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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


If it was lack of choice, she should have shown less apnapan while she hugged him...
Instead she allowed him all freedom- encouraged him more and more...Agreed she thought this was her husband...which is why Ahil asked her over and over to RETHINK- CONNECT THE THINGS THAT WERE ONLY TOO CLEAR...To an extent, Sanam is at fault here...and more than the fact that she allowed Shaad to touch her, what irks Ahil is the fact that she turned a blind eye to things that were only too obvious.

It is not Shaad's fault that Sanam lost her memory. He took advantage of her- BECAUSE SHE LET HIM. She turned deaf to her INTUITION.

There is no point arguing this...we all know how stupid this whole premise was...the intention was to make no one look at fault...it was a pathetic storyline and bad execution too...

Let us not look back. If Sanam wants to, we will look back with her.😉


"It is not Shaad's fault that Sanam lost her memory. He took advantage of her- BECAUSE SHE LET HIM. She turned deaf to her INTUITION."

This is quite a statement and I must admit one I would have never expected from you...

I think we all get the fact that Sanam's character was reset to that of an airhead who can't put two and two together and figure out Shaads lie for exactly this reason...
And mind you at the initial crucial days when she questioned her BFs and dejavus about her past, her parents, her feeling that her husband is in danger etc...Shaad kept on feeding lie after lie and actively discouraging her until it became a burden for her to even share her dejavu feelings with him frankly...

She didn't just turn a deaf ear to her intuition, but she simply was shown not to even use her own brains...
But one thing that does not change is the fact that being dimwitted does not take make Sanam ANY LESS a victim of Shaad manipulations and exploitation just as her being dimwitted does not make Shaad any less a sociopathic criminal...

This is exactly why delusional criminals like Shaad get away with such disgusting behavior with both physically and mentally challenged girls more often than the average girl.

But I agree 100% that there is no use in arguing this any further...I think except for me maybe most who consider Shaad a sociopath despite Sanam being an airhead will be too willing to let all this remain in the past...but cvs still insist on keeping Sanam a prisoner of that past lie which is STILL shaping the present and near future.

Anyways, I'm done with this, just was a bit blind sighted seeing this from you as I have seen numerous times you yourselves talking about how wrong it is to play with a woman's honor with regards to Shaad and how wrong is for him to keep couping her face, holding her hands, drawing hearts on her hand, announcing their walima and parading her as his wife in front of family and society back even in Pakistan...
I don't see anything has changed with regards to what Sanam is led to believe by Shaad the one person she trusts now and holds on to as security as you yourselves has said countless times.

Oh and btw, I don't belive Sanam has anything to be ashamed of under the circumstances except for her rude behavior and hypocrisy with Ahil...
What Ahil is doing to her is far worse in my eyes and I have always maintained that...and my mind has not changed...
Its a different thing that we all ignore certain things regarding the story line because that's how it is presented and we can't do anything about it if we are to keep watching or following the story...

But that does not mean our POV has changed as long the the situation and the execution remains the same, at least not for me..
And the same goes for Sahil forgiving each other or Shaad for all that has happened...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Let's all blame a woman's lack of intuition each time she gets raped or molested by someone she knows.
Please, do you realize what you are saying, soup?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SheAish


"It is not Shaad's fault that Sanam lost her memory. He took advantage of her- BECAUSE SHE LET HIM. She turned deaf to her INTUITION."

This is quite a statement and I must admit one I would have never expected from you...

I think we all get the fact that Sanam's character was reset to that of an airhead who can't put two and two together and figure out Shaads lie for exactly this reason...
And mind you at the initial crucial days when she questioned her BFs and dejavus about her past, her parents, her feeling that her husband is in danger etc...Shaad kept on feeding lie after lie and actively discouraging her until it became a burden for her to even share her dejavu feelings with him frankly...

She didn't just turn a deaf ear to her intuition, but she simply was shown not to even use her own brains...
But one thing that does not change is the fact that being dimwitted does not take make Sanam ANY LESS a victim of Shaad manipulations and exploitation just as her being dimwitted does not make Shaad any less a sociopathic criminal...

This is exactly why delusional criminals like Shaad get away with such disgusting behavior with both physically and mentally challenged girls more often than the average girl.

But I agree 100% that there is no use in arguing this any further...I think except for me maybe most who consider Shaad a sociopath despite Sanam being an airhead will be too willing to let all this remain in the past...but cvs still insist on keeping Sanam a prisoner of that past lie which is STILL shaping the present and near future.

Anyways, I'm done with this, just was a bit blind sighted seeing this from you as I have seen numerous times you yourselves talking about how wrong it is to play with a woman's honor with regards to Shaad and how wrong is for him to keep couping her face, holding her hands, drawing hearts on her hand, announcing their walima and parading her as his wife in front of family and society back even in Pakistan...
I don't see anything has changed with regards to what Sanam is led to believe by Shaad the one person she trusts now and holds on to as security as you yourselves has said countless times.

Oh and btw, I don't belive Sanam has anything to be ashamed of under the circumstances except for her rude behavior and hypocrisy with Ahil...
What Ahil is doing to her is far worse in my eyes and I have always maintained that...and my mind has not changed...
Its a different thing that we all ignore certain things regarding the story line because that's how it is presented and we can't do anything about it if we are to keep watching or following the story...

But that does not mean our POV has changed as long the the situation and the execution remains the same, at least not for me..
And the same goes for Sahil forgiving each other or Shaad for all that has happened...

SA...Awesome.
Shad is definitely a delusional criminal sociopath for me.
If they plan to bleach him, MAKE him stop TOUCHING Sanam atleast now.
Yes, I do work sometimes for a battered woman home. Mostly try to pep them up with motivational talks. And what always stands out in such scenarios is that most of them do not even know or are able to draw a line on how and what abuse is...
Also some of them are really airhead and sort of vacant like Jannat was/is!
btw I agree with every single word of yours.
Sanam being mentally incapable does not mean Shad should take advantage of this!
Also Sanam will definitely berate herself for putting Aahil through this torture... but will Aahil berate himself for not being able to protect her honor as promised to Allah in the marriage vows? Nope!
What if it was Aahil's innocent daughter who was being conned by someone sly.. does that mean he would tell his daughter, - hey you should have been more intuitive. You should not have hugged that stranger in dark.. He took your advantage coz you let him- Eh Soup??
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Even though if its all about SaHil and someone needs to be bleached...can't cvs do the bleaching a bit better way! I mean see That Army man now knows the truth can't he get his hands off from the memory loss woman! Even after getting yellow wash yesterday, he keeps on touching Jannat then what is the meaning of bleaching! At least Shaad should maintain distance from Jannat! And We cannot expect anything from Aahil in this case...he will be always weaken infront of Shaad! And thats the fact!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheImbecile

Yes i did disagree with that comment or I was unclear of what chiksoup said there.

KK - Shaad has never raped or molested Jannat. I think that's an extreme perspective to take.
Yes, Jannat doesn't know she is his wife, but she has overlooked her situation as well. So has Shaad but he probably thought she was not someone's wife as well.

And he has always been more focused on finding SK.

Execution was never correct in season 3, but personally don't care about Shaad.

I understand your indignation with Shaad, it makes sense, but we all know what the writers intended, their execution on the matter was of mass disappointment.

I've become wholly indifferent to Shaad at this point. First there was excitement, then there was disappointment, then increased disappointment, a lot of anger, and from the past couple of weeks, pure indifference.

I think we all knew the confrontation wasn't going to happen even before the promos, even if it was nice to think about. But Aahil didn't confront his own mother, the person he worshiped the ground that she walked on, what's he going to do with Shaad that lied to his wife about being her husband.

I am so over this show living up to any of myy expectations or logic or what I think is right to portray on television because it never will.

KK & minnie if you want something like that - I highly recommend Reporters. Because QH is not going to give you any sort of reprieve.

For me, Junooni SaHil is just a bad habit I can't kick.

Sorry to jump into the conversation😆 but I just wanna say we really can't expect Jannat to look carefully into the situation! Cause she has been fed with too many lies that I feel its too late for her to think properly! She is sick woman anyways! Though I agree Jannat character was poorly executed during pak track but still I can't expect much from her as she has been eaten quite lot lies. If only Shaad...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheImbecile

Yes i did disagree with that comment or I was unclear of what chiksoup said there.

KK - Shaad has never raped or molested Jannat. I think that's an extreme perspective to take.
Yes, Jannat doesn't know she is his wife, but she has overlooked her situation as well. So has Shaad but he probably thought she was not someone's wife as well.

And he has always been more focused on finding SK.

Execution was never correct in season 3, but personally don't care about Shaad.

I understand your indignation with Shaad, it makes sense, but we all know what the writers intended, their execution on the matter was of mass disappointment.

I've become wholly indifferent to Shaad at this point. First there was excitement, then there was disappointment, then increased disappointment, a lot of anger, and from the past couple of weeks, pure indifference.

I think we all knew the confrontation wasn't going to happen even before the promos, even if it was nice to think about. But Aahil didn't confront his own mother, the person he worshiped the ground that she walked on, what's he going to do with Shaad that lied to his wife about being her husband.

I am so over this show living up to any of myy expectations or logic or what I think is right to portray on television because it never will.

KK & minnie if you want something like that - I highly recommend Reporters. Because QH is not going to give you any sort of reprieve.

For me, Junooni SaHil is just a bad habit I can't kick.

on the underline...
so would you think it is OK to con and keep someone captive through emotional manipulations if you do not go the ultimate down and dirty route. if not a husband, why think that she can't have a family too... parents, siblings, friends, looking for her? What Shad did with her was molestation and it continues. Coz Sanam in her non-memory loss state would never touch Shad or allow him to touch her in those ways... rubbing her arms, caressing her face, hands, hair, hugging her tight, is molestation according to me.
the yardstick is to do only that much will Sanam in her full memory state will allow. And that is nothing.
Just saw Naffs comment. Yes Sanam is in no position to make life changing decisions and shouldn't be expected to!
Below KK has said what I am trying to explain in a much better way.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheImbecile

Yes i did disagree with that comment or I was unclear of what chiksoup said there.

KK - Shaad has never raped or molested Jannat. I think that's an extreme perspective to take.
Yes, Jannat doesn't know she is his wife, but she has overlooked her situation as well. So has Shaad but he probably thought she was not someone's wife as well.

And he has always been more focused on finding SK.

Execution was never correct in season 3, but personally don't care about Shaad.

I understand your indignation with Shaad, it makes sense, but we all know what the writers intended, their execution on the matter was of mass disappointment.

I've become wholly indifferent to Shaad at this point. First there was excitement, then there was disappointment, then increased disappointment, a lot of anger, and from the past couple of weeks, pure indifference.

I think we all knew the confrontation wasn't going to happen even before the promos, even if it was nice to think about. But Aahil didn't confront his own mother, the person he worshiped the ground that she walked on, what's he going to do with Shaad that lied to his wife about being her husband.

I am so over this show living up to any of myy expectations or logic or what I think is right to portray on television because it never will.

KK & minnie if you want something like that - I highly recommend Reporters. Because QH is not going to give you any sort of reprieve.

For me, Junooni SaHil is just a bad habit I can't kick.


I never said he raped or molested. I did say this once before though.


And what he's doing--treating her as some doll and that too a woman who's akin to a woman who's out of her senses--is no small matter. He's taking all kinds of liberties, constantly and consistently lying to her, and behaving in ways that she is only allowing him to do so because she thinks he's her husband.

Even if he were not taking liberties with her physically and lying to her about being her husband, any man going around keeping a woman like a doll as he's doing--society deems those actions as those of either depraved or mentally imbalanced persons.

Add to that, he is lying to her, going on with this lie and having no qualms or problems in continuing to act as her husband. He has no thought process or worry or acknowledgement of his actions. He acts as though he really is her husband.

What Shaad is doing to Sanam is akin to a man coming across/finding a roofied woman and taking advantage of it/her. (What those drugs do is not always knock someone out, they have other effects which cause one to behave differently--and then afterwards have no recollection) Taking advantage doesn't only include sexual intercourse. Not everything is about sex, a woman can still be violated and feel violated even if there is no sex. And not only that, a man who wants to keep a woman in his life as his creation, some doll--even if it's completely asexual--it is still a gross violation, kidnapping and much more and worse.

And here, he is behaving and taking liberties with for which she has not given any consent for. She is doing so because of her state of being and due to his lie and con (and continued lies and cons and lack of clarification).
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