very cute snippet it was. Felt good to read that.

I don't think Abhay ever mentioned this on one of his threads. He might have mentioned it somewhere as a snippet in a comment. Though, I never read it anywhere else. 😃

Originally posted by: sashashyam

But Shagun, there is nothing by way of historical proof offered here, is there?


Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: KanJmaskis

Marvellous analysis aunty as always ,, u r the gem of analysis what deep emotions and logics u put r damn correct and appealing , showing ur deep understanding of human behavior...

Okk not making it point to point as i m already very late and short of time...

Episode 76

What is the highlight of the episode and also worth to watch the conversation between two inner souls/thinking of jo especially the conversation by the green jodha as u said

It was as brutally frank as what Mainavati had said in the court : Prarambh tumnekiya! Tum ghrina lekar aayi thi apne man mein. Tumne kabhi unhein nahin apnaya.Unhon ne tumhari har baat maani - and here she covers even the latest permission to celebrate Holi - phir bhi tum Shahenshah ke baare mein aise sochti ho? Phir to tumhein sach mein yahan rehne ka koyi adhikar nahin hai! .. Then the most telling and pointed jibe of all: Baar baar vidroh karke apn aapko aur doosron ko dukhi karna bandh karo, aur Amer laut jao!...

It was not matter much later bt delight to watch

So i wonder y the cvs had not feel to realize this very lines to jo , not in between or after that scene ,when this all was saying by non other than her own soul ... So it came up in very right manner bt lost in that scene only

Ur take upon what was jo ' s fault was apt exactly what she did always...

Next episode 77

Bas! Ek lafz aur nahin Jodha! Jab dekho shikayat, jab dekho taane, ki kabhi humne aapke saath yeh kiya, kabhi humne aapke saath wo kiya! Kabhi ki humne aapko aapki zindagi se cheen liya hai, aapko akela kar diya hai! Lekin aaj tak - and up comes his forefinger in savage emphasis - aapke man mein jo aaya aapne wo kiya, aapke dil mein jo baat thi wo aapne keh di. Humne aapki saari shart maani, aapki saari khwahish ko qubool kiya. Yahan tak ki tumhare Amer lautne ki khwahish ko bhi humen poora kiya (turning the tables neatly on Jodha!). Lekin hum aapko yeh bewaqoofi nahin karne ddenge

Then a most salutary and violent line: Aap apne aapko samajhti kya ho!!!

Hum maante hain ki apni zindagi par aapka haq hai, lekin Mughal sultanat ki izzat aur uske rutbe ko kaayam rakhna hamara farz hai Jodha!Aur hum aapko uski izzat aur uske rutbe ki ruswayi nahin karne denge! Hum maante hain ki Ruqaiya Begum ke maamle mein humse galti hui, lekin jaise hi humein us galti ka ehsaas hua, humne fauran qubool kiya zur sab ke saamne aapse maafi maangi!Lekin aapke dil ne kabhi yeh zehmat uthane ki koshish ki hai ki izzat aur guroor sirf aapke pas nahin hai, baki sab logon ke pas bhi hota hai? Attaboy, I said to myself, that is the stuff to give her!👏 Not that it is going to have much effect, but it was good to hear him telling her a few home truths... exactly 👏👏

Yup the horse riding difference i noticed and it was looking a bit awkward

Yes his concerned of telling moti about his mistress having stopped in his way was a way his kind gesture And delight to watch ... I must say that rajat was as always superb in expressing all Or any shade of human behaviour!! ... He made us connect or feel what ja feels or said usually what he said in one or two lines

He does not kiss the payal as any ordinary lover would. It would be not be like the Shahenshah at all. He tosses it up in the air, but he always catches it, and when it falls into the fire, he burns his hand to retrieve it. This is not so much, as some have thought, a sign of passion for Jodha. He is not yet aware that he is falling in love with her, he does not know what love means. It is rather the possessiveness towards her that, as the line has it, uske parvaan chad gaya tha. For him, the payal symbolizes Jodha, and he will not let go of it or her, even if he has to burn his fingers to secure it

Very good take aunty i liked it soo much...👏👏

The whole scene of ja ' s changing thought s fr jo begum was offcourse a loving one as its a first time when he openly admitting his soft corner fr her also first time acknowledged her his officially wedded wife infront of his badiammi as till now in tbe presence of ruk and maham he always said that he want to marry /married her only to break her gurror ...so it is showing that he had left all these things very behined ...though he never does anything like this to her only these were always a hawayein batein except that song fiasco... Also in the scene he understand her pain and compared with himself and last bt not least when he said " aaj tak koi is mehel se vapas ni gaya aur hum chahenge aage bhi aisa na ho " showing her deep pain and rejection by her fr him fr his home that she always chant a mantra of ghrina and hamara dum ghutta hai yahan ...

And all the while rajat's facial naunce was outstanding as u described ...

Ah, yes, Rajat as this Jalal. What can one say of him, except that one could, after the first few seconds, no longer make out where Rajat ended and Jalal began, or vice versa? The deep set eyes looking inwards into his own zehen, the level voice, factual and devoid of self pity and despite that intensely moving. There can be no greater tribute to Rajat's skills than that he made us forget him and see only the Jalal that he unveiled for us.

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Yeh mat samajhiyega kis hum wahan aapke liye prarthana karenge. Hum to, Mughal sultanate ki Begum hone ke naate, aapni praja ki bhalayi ke liye apne poore man se prarthana karenge. Iske maadhyam se aapka bhi bhala ho jaata hai to humein koyi aapatti nahin.

Exactly ...😡 😡 😡 😡 This was of course something that I had drafted myself, keeping in mind Jodha's visible mindset at that time. It is not anything she is shown as saying.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thank you so much, my dear Kanchan! I am touched by the way in which you are catching up with my older posts. Have you see the last two, The pall of darkness is lifted, which is almost pure satire, and then my latest, Imperial stratagems, which is out today?

not yet aunty bt i m gradually reaching there in my turtle speed 🤣 ...soon will catch them also

I agree with all that you have noted here. It is a great pity that the Green Jodha never reappeared. She was so sensible and practical.

Cvs...😡
I have sent you a detailed, and hopefully authentic account of the death of Chanakya as a 3 part scrap. Do take a look at it. What they are going to show tomorrow, a Julius Caesar style assassination, is pure rubbish. I had cancelled my Colors subscription at the end of October, but that SMS was somehow not acted upon by Tatasky. Now I am going to cancel it on their website on Saturday Nov. 28. I am sick of that show, and of the young Ashoka as well.

Yes i read it... Thanku soo much fr this one aunty

The word again and again come in my mind only disgusting ... Me too will not going to watch the show onwards ...

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Hello shyamala (As u wish)

I just relived those lovely episodes is all I can say; all others hv written whatever I wanted to convey.

Viji