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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tootiefrootie11


I'm glad you got the point i was making- i was a bit worried i hadn't put that well. Exactly- see they don't have to show OTT unnecessary scenes, they finish the whole thing between 20-27 episodes and I'm not saying we need to do that, if you have enough story, run for 500 epis even but when theres no story so they show the kids, the neighbours, the uncles and dogs and cats- what is the point?!

and they r so real from story to dialogues to make up dresses everything...
agree if there is story one can show a Soap for years but the fact is it is difficult to show it so why not end it on time? why not make seasons like english shows
there r sooo many shows which has no story but they r highest on TRP Charts
Gopi bahu wala Show
Balika vadhu i mean this show needs to end now
yeh rishta
diya and bhati how i wish these shows get axed so we can watch something new😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: iqbalslover

and they r so real from story to dialogues to make up dresses everything...

agree if there is story one can show a Soap for years but the fact is it is difficult to show it so why not end it on time? why not make seasons like english shows
there r sooo many shows which has no story but they r highest on TRP Charts
Gopi bahu wala Show
Balika vadhu i mean this show needs to end now
yeh rishta
diya and bhati how i wish these shows get axed so we can watch something new😆



Words from my mouth 👏😆
That day will mark history if these shows manage to get axed before turning our hair grey!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Completely agree with u!bt still watching this shw for sanky n swara there is smething abt them that i always end up watching it n if i will continue watching it if it bcomes a trash?NO i never watch any imdian show for more than 4-5 months its been a month or two i started watching this n im sure soon i will say tata bye bye too!
And ppl love watching d crap evn hw jnfairly women are treated oh yes my grandma n mom who sit n watch saathiya frm day1 or so still watches it everyday n love gobi so much bt nwadays there is dis daughter of gopi who is no nonesense girl jus do what she like?wear what she likes n kinda bindass todays girl n my maa n daadi are like this shw has lost that charm kya kya dikhati hai-.- !as far as indian audience doesnt change channels cant do anything after its d trp that runs their channel they are nt doing sme social service that they will run d shws with low trp too!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fia21



Words from my mouth 👏😆
That day will mark history if these shows manage to get axed before turning our hair grey!

😆but looks like we have to wait till our budhaapa
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: fia21



Pakistani shows are quite sensible in terms of their stories which makes it so much more enjoyable to watch. Not to mention they shoot fixed episodes and the entire plot gets covered without having to drag it. I used to watch a lot of TV before but since a few years I hardly find the time to follow any show regularly. Swaragini just sort of happened to me .

Your take on the show is so similar to mine, I feel as if I'm talking to myself 😆

@Bold: OMG seriously I keep wondering the same thing. Why must they waste time on mundane things like expressions of non-existent characters really boggles me.

I agree with you on basically everything. You've penned out your opinions and thoughts perfectly and that's exactly how I feel. Yes the instant spark with some characters is what initially draws us to a show, but sooner or later that spark will burn out. Then what is left of a story? I am yet to come across a show that has kept me hooked till the end after the initial romance dies out. Sadly, that hasn't happened.

Couple swapping was possibly the best thing they could have done with this show. Laskhya and Swara had no chemistry at all. Like you even I had the general idea in my periphery that Sanskar might get redeemed and end up with Swara somehow. It was a happy surprise for me when that actually happened.

Now if only the show could provide me with some much need relief of doing something incredibly bad and well deserved to Ragini. Now that would just make my day. I am so sick and bored of watching negative characters getting away with anything and everything they do.

Just came across your post by the way. Bang on 👍🏼


We are obviously kindred spirits 😳🤗. Its weird how we both fell to watching the same way and the same stuff has attracted us! Oh God- I so hope they will show an end to this Nagini nonsense soon and not drag. At the moment i love that its fast paced as i can't stand stuff going on and on despite it being shown to characters who were previously shown intelligent that its a no brainer! Is the message- be evil and triumph?! 😕 Mind you here they first need to build up SwaSan and then we may see some Nagin revelation. My gut feel is that when she is exposed finally she will be shown repentant and everyone will turn against her but Swara and Shomi will actually be mahaan and help her? Then there will be a redemption track and there will be an attempt to reconcile SwarYa which won't happen as Swara will firmly be in love with Sanskaar by then. Let's see!
@bold- thank you so much! Hopefully we will chat again soon 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -PhoenixD-

Completely agree with u!bt still watching this shw for sanky n swara there is smething abt them that i always end up watching it n if i will continue watching it if it bcomes a trash?NO i never watch any imdian show for more than 4-5 months its been a month or two i started watching this n im sure soon i will say tata bye bye too!
And ppl love watching d crap evn hw jnfairly women are treated oh yes my grandma n mom who sit n watch saathiya frm day1 or so still watches it everyday n love gobi so much bt nwadays there is dis daughter of gopi who is no nonesense girl jus do what she like?wear what she likes n kinda bindass todays girl n my maa n daadi are like this shw has lost that charm kya kya dikhati hai-.- !as far as indian audience doesnt change channels cant do anything after its d trp that runs their channel they are nt doing sme social service that they will run d shws with low trp too!



Yes I guess the TRP audience has different mind sets than us. I wish the TRP system didn't exit. It would be so much better if shows would run for a limited number of episodes where they play out the story without dragging it so much that the initial concept loses it's essence.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tootiefrootie11


We are obviously kindred spirits 😳🤗. Its weird how we both fell to watching the same way and the same stuff has attracted us! Oh God- I so hope they will show an end to this Nagini nonsense soon and not drag. At the moment i love that its fast paced as i can't stand stuff going on and on despite it being shown to characters who were previously shown intelligent that its a no brainer! Is the message- be evil and triumph?! 😕 Mind you here they first need to build up SwaSan and then we may see some Nagin revelation. My gut feel is that when she is exposed finally she will be shown repentant and everyone will turn against her but Swara and Shomi will actually be mahaan and help her? Then there will be a redemption track and there will be an attempt to reconcile SwarYa which won't happen as Swara will firmly be in love with Sanskaar by then. Let's see!
@bold- thank you so much! Hopefully we will chat again soon 😊



Definitely 😳🤗 . I don't see Ragini's end coming anywhere soon. That's the problem with Indian shows. Characters like Ragini stay till the end and continue being massive pains in the butt 😕

@Bold: Oh God I am hoping against hope that THAT does not happen. But I so agree with your prediction. I'm sure this is exactly how the future story will shape up. This is basically what I mentioned in my post. The makers are victimizing Ragini so much, showing as if the heinous crimes she committed were no big deal. There is no possible redemption in the world for all that she's done. Swara and her mother's mahaanta makes me want to break the TV sometimes. If they do this, I am going to be seriously pissed.

Looking forward to it. I left a comment on your post 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hello dear 😊


Interesting post and good analysis!

Well, personally, I don't even like romances 😆 It's not often that a couple catches my attention - mostly, I like the characters individually. When Swaragini started, I liked the pacing of the story and Swara's character was promising, though I stopped watching regularly in-between, I think around the time of SwarYa? Though, Sanskar had me hooked- he is a multi-layered character with his flaws and edges which I just love. That's the main problem I have with how Swara's character has shaped up (and many other female leads in Indian shows do): Showing her mahaanta, they are actually trying to make her perfect. Someone who forgives and forgets and thinks about everyone else before herself - but this forced perfectness is a flaw which is hard to digest.

Though, Swara is not as worse off as many other female leads - but she is coming very close. Combine this with Ragini's negativity winning all the time and the unbelieveable stupidity of the Maheshwari family, I couldn't take it, anymore. Firday's episode and today's were the first episodes I watched after quite some time - and only for Varun's outstanding performance. Today, especially, I just re-discovered why I adore Sankar so much!

I do love SwaSan, their chemistry is amazing (although, more than their romance, I enjoy their bonding on human and emotional level), but they are not my sole reason to watch this show. Sanskar is, right now, actually. But will he be able to keep me hooked till the end? I don't know. It all depends on how they are going to develope the storyline further; what other tracks they have in store and how they are going to wrap up the current plotline. I really wish that after exposing Ragini, Swara would just realize that Shekhar is not worth it and that she has come this far in life without him already, she doesn't need him, support her mother in separating from this spineless man, bid the Maheshwaris Goodbye for good and take Sanskar with her as the guy deserves a lot better than this family. Hah, dreams.

I'd like to add (well, you did mention it, in a way) another point which bothers me in Indian shows: The excessive focus on females. Women empowerment is nice and all but I can't see it to such an extent, anymore. The female lead is almost always right, she discovers all the secrets and hidden agendas, men are decorations with the main purpose to look good etc... I think in their passion of making women equal to men, many shows went far ahead creating unequality in the sense of portraying the men 'lower' (intellectually, capably) than females. And then, making the female lead perfect and mahaan - which makes viewers like me dislike her. Mary Sues, they are called in the world of books.

On another note, if we look at the Bestseller lists (as an example) and compare them with trp ratings of shows, people do seem to love certain things repeated again and again, especially romance (love triangles, e.g.)- well, mainstream, huh. I've never liked much what is on those lists, mostly the same, boring content recycled with another setting, some things added and still... And romance is just in, nowadays. Such things are not only a problem in Indian shows, it seems.

Will it change in the upcoming year? Somehow, I doubt it 😛
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amina-Zahra

Hello dear 😊



Interesting post and good analysis!

Well, personally, I don't even like romances 😆 It's not often that a couple catches my attention - mostly, I like the characters individually. When Swaragini started, I liked the pacing of the story and Swara's character was promising, though I stopped watching regularly in-between, I think around the time of SwarYa? Though, Sanskar had me hooked- he is a multi-layered character with his flaws and edges which I just love. That's the main problem I have with how Swara's character has shaped up (and many other female leads in Indian shows do): Showing her mahaanta, they are actually trying to make her perfect. Someone who forgives and forgets and thinks about everyone else before herself - but this forced perfectness is a flaw which is hard to digest.

Though, Swara is not as worse off as many other female leads - but she is coming very close. Combine this with Ragini's negativity winning all the time and the unbelieveable stupidity of the Maheshwari family, I couldn't take it, anymore. Firday's episode and today's were the first episodes I watched after quite some time - and only for Varun's outstanding performance. Today, especially, I just re-discovered why I adore Sankar so much!

I do love SwaSan, their chemistry is amazing (although, more than their romance, I enjoy their bonding on human and emotional level), but they are not my sole reason to watch this show. Sanskar is, right now, actually. But will he be able to keep me hooked till the end? I don't know. It all depends on how they are going to develope the storyline further; what other tracks they have in store and how they are going to wrap up the current plotline. I really wish that after exposing Ragini, Swara would just realize that Shekhar is not worth it and that she has come this far in life without him already, she doesn't need him, support her mother in separating from this spineless man, bid the Maheshwaris Goodbye for good and take Sanskar with her as the guy deserves a lot better than this family. Hah, dreams.

I'd like to add (well, you did mention it, in a way) another point which bothers me in Indian shows: The excessive focus on females. Women empowerment is nice and all but I can't see it to such an extent, anymore. The female lead is almost always right, she discovers all the secrets and hidden agendas, men are decorations with the main purpose to look good etc... I think in their passion of making women equal to men, many shows went far ahead creating unequality in the sense of portraying the men 'lower' (intellectually, capably) than females. And then, making the female lead perfect and mahaan - which makes viewers like me dislike her. Mary Sues, they are called in the world of books.

On another note, if we look at the Bestseller lists (as an example) and compare them with trp ratings of shows, people do seem to love certain things repeated again and again, especially romance (love triangles, e.g.)- well, mainstream, huh. I've never liked much what is on those lists, mostly the same, boring content recycled with another setting, some things added and still... And romance is just in, nowadays. Such things are not only a problem in Indian shows, it seems.

Will it change in the upcoming year? Somehow, I doubt it 😛



Thank you 😳

My thoughts exactly. This picture of perfection that are the female leads of Indian shows are so vastly opposite to what women empowerment should be portrayed like that it completely detaches you from the character itself. And after a while, even a good romance starts to grate on your nerves because the girl will go back to being the completely unrealistic model of perfection in the rest of the story that it feels as if we are watching two different shows at once. One where the girl is a practically dripping with innocence and is a mahaanta ki murti who can do absolutely no wrong, and the other where she's romancing a guy with all the experience in the world like she was born for that job only 😆

I am starting to discover that Sanskar might be the only watchable character currently on this show. He's the only sane person around with a sound mind and knows what the hell he wants and has the courage to stand by it. Everybody else is acting like they are Ragini's puppets and she's pulling their strings. Exactly what miracle has she performed that every single person in the house trusts her so much? It completely baffles me how easily they all just assume that Ragini can never do anything wrong.

I am with you on that. I wish Swara and her mother kick Shekhar out of their lives for good instead of accepting that spineless coward when he comes begging for forgiveness after Ragini's truth comes out (which sadly is more likely to happen) . It will be refreshing to see atleast one show that does not follow the typical television norm and stereotype of a wife forgiving her husband for being an utter douchebag and getting away with all the torture he put her through just because she's apparently supposed to do that.

@Bold: Completely agree 👍🏼

So far I'm enjoying Swara and Sanskar together. But let's see it that alone is strong enough to turn me into a regular viewer. I doubt it though, since I have the tendency to get bored pretty easily, good romance or not 😆

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