I am not liking Rajeev Khandelwal - Page 3

Originally posted by: flipfl0p

Interesting replies girls. Will reply to all later. I realised while reading some other thread, that some people are hurt (my post indirectly saying people not having sense of judgement). If you people are hurt, then I am sorry. I did not imply that. It was a hint of appreciation for Rajeev's acting power. Thanks @jasw, for taking words in the right sense.

I just felt, the atmosphere in forum was tilted slightly more towards Kabir than Shreya (as I did not see many sympathising with Shreya). Do that make me love Shreya? No. In fact, I want CVs to show something wrong from her side too (not just Kabir's words) as witnessing it ourselves will have more effect than heresay.

I agree with people and their views changing with time. I myself have changed a lot over the years and my sense of judging people too. Stil (may be because of my age), I have reservations as well. I can be open and prejudiced simultaneously (not minding live in relationships, but minding ONS), which looks contradictory. I suppose, we all have such contradictions.

Having said all these, I still believe there is a little bit contribution from Rajeev's part too. Istill hold him guilty of charge. 😆Sorry girls, if I hurt you again.🤗

Originally posted by: Baki

I agree with most of what you say. But Rajeev is just and actor. who portrays that character of Kabir. It's the directors of the show, who shapes the characters.

Originally posted by: idonkno

An interesting take for sure. I would like to copy one of replies that I have posted in another thread (just because I am out of time currently and I do not wish to leave without sharing my point of view). It may not be a direct reply to your post but it definitively serves my purpose of explaining that we are kinda over-reacting to the piece of information that was thrown at us by the CVsby labeling it as either 'right' or 'wrong'.

I don't understand the concept of right or wrong. Does it really exist? If there was a right and wrong, wouldn't we all agree on it and not have various opinions on the matter? We humans are the one who constructed 'right' and 'wrong' and are now conveniently using it in order to survive in the society. We are led by our 'moral beliefs' and not by the concept of 'right' or 'wrong'. We all stand firm on our beliefs until life teaches us to look at the broader picture.

Now coming to the point why I started talking about morality because when discussing infidelity, we use the language of moral condemnation. And it isn't only the act that's reprehensible; the actor, too, is judged by the strictest standards. Adultery becomes a moral failing as we move to a description of character flaws: liar, cheater, philanderer, womanizer, and s**t. This is the existing norm in the society and this is certainly how I look into this matter as well (I have no regrets in accepting this fact).

In the above view understanding act of infidelity as a simple transgression or meaningless fling, or a quest for aliveness is nearly impossible but I know that there are people (though a handful) who see it with this perspective because they have morally evolved with the experience life has thrown at them.

I respect both the opinions and thus would refrain myself in judging Kabir's act and would like to request all the other forum members to do the same - just accept this information irrespective of the fact whether you think it is justified or not because frankly we cannot judge his actions until we face a similar situation. If people say with certainty that they would never do such a thing that he did even if placed in the same external stimulus like him then I would like to point out that there is no guarantee (because decisions/thoughts/actions are governed by our emotions and our emotions are governed by the external stimulus and thus just by thinking about that stimuli and without experiencing it we can not be certain of our thoughts/actions/decisions)

I am using a very simple example to present how external stimulus play an important role. Like you said in one of your replies that you believe the things that are not right are wrong. As far as I know to most people 'Lying'(irrespective whether its consequence will be petty or big) is not right (i.e. it is wrong) and in this case we should never lie, right? But, still we are sometimes compelled to lie (sometimes even unwillingly) because of the external stimulus(but that does not change the fact that we need to take the responsibility of our actions and should not blame the circumstances for it in any way - and Kabir Sharma did that!)

Originally posted by: -purnima-

No need to b sorry, at least from my side can understand ur dislike have been for character Kabir ...technically dat shud have been title...
as for you not liking Rajeev proves, that he has been more than convincing in portraying Kabir...its an appreciation of actor Rajeev khandelwal... & a compliment for him as an actor that he made you sit back & notice him...dislike him as a character inspite of being a hero...dats why I had mentioned that I am glad you disliked Kabir...he isn't a character who is picture perfect & goody two shoes... But a character who is human, makes mistakes & learns from them...he is not perfect like other daily soaps good betas, but he is more heroic than characters who end up marrying multiple times & still have fans going ga ga over...

Indeed agree with you majority in forum you will find siding with Kabir, even i am one of them...but its not just because kabir is played by Rajeev (though as a fangirl there is no bigger reason than that) ...what makes us side Kabir is his honesty, sincerity, him being man enough to owe up his mistakes ...if he wanted he cud have easily hidden about ONS from Shreya in past & now from Ananya too...though mistake itself is issue of different debate !

& yes, as for Rajeev selling hand fan as hair drier, he with not sell in first place as he knows when he goes wrong, his fangirls will b first to pull him down...

There is nothing wrong if he sells apples as oranges. That's what proves the efficiency of the actor. For a moment at least, we empathised with Amir Khan in Fanaa, though he was a terrorist. It is easy to sell ideal characters. But it is a challenge to sell negative characters.

Originally posted by: flipfl0p

Ha ha! Good analogy for right and wrong. You beat me there (though degree between a white lie and infedility is large).

Originally posted by: sur_sc

Well though i love the way Shreay is being potrayed in the serial, I would like to give CVs the credit of making this as real... by real what I really mean is that no one is black or white. or to put it in a better light koi dhood ka dhula nahi hai. Every character has their =Ve and yes negatices... no sati savitiri here. or for that matter a man that cannot make any mistakess.I have forever hated serials that showed heroes as larger than life... the invincible. They would be ideal fathers, ideal son and yes even ideal husbands, despite having multiple marriages.

iI dnt want to qoute any particular serial but guess you will get my hint.

😆 I understand. I also did not expect an "ideal" male lead.

Now I would also like to clear the fact that I am not defending Kabir but we cant deny that things like these do happen... dont they? and in real life to we deal with these stuff ...

Coming back to my original point, I think the CVs are doing an intelligent job of showing how shrewd and manipulative Shreya is and I think with time they would reveal the other layers of her character too, which would give a better indication of whose side to go with

While this may answer all the questions that you would have raised what i loved about the serial's script was how they showed 2 completely diff point of views for the desperation which is what usually happens in real life.

PS: If you would notice, you would know that Kabir Sharma is not too proud of his past deeds. He has forever carried the guild, the hurt, the anger has always been apparent and that in the first place was responsible for him to not accepting his love for Ananya, Aso in this age, almost everyone has a baggage/past, agreed not all have that complicated one but in real life it is usually more twisted than this and yet we still have love around!

Somehow, I never saw any regret or guilt when he confronted Shreya, it was only anger and hatred. Agreed she pushed him. But if he can express anger over her actions, he could have shown being guilty too. But he kind of justified it by saying, our relation was already over by then. May be the scandal after his confession has taken out the guilt and only filled him with hatred. He showed his regret only in front of Ananya.