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Posted: 10 years ago
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SwaSan r already married with all rituals n its not d Indian culture to Break off marriages n a bhabhi getting married to her devar when her Husband is still ALive. Yucky 😡 So SwaSan Will be endgame for sure.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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swasan is endgame nd i want a new guy for ragz swalak are devar bhabhi nd dis serial is not an American show
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ipkrr

Swara said she did not love Laksh a 1000 times according to the serial and then melted during Laksh's confession to her. She does not take time to understand her feelings. She dons the mahaan avatar first. Her denial now does not hold weight as it did not earlier.

When you love someone you love them warts and all. Laksh is immature and his character has always been shown to jump the gun - but he's a great guy at heart. Does everything to fix the current situation because he cares for everyone. He and Swara are alike. I don't blame him one bit for the way he lashed out at Swara after the wedding. If someone had shown me a mms of my fiance saying she was running away from the wedding after a long line of events that seemed to suggest she was up to no good - i would have also turned away. Kudos to all the virtuous folks in the forum who would have still trusted their fiances. Not me - I don't like to take chances when common sense tells me I must have made a mistake. Nobody is thinking an elaborate game is at play in my wedding!
Laksh did not happily marry Ragini - he was roped into it due to brilliant maneuvering by Ragini and Sanskaar.
He lashed out at her because he was in pain - he'd loved her for so long.
Also I remember a dialogue where Laksh asks Shekar to forgive his father for talking about their wedding when Dida was in the hospital - he says sometimes when folks get to realize their mistake they want to set it right immediately. Laksh falls into that category - loves with all his heart reacts emotionally and this is usually the response you get from this kind of personality. Thats why the moment he found out about Ragini - he needed to talk to Swara. He was not desperate - just needed to address the situation immediately. Not everyone can be restrained like Sanskaar who calmly thinks and plans his every move - he is never hasty. Sanskaar and Ragini have similar personalities. End of the day Laksh and Sanskaar are both good people - what really should matter is who Swara loves. Just because someone trusts me does not mean I will need to love them - love is an attraction caused by many factors. Love does not come to the person who did all the right things or checked all the right boxes. Love simply is. Sanskaar could be perfect for Swara and do and say everything right - but in the end it's who makes her heat beat faster and who she feels for and that does not have to be the better person. For you Arhi lovers out there - Arnav never trusted Khushi until the end - so she should have gone off in a huff to someone else?
I like seeing Swara with Laksh - I like to think that their first love was true...and true love is rewarded in the end - even when faced with evil from Ragini, Dadi, Sanskaar, Sujata...and esp when its only a sham of a marriage that stands in the way. I hate to think Ragini and Sanskaar won with their vile plans and got their respective loves in the end via wrong means. If Sanskaar can be forgiven Laksh can be too. Sanksaar separated Swara and Laksh - and he is forgiven - he did not trust a cousin Laksh who loved him (remember Laksh committed to Ragini a second time even when he did not love her because he wanted to save Sanskaar, he was only thinking about the moment - thats his personality - and he loved Sanakaar) or his bada papa DP who was family. And why exactly is he a mahaan for trust. He is a prime example of someone who did not trust his loved ones and went on a path to destroy them - without even trying to find out the truth. He put the fact that his girlfriend died, only Laksh knew about it and the fact that his bada papa did not want him to marry a bengali and came up with bada papa and Laksh killed his girl friend - hows that for a trusting careful soul? And to take revenge he plans and succeeds in ruining Swara's image and splitting Swara and Laksh - but hey he can be forgiven but not Laksh. Kya logic?
For me - if it was a true marriage with agreement between both - then it needs to be honored. Sanskaar and Swara marriage was a sham - neither wanted it - for me that's not a marriage that needs to be held sacred - in fact they made a mockery of the institution by pretending to be married.. If you prefer Swara with Sanskaar - cool with me - does not matter a twit to me - it does not make me wrong and you right. Not everyone has to think the same way! We all don't fall in love with the same kinds of folks. Just keep your tone civil and don't degrade or mock opinions that differ from you. It says something about you not the one you are attacking. It's a forum to share views - not dictate them and ridicule everyone whose opinion differs from you.


@I will reply to ArHI lovers bit - yes. Khushi should have stopped being a wimp and gone to someone else that is if someone else was around. Never liked Khushi's character in the show for this simple reason. She was a pain in everybody's life and she got herself into whatever mess she created. So yes, had the creatives presented a better character in the show who could trust her and support her - I would have definitely wanted Khushi go with him. Atleast in real life you go with the one who is there with you in your pain and not your happiness alone.

Love is not the only ingredient needed to run a relationship - your heart beating faster is not the only reason to be with someone - and yes Love simply is. And you can easily fall in love just as easily you can fall out of love. Love simply is and I 100% agree. But if Swara really loved Lakshya - would she not be able to see his pain? OR see that he is not going to be happy? Okay even if I consider that Ragini is important for her and that is why she is blindsided - would she still not have a fleeting moment of concern for Lakshya. Let me guarantee you that she does not. She has stopped worrying about Lakshya like she used to before. She cares for him but she has fallen out of love.

Yes - Sanskaar was wrong and no one denies that. But if you can justify Lakshya being in pain and doing the things he did - so can it be justified for Sanskaar. Also Sanskaar is not the one who separated Lakshya and Swara - it is Ragini and Lakshya themselves. No matter what games are being played at my wedding - I think if I am that emotional as you claim Lakshya to be - I would not have jumped on to the wedding with my brother's brother. That is just downright ridiculous. There were other ways to solve the matter - but Lakshya had to jump into matrimony. He could have waited for Swara to come back - or atleast waited for a day or two - but nahin - he wanted to get married. Fine! I will still never understand why after umpteenth number of proofs given to you by Swara and Sanskaar - why did not Lakshya once try to find the truth on his own? What was stopping him to believe in the one he claims he cannot live without?

Btw, you can blame Sanskaar for all this mess all you want - but it was Lakshya who gave the opportunity to Ragini continuously to succeed. If he would have once stopped and wondered - WHAT IF - it would have been believable. But no.

Btw, Sanskaar was forgiven but he truly made up for his mistakes. He supported Swara (which he did not have to) because he is a better person. Also, swara has forgiven Lakshya - she just does not want to go back into his life. Simple. Why is it hard to accept? No matter how sham the marriage is supposed to be - marriage is marriage and in present - Swara and Sanskaar are both in it of their own free will. Sanskaar has done his redemption - Lakshya still has a long way to go. But now - Lakshya's actions are tarnishing Swara's image. You blame Sanskaar for Tarnishing Swara's image? Lakshya has done it constantly after the wedding - blaming her for being characterless , for living with a man without being married - and what not. And he still continues to do so - by being indecent and by showing up in her room in mid hours. How is that not tarnishing Swara's image? Why is he being Selfish now and not thinking of Swara's image?

If you say what Lakshya did was from pain - then what Sanskaar did was from pain too. Simple - Lakshya's love - swara was alive in front of him - he still had chance to rectify his mistakes and he did not - so his pain is far less compared to what Sanskaar must have gone through. Sanskaar did wrong but if we go by your logic then Sanskaar's actions are justified too - because he was in far greater pain because he saw the one he loved die in his arms.

And First love is not the end of the world. Love infact is not the end of the world. People fall in love all the time again and again and stay in marriages that have no love in it but trust, respect. This is not a love story. Swara has full right to chose a man who trusts her, respects her and loves her - whether she loves him not. Just because once upon a time she was in love with someone - she has to go back to him - that is sheer stupidity and nothing else.

Lakshya needs to let Swara chose. He needs to stop forcing himself and his love on her which is disgusting after a point of time, If she truly loved him ever - whenever Ragini's truth comes out - she will accept him. If she does not - then I guess most people will understand that a girl's NO is a NO.




Edited by --Anna-- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: medhasankar

Kya Baat hai yaar...

rags -ve.
So, lucky-swara fair game.

Brilliant logic.👏

I am going to call swara characterless myself if she gets back with Lucky.

Then she will:
a) have no sense of character, so characterless--choosing lucky jerky over Sanky(wow it rhymes😃)
b) be with her pyare Jeejaji.😳
c) be with a guy who line maroes on his own Bhabhi.😡

Honey you and me are watching different serials.
mine is called SWARAGINI..yours is called DENIAL😲



bang on yaar wat a reply am fan of ur fictions but ur replys are amazing too
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: 345678

SwaSan r already married with all rituals n its not d Indian culture to Break off marriages n a bhabhi getting married to her devar when her Husband is still ALive. Yucky 😡 So SwaSan Will be endgame for sure.



some people won't understand yaar they don't even know dat a NO means NO
wat can we say to these people
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--


You know you always have me in splits. 😆 😆

First of all Swaragini started in March 2015. Swaragini turned 6 months old in August and by then your favorite SwaLak were well separated. So please dont say the creatives showed SwaLak love story for almost a year because that is crap! The show did not even complete 6 months Swara and Lakshya were out of the picture. 😆 Ab bolo which 'almost' one year love story are we talking about?

You are right when you say the story is moving towards love winning over evil - it is not moving towards Swalak love - it is moving towards SwaSan love. 😉 And the show will give a wrong message if Swara accepts a man, like Upama said, changes color like a chameleon - who is married and does not know his boundaries and who has trust issues. Definitely Bhabhi and Devar are sending wrong message 🤢

@Bold : You are sadly mistaken. Getting delusional like Lakshya are we? Swara was looking at Ragini because she was worried for her (Do you even know Swara or not? Or Lakshya ki tarah bas SwaLak karna hai?) - Lakshya the creepo was looking at his bhabhi and bhai because he does not want them together. Delusional ki bhi hadd hoti hai! 😆

@TM : Lakshya and Swara get fair chance? Are you kidding me? Till Lakshya actually repents - he does not deserve any chance from Swara. He is turning into Ragini 2.0 and that is not a 'fair' chance. Ragini turning negative is going to ensure Ragya which is a mighty TRP booster because that is how we get SwaSan which again is a TRP booster. 😆



Hello Anna, good to see you here. I agree with you Lakshya is going Rags way and becoming an obsessive lover who wants the love at any cost. He is endangering his and Swara's reputation and Rags is going to take full advantage. Rags is on a mission to detroy Swara's image and get her position and image back in the house.
But she does not realise by doing so she is exposing herself to others who will surely think that she is faking memory loss.
I am enjoying this track where Ragini is decided to fight back and no one is aware of it. Hope Swara and Sanskaar find this out soon or else there is going to be a lot of heartbreak around.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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There are a few simple questions to ask here,
1) Does Laksh really love Swara?
Fine agree he was hurt and mislead and didnt trust her during that entire wedding video situation. Fine he had lost his ability to think and got scammed by Ragini (not Sanskar since Sanskar was fighting with him at the time to make him see the sense and not distrust Swara) into that marriage. It is a bit silly, but lets give him benefit of doubt that he didnt think of telling Ragini lets get married tomorrow, let me just recover from this etc etc. What happened next?

Well what happened next was Swara coming with that bandage, telling what really happened to her and being distrusted. You cannot see the person - that you love - in front of you in person begging you to see the truth and realise there must be something to what they are saying? You wouldn't even want to find out what was real - so that if there was a chance you could get back with them?

Forget all of that, what does he do - keeps on screaming to everyone that she is characterless. Fine he was hurt, wanted to lash back. Fine. But when he saw her broken down after these accusations, it didnt bother him? He was fine to see her tears and add more to them?

Then once the truth is out, he immediately wants to be back with her. Fine she forgave him, but there was no understanding that she is going to a tough time and might need some space to recover from all that passed? Or was it that he didnt trust their love to stand the test of time and wanted to rush in before she realised otherwise? If she was so sure of her love, why not have some patience? Why not give her a chance to recover?

So Swara denied Laksh a number of times in the past. Fine. But what could be her reasons in each case - may be that she didnt actually love him? may be she wasn't sure? May be she didnt want to pursue a relationship with him hurting her sister? May be she had actually moved on and doesnt love him today? The point is, irrespective of what may be the reason, it is not right to assume they aren't valid reason to her. It is wrong to assume that her denial should just be brushed aside and discounted. Laksh sadly does exactly that. He assumes that she loves him and is doing this to punish him - he has come up with this reason and isn't really sitting down with Swara to "ask" her? he is telling her this is the reason according to him and that her reason is BS so she should come back to him!

In love, it really hurts you to see the other person being sad or humiliated by anyone else. If nothing else, you would stand by them in public and talk to them in private about anything wrong they did. You wouldn't make a public spectacle of it. You would care atleast a bit about their wishes ...not brush them off to the side. I don't see Laksh doing that sadly. I don't doubt that he believes he is in love - but is that real love - nopes.



2) Does Swara love Laksh today?
Swara knows Laksh is hurting, but he is today probably at the bottom of her priority list in terms of caring about his feelings. For her Ragini comes first. And interestingly if we look at the past few days, with Sanskar's wishes now matter - but Laksh's just don't. Her behaviour shows tiredness in dealing with Laksh and an irritation.

She knows Laksh wants to get away from Ragini - but she is hell bent in creating situations where he will not only accept Ragini but love her.
Is this love? I don't think so.

She has forgiven him for mistrusting her and being drawn in by Ragini - but after all the humiliation and behaviour, she isn't keen to pursue any relationship with him. Is she wrong in feeling that? or can she not feel that?

of course she can. In fact most of us in normal real lives would feel the same way. So you loved someone. They didnt trust you because of some misunderstanding, they got married to your sister in the same mandap, they didnt trust you later on as well despite you pleading, humiliated you and now when the truth is out, all of a sudden want everything to be forgotten and for you to go back to them as if nothing went amiss? would you not think twice about the dependability of such as person and whether they can stand by you in tough times in life when they faltered in one go? Would you forget your self respect and put yourself at risk again to see if they come through for you this time or again let you fall?

There is a big difference in forgiving and forgetting. she may have forgiven him but i don't think she is someone who will forget what he put her through any time soon.

Whether Swara will every care/love Sanskar or whether Laksh will feel anything for Ragini is irrelevant. Even if Swara wasn't married to Sanskar, my opinion would not change here.

My intention is not to put anyone down. All the Swalak fan are of course entitled to their views. Only time will tell what comes to fruition.


Edited by foresight - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: 345678

SwaSan r already married with all rituals n its not d Indian culture to Break off marriages n a bhabhi getting married to her devar when her Husband is still ALive. Yucky 😡 So SwaSan Will be endgame for sure.



So forced marriages are Indian culture?


If swara and sanskar got divorced then she would no longer be his bhabi and sanskar wouldn't be her husband... So your bhabhi devar comment isn't a valid one
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Posted: 10 years ago
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thanks Anna and Foresight - both logical responses. I'm not denying that the way the show is progressing - it looks like the Cvs plan to have Swara and Sanskaar together. Swara does not show any sign of being in love with Laksh - she does sound irritated with him. That's what keeps the audience on their toes - the suspense.
I just happen to like Laksh characterization - I find him emotional,handsome, moved by the moment, quick to jump to conclusions - that are sometimes wrong and also very vulnerable. And that's me - so the wish to see the Swara Laksh pairing is personal to my likes and what I think I would like to watch. Will have to wait and see how the story goes.
Swara Sanskaar falling in love - and serial going on with other twists and turns is what you would see in any Indian serial - was hoping for something different. Like the Ragini turn - loved it - loved that they made a co-lead so negative - it will be interesting to see where they go with it. Similarly Swara Laksh is looking improbable - so that happening may make the serial more interesting and unpredictable for me.
For me it's not like Swara and Laksh - belong together - makes the most sense, are most compatible etc --- just that they are a pair that I enjoy watching - not a logical choice - a very personal preference one.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: CookieDough




So forced marriages are Indian culture?


If swara and sanskar got divorced then she would no longer be his bhabi and sanskar wouldn't be her husband... So your bhabhi devar comment isn't a valid one



arey dats the problem IF but swara didn't divorce cause of ragz cause she loves her sis nd if lucky truly loves her he should wait till the divorce not coming to her room midnight k swasan married in majboori but he married with his senses nd will na he should wait atleast till his divorce he is shadi shuda admi how can he enter a girl's room like dat is dat indian culture

yeh sab kyun a girl's NO is a NO he should understand dat us no mein kahin haan nahi chupi hain

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