'tumhari sabse badi kamzori ishan hai na? nahi vo meri taaqat h

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I guess many are really unhappy and disgusted of the way shergill said this to preet... Why not see the other side? 😉

Rizwan gives his protection to preet

How apt was the scene 👏 *cut to today*

"Ishan ki jaan ko khatra toh nahi?"

Wow!!!!! What a culmination of yesterday's scene... Superb ⭐️⭐️⭐️


Tumhari sabse badi kamzori ishan hai na?

And surprisingly preet says a NO... Why did she? She was concerned she was afraid but she didn't respond a YES immediately.. And that's what I loved about today... The way writers dealt with ishan/rizwan, jay and preet...

In the long run, rizwan will be preet's biggest weakness... She said NO to ishan (who doesnt exist) being her weakness...

On the contrary when jay affirms that ishan is definitely her weakness she retorts " par vo meri sabse badi taaqat bhi hai". Isn't it so ironical? A hypothetical personality has become her strength? She says that ishan is her strength.. But does she know that this pillar shall wash off like a sand? NO...

A point shall come where she would say ishan is her weakness... But will that be valid then? Will she accept rizwan as her weakness?

Well yes today's epi definitely gave out that the bubble is sure to burst soon...

The sketches have definitely brought up somrthing amiss in her expressions... She hasn't forgotten "main rizwan khan hoon, padosi mulk ka jasoos" . she hasn't forgotten the clicks of ishan with atif.. Yesterday even the taweej made her clueless till rizwan clarified of it to be given by someone to him...

So the process has started... Preet is definitely soaking as much information as her mind can and that is registered in her subconscious till a point where her denial shall end...

A pt wud come where she shall proclaim to have loved ishan and not rizwan ( only till the phase of denial)

She definitely has to go thru two cycles of realization

1. Ishan being rizwan
2. She loving rizwan and not ishan...


P.S. : this is the first time I have analyzed any epi of PKHJD... I usually refrain from posting anything that is loosely bonded... But for a change today I had a feeling ki jay has done some work so a big round of applause for the sketches 👏


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Posted: 10 years ago
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So will Preet be his guardian angel? Cause he gives the tabeez to her and we know Preet's life is entwined with Rizwaan's. Saving his life would mean she being alive..hain na?😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am the one who feel utmost disgust about SHERGILL'S APPROACH TOWARDS pREET- iSHAN relationship. Shergill and Preet shares a formal relationship, isn't it? So there is alimit between two individuals always which they never should cross while in conversation. Shergill is yet to become a friend to Preet to ask her whats her weakness and gives his judgement without an ounce of hesitation. that shows his lack of manners , and I do not like people being that mannerless just to put forth their point. in a formal, professional kind relationship, thre is no room for personal opinions about relationships of each other and thas a big rule to maintain professional ethics. Shergill breaches that each time with his constant reference to ISHAN AND HOW pREET feels for him. None of his business honestly. So in no way his words are justified.
about the loop closure of yesterday's scene and the depth opf relationship between Preet and Rizwan, the writers and even me do not need an wannabe, half hbaked character sketch like Shergill. Who na bhi hota toh bhi Rizreet ki scene ka koi na koi beautiful significant role reversal hota hi,to fullfill that Rizwan giving his shield to Preet. those two characters are very much flawed but very attentively portryaed. the depth of that taveez scene was very brilliantly depicted and written. So I guess the writers can come up with another sheer piece of brilliance of to close the loop minus involvement of a shallow character like Shergill. I cant be all mesmerised hearing Preet's dialogues on Shergill's stupid judgemental comments. 😆
sorry for my rant but I really find Shergill as a man of zero manners, ill groomed, narciist kind throwing his weight around. Obnoxious is the word for him and I would have liked to stay away from this kind of people who keeps on giving unnecessary remarks on my personal life on drop of a hat.When people forget their limit , they should be told to back off rather than being indulgent about it. No offence, just my pov.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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We are on different pages on this Jahnavi. So better I take a leave from this. All the best with the thread. 👍🏼
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@payal
Yet to read ur reply... But to be honest if anybody who is the unhappiest of all over shergill's character its me... 😆 so much that I even don't want to rant on it... I have given up on characterisation from the pt I had declared that I find it superficial 🥱

All am looking at are the scenes... Keeping jay's characterisation aside am happy only for one reason and that is he's somewhere trigerring the sparks between riz and preet..even today I focussed on sketches, preet and dialogues that's it... Jay is not that important then 😆 main Bas isme khush hu ki preet ek step aage badhi Wo kaise badhi that's not important as I have always said the show lacks detailing
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkeye

We are on different pages on this Jahnavi. So better I take a leave from this. All the best with the thread. 👍🏼


Your wish Payal...😊 but as I say am the unhappiest of all with jay's character and I maintain it till the end... 😆 the only imp things for me are Atleast now that story is progressing... I knew it long back that they are going to butcher it character wise... Preet ka bhi bahot loosely sketched h.. Its only that rizwan has some brownie pts character wise.. Jab female lead ko hi nahi choda how can one even expect the spy to be logical? 😆

I fully support ur ranting over jay.. But I won't rant as I know I already have given up on characters... And jo mila h let's c the positive of it that's always my approach... So jab tak jhel sakti hu I'll be here and the time am done I'll juz vanish 😆

Thank u for the wishes dear... 😊 I fully understand ur POV
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@jahnavi, I got your point about Preet 's emotions being explored and few things forecasting rizreet future. But isnt that already known to us? We all know by now that her bubble is going to burst, her life will be shatttered knowing Rizwan's truth, from there it will be her journey, her quest to find out whats important for her. It will be about her ultimate choice, her realisation , her soul searching to be at peace with her husband's reality. In that journey, shergill has no significant role to play, its way too personal kind of a journey as per me, so all these blabberings of shergill not even is going to work as trigger for her. I still dont see her doubting ishan for once so much so is her blind faith. Shergill will be hell annoying by his shallowness to make her doubtful and that makes me mad. I wish they would have given shergill a shrap, thoughtful yet smaet sketch than this obnoxious wanna be kind. He comes across as one looser kind a guy speaking rubbish about other peopke's marital life. So his words just cant be the trigger for anything in rizreet ki story. Thats pure ibsilt to these two protagonists. I liked how you said it will be preet who will help rizwan to identify his real self, so simailarly I want Rizwan himself being the sole reason for preet to see his true identity. Not shergill please. Thats what I tried to say expressing my disgust.

No point getting all touchy about fictional characters. So lets just move on dear.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkeye

I am the one who feel utmost disgust about SHERGILL'S APPROACH TOWARDS pREET- iSHAN relationship. Shergill and Preet shares a formal relationship, isn't it? So there is alimit between two individuals always which they never should cross while in conversation. Shergill is yet to become a friend to Preet to ask her whats her weakness and gives his judgement without an ounce of hesitation. that shows his lack of manners , and I do not like people being that mannerless just to put forth their point. in a formal, professional kind relationship, thre is no room for personal opinions about relationships of each other and thas a big rule to maintain professional ethics. Shergill breaches that each time with his constant reference to ISHAN AND HOW pREET feels for him. None of his business honestly. So in no way his words are justified.

about the loop closure of yesterday's scene and the depth opf relationship between Preet and Rizwan, the writers and even me do not need an wannabe, half hbaked character sketch like Shergill. Who na bhi hota toh bhi Rizreet ki scene ka koi na koi beautiful significant role reversal hota hi,to fullfill that Rizwan giving his shield to Preet. those two characters are very much flawed but very attentively portryaed. the depth of that taveez scene was very brilliantly depicted and written. So I guess the writers can come up with another sheer piece of brilliance of to close the loop minus involvement of a shallow character like Shergill. I cant be all mesmerised hearing Preet's dialogues on Shergill's stupid judgemental comments. 😆
sorry for my rant but I really find Shergill as a man of zero manners, ill groomed, narciist kind throwing his weight around. Obnoxious is the word for him and I would have liked to stay away from this kind of people who keeps on giving unnecessary remarks on my personal life on drop of a hat.When people forget their limit , they should be told to back off rather than being indulgent about it. No offence, just my pov.


I liked it Payal 😊 in fact thanx for the rant.. U have covered all my points...

I didn't like jay from the beginning.. I mean he doesn't even seem like a spy to me...

And the loop closure.. Well I have used a wrong word there.. Thanx for pointing that out... 😊 I juz wanted to applaud for the particular dialogue which came up after the handing out of the taveej to preet... Beautifully portrayed... ( only for preet, not jay )
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkeye

@jahnavi, I got your point about Preet 's emotions being explored and few things forecasting rizreet future. But isnt that already known to us? We all know by now that her bubble is going to burst, her life will be shatttered knowing Rizwan's truth, from there it will be her journey, her quest to find out whats important for her. It will be about her ultimate choice, her realisation , her soul searching to be at peace with her husband's reality. In that journey, shergill has no significant role to play, its way too personal kind of a journey as per me, so all these blabberings of shergill not even is going to work as trigger for her. I still dont see her doubting ishan for once so much so is her blind faith. Shergill will be hell annoying by his shallowness to make her doubtful and that makes me mad. I wish they would have given shergill a shrap, thoughtful yet smaet sketch than this obnoxious wanna be kind. He comes across as one looser kind a guy speaking rubbish about other peopke's marital life. So his words just cant be the trigger for anything in rizreet ki story. Thats pure ibsilt to these two protagonists. I liked how you said it will be preet who will help rizwan to identify his real self, so simailarly I want Rizwan himself being the sole reason for preet to see his true identity. Not shergill please. Thats what I tried to say expressing my disgust.

No point getting all touchy about fictional characters. So lets just move on dear.


Yaar apne chahne se kya hota hai? 😆 that's how the cv's want it I suppose isliye baar baar preet jay k scenes dikha rahe hai.. Even i don't want shergill to be the mediator or catalyst... But that's how they are showing.. And as I said its epi ANALYSIS and not our wish list... Toh analysis toh uska hi hoga jo dikhayege jaisa dikhayenge 😆

Its futile to go in characterisation... This show is a big let down in terms of characterisation atleadt for me... M hooked up only for the concept
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: daydreamers


I liked it Payal 😊 in fact thanx for the rant.. U have covered all my points...

I didn't like jay from the beginning.. I mean he doesn't even seem like a spy to me...

And the loop closure.. Well I have used a wrong word there.. Thanx for pointing that out... 😊 I juz wanted to applaud for the particular dialogue which came up after the handing out of the taveej to preet... Beautifully portrayed... ( only for preet, not jay )

that dialogue was surely well put but the situation was bit messy? Isnt it? ab aise angry rant ke liye thanks na kaho yaar. Its embrassoing. I so wanna hear your rant too. 😆 who is here like the professional actually? Does Rizwan look like a khatarnaak padosi mulk ka spy? SDoes Aatif look like a proper trained terrorist? kitna faltu waqt hai uske paas. Aur Sana ka profession kya hai batao? Baba ke call centre ka customer care executive I suppose, who keeps on calling Rizwan talking about latest offers?
I agree with you when you say the characterisation is superficial and execution is below average. It will harm the show for sure.

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