Bombay velvet unlikely to even hit 25 cr

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bombat Velvet Crashes Further On Monday
Tuesday 19 May 2015 11.00 IST
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Bombay Velvet crashed further on Monday with business of 2 crore nett apprx and a 60% plus fall from Tuesday.. The first four day business of Bombay Velvet is as follows.

Friday - 5,25,00,000
Saturday - 5,35,00,000
Sunday - 5,70,00,000
Monday - 2,00,00,000 apprx

TOTAL - 18,30,00,000

The film will gross around 22.50 crore nett in week one and lifetime business is unlikely to even hit 25 crore nett.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Damn!!!I thought it would do atleast 40cr lifetime but everyday it ia hitting a new low. Biggest flop in history!!
Posted: 10 years ago
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It won't cross 20 crore mark..Biggest Flop ever
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Posted: 10 years ago
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aah i thought it will hit 30cr atleast
so the lifetime of BV=1st day(non holiday ramadan)of KICK and the budget of kick was around 30-35 cr less

#epicFail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Its lifetime wont even cross HNY's first opening day also now.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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"Waiter, 100 Crores Worth Of Bullshit, Please."

So you saw Bombay Velvet. You didn't like it. Hey, I haven't even seen it here in London, and I don't like it either.

I don't want to like it. I never want to like an Anurag Kashyap film. It's terribly inconvenient. The guy's a f**king menace. He's a walking Nike commercial. He just does it. He makes impossible' seem like a Rugby joke. He makes everything I want to do and achieve in movies seem like a beginning, at best.

But let's come back to Bombay Velvet. A man makes a movie. It's a lavish movie of epic proportions, an epic vision and a hyper-epic effort. It has a big budget. It has a big star. It's meant to take you on the ride of your life, entertain the pants off you, blow your socks off.

It didn't. Not for most people.

So? You crib. You appreciate some things, hate other bits, maybe tell your friends not to watch it. Fair enough. It's the name of the game. Par for the course. That's how the cookie crumbles. More clichs along those lines. Hell, you've paid 400 bucks to watch a film, you've bought the right to love it or hate it.

But why do you want know what it cost, how much it made and how much money it lost? Is that why you watch movies? Why you read about movies? Why we make movies?

Seriously?

Simple question. Whom do you want us to make movies for? For your pleasure or for someone's annual report to some nameless shareholders? I would understand if you owned shares of that company. But for us regular Joes, it's about the movie? Right?

Not for you. Not anymore. You actually know the difference between nett and gross. You understand P&A and can do the math on distributer's share. You, who don't know the paid up capital of Reliance or the PE of Infosys. Hell, you don't even know how much money your local MLA has been alloted to cheat you out of. But you know the cost and box office returns of every single movie. Even those you haven't watched!

Hypothetical situation. A movie is made for ten crores. It has a box-office potential (expected, projected, anticipated) of ten crores. Break-even. Touch and go. Then the director thinks of a new song. A gorgeous, fantastic, lovely song. It will break your heart and lift your spirit. It will be a beautiful, beautiful thing for you, the viewer.

It will cost a crore to shoot.

The film can't afford it. Someone will lose money. The producer doesn't want it. Do you still want it in the film?

I do. I want to bloody well see that song.

Hypothetical situation two. A filmmaker is making a sprawling Western. There's a huge train robbery sequence. Eleven horses. Suddenly he is thinking, "Hold on. These bloody horses cost ten thousand a day. My audience is judging me on how much money my movie makes. Maybe I can live with one horse less."

Why would you want one less horse in your movie?

To paraphrase Jim Jarmusch, movies don't exist to service business. Business invests in movies because it sees an opportunity. Potentially, a huge opportunity. It's between business and art. Business rolls the dice and takes its chances.

But you. Since when did you become interested in whether a movie made money for someone, above and beyond what it did for you? Are you really going to gauge movies based on whether or not it recovered its investment? Who sold you this bullshit? When did you buy it? Why did you buy it?

A movie is a creative decision. No one makes a movie that they don't think people want to watch. It is also a business decision. Made by extremely qualified, experienced and highly paid executives (or rich, brave producers). They decide, independent of the filmmaker's evaluation, how many people they think will want to watch, and pay to watch, the film. Sometimes they are right. Sometimes, they are wrong and the filmmaker is right. Sometimes they are right and the filmmaker is wrong.

In the case of Bombay Velvet, as in the case of scores of films every year, they were both wrong.

But we keep reading about how much money Bombay Velvet has lost/will lose. Implicitly, lose for a studio. Maybe it will. Probably will.

I simply ask you... so what? Why are we inundated with articles that explain the detailed math of Bombay Velvet's financial implications, almost as if Anurag, personally, is answerable to someone besides his audience? Is he? Why do none of those articles refer to the people who made the business decision? The people who actually invested the money. Why are we not evaluating *their* choices? Reading their names on Bollywood Hungama's charts?

We don't even know their names.

As far as you are concerned, Anurag should be answerable for no more than somewhere between two and five hundred rupees. And three hours of your time.

Anurag says he stands by his film. I personally think that's silly. What does it mean? People didn't like his movie. As he himself said, it's done and it's time to move on. What's there to stand by? Emotional bloody sucker. If killing yourself for something over two years doesn't count, how much more can you stand by it?

Here's the crux. Does Fox stand by its decision to back the movie? Is anyone asking?

Chances are, they do. Chances are they had extremely well-founded reasons to back the movie, and given a similar set of circumstances would do so again. As would a lot of studios. But no, that's not what we hear. We hear, ad nauseum, how Anurag lost Fox money.

How can Anurag be responsible for both, the creative and the business performance of his film? Is he making the movie for you or for Fox?

Dum Laga Ke Haisha is one of the most delightful movies I have seen in recent times. It recovered its investment almost as an afterthought. It did not make a hundred crores for anyone. Not even fifty. Does that make it less special? Is that consequential?

Amitabh Bachchan. Karan Johar. Ranbir Kapoor. Vikramaditya Motwane. Vikas Behl. Madhu Mantena. Danny Boyle, for f**k's sake. Formidable names; very, very astute people. Do you think they collaborate with Anurag because they think he'll make them a hundred crores?

They partner with him because he makes people feel alive. They enjoy what I can only call the Anurag experience. I had that experience once, in the late nineties, and I still suffer from withdrawals. It's also why you, the viewers, watch his films. You want the Anurag experience.

f**k that hundred crores nonsense. We make movies for you. We bend forwards and backwards and at more angles than you believed existed to raise the money and find a way to make them. We would con The Business a million times over just to get that film across to you. We beg, borrow, steal. We sell our asses and lease our souls so that you can hear the tale we have to tell and hopefully enjoy it.

Don't pass judgement on what we had to do to make it and how that played out. Let the business protect itself. Because The Business sure as hell isn't protecting you!

Parinda flopped. Shiva didn't make money. Andaz Apna Apna is still a box-office dud after two releases. Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron doesn't know what Gandhi's face looks like.

I'm not saying Bombay Velvet is a great movie or a future classic. Feel free to not like it. But not because of its business. Talk about its merits and faults, not its numbers.

Hundred crores means nothing if you didn't like the movie. And you never enjoyed a movie more because it recovered its investment or hated it because the hall was empty when you watched it. At least, I hope you didn't. I hope we still watch movies and apply our own standards. I hope we haven't become a generation of what Ayn Rand calls 'second-handers'.

If you care so much about the money, kiss Lagaan goodbye. Because before that, Ashutosh Gowarikar had made Pehla Nasha and Baazi. Khamoshi didn't make money, so forget Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. Dhoom and it's extraordinarily profitable sequels? Nope. Written off because of Tere Liye (yes it's a bloody movie, the first one I wrote lyrics for). No Ek Tha Tiger; Kabul Express made no money for no one. Crucify Badlapur on a cross called Agent Vinod. And someone please take the microphone away from Dibakar Bannerjee. We'll live without his extraordinary films; the guy's never made a hundred crores for anyone.

Like the movie or don't like the movie. Watch it or don't watch it. We're good with that. Heartbroken sometimes, but we get it. And we actually care. Promise. But don't get caught up in the numbers game. Don't force filmmakers to get caught up in it. Ultimately, you will pay the price. You will get one less horse.

Let us make movies for you, not for an annual report. Let filmmakers be greedy; greedy to entertain you, not for nett box office (in Rs cr).

Because when Anurag comes back and kicks three hundred crore ass, I don't want that wonderful sound to be subtitled.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So AK was fighting with censer board to hirani to aamir to press to film editor to studio boss, just for 20 cr something.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So now Ranbir has created huge RECORD in just giving History's Biggest DISASTER. He even beat his debut Disaster Saawariya which made 35 Cr 8 yrs back.

So much for a guy who can Act, meaningful films, quality cinema 🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Damn talk about a disaster...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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to beat PK record is easier than beating BV record 🤣

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