Was Nehru naive?

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Posted: 18 years ago

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Originally posted by: Maya_M

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Vijay Dinanath Chawhan

@sareg

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Posted: 18 years ago

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Nehruji was naive, romantic about his concept of a nation and nation building, Should have been a great choice for Human Development Ministry, not for Prime Ministership of the country. His Daughter certainly was not naive, she was shrewd, intelligent, perfect material for a Prime Minister, nobody else in the family had qualifications of being a PM, besides tha association of the name Gandhi 😉

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Deepak Tamang

@SolidSnake

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Posted: 18 years ago

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Originally posted by: Gauri_3
some politician said that "nehru-gandhi parivaar ek aisa darakht (tree) hain jis key neechey paudhey ugg toh saktey hain per panap nahi saktey"

meaning, this dynasty let lot of politicians mushroom under their umbrella but did not let them grow in to strong, dependable leaders. that is why even today, apart from a gandhi, there is no perceived leader in congress.

Well said Gauri di...👏

It is pathetic to see our PRIME MINISTER act as a bheegi billi in front of Sonia, she is the most powerful person in India right now without any responsibility. Nothing moves in Govt without her consent...she has shown dictatorial tendencies in past. Just look at the way she acted in Jharkhand/Goa hung assembly cases, lekin hamari (esp English) media treats her as if she is some devi, pataa nahin kahaan se aayi hai....also the way congress people worship Priyanka/Rahul....🤢

BTW, coming back to Nehru ji...his blunders cost us immensly, abhi tak pay kar rahe hain.

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3365

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Posted: 18 years ago

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Originally posted by: sareg
Nehruji was naive, romantic about his concept of a nation and nation building, Should have been a great choice for Human Development Ministry, not for Prime Ministership of the country. His Daughter certainly was not naive, she was shrewd, intelligent, perfect material for a Prime Minister, nobody else in the family had qualifications of being a PM, besides tha association of the name Gandhi 😉

very true i think nehru was a bit over trusting over chinaand we did learn from our mistakes a very hard lesson to learn.and abt his daughter u r very true. i think even rajiv gandhi was nice he had the forsight to see the imp of computers and even wht ever reforms done but narsimha rao were also planned by raji gandhi only bcoz he was the strong contestant of the future prime minister whn he died. so i think they were both shrewd enough but the present ones r yet to be seen wht they r.

abt sonia gandhi i wil say even she is shrewd and ofcourse influential as is proved by many suveys if she has the power to choose the PM and Prez.

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3365

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Posted: 18 years ago

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and i thin kits better to make mistakes and learn in place of not doing anything for the country i mean(bcoz others do a lot for themsleves and not the country).

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3365

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Posted: 18 years ago

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and one thing is if u r good people will invariably knw abt u no matter wht. its is said na u cannot hide a diamonds shine. and abt the part of thm being influential and not letting anyone grow then either others er not good enough and after all thats politics it only shows that the family is very good in politics. inborn talent.
and i dont think had there been any other family they would not have done the same thing. atleast the family did some reforms for the country.

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Believe

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Posted: 18 years ago

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Originally posted by: sareg
Nehruji was naive, romantic about his concept of a nation and nation building, Should have been a great choice for Human Development Ministry, not for Prime Ministership of the country. His Daughter certainly was not naive, she was shrewd, intelligent, perfect material for a Prime Minister, nobody else in the family had qualifications of being a PM, besides tha association of the name Gandhi 😉

His romance between Mrs.Mount batten also help to build good concept about a nation 😉

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Deepak Tamang

@SolidSnake

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Posted: 18 years ago

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/US_wanted_India_to_ pip_China_to_N-test_Report/articleshow/2328268.cms

TARAPUR: The US may now want India not to conduct nuclear tests, having built it in as a condition in the 123 agreement. But more than 40 years ago, a number of US state department officials were keen that India carry out a nuclear test before communists China did.

This is revealed in a September 13, 1961 memo from a US state department official, George McGhee, to then secretary of state Dean Rusk. According to the memo, many state department officials seriously wanted to help India acquire a nuclear bomb. It quoted intelligence estimates which stated that China could detonate a nuclear device as early as 1962.

"Such a demonstration of Chinese nuclear power would likely contribute to a feeling that communism is the wave of the future and communist China will become too powerful as a country," it said.

To avert such a Chinese gain, McGhee proposed that it would be desirable if a friendly Asian power beat communist China to the punch by detonating a nuclear device first. "While we would like to limit the number of nuclear powers, so long as we lack the capability to do so, we ought to prefer that the first Asian one be India and not China," said the memo.

Of course, India could not have accumulated enough fissionable material at that time to produce a nuclear explosion. Aware of that, the memo appeared to suggest that the US explore whether American technical assistance could help induce India to conduct a nuclear explosion ahead of China.

But the plan was not accepted because of practical reasons, including former Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru's reluctance to acquire nuclear weapons.

"I am against nuclear tests at any time in any place," India's first prime minister has been quoted as saying. China eventually did conduct its test well ahead of India - in 1964, the year Nehru died.

Until almost the very end, the US state department continued to hope that Nehru could be somehow persuaded about the importance of carrying out a test.

According to the memo, Nehru could be told that if India carried out a nuclear test, it would forestall China using nuclear blackmail against India. Also, it would reduce China's ability to bully the neighbours of India.

But the plan was eventually dropped. Some years later, the initial phase of nuclear cooperation between India and the US began in Tarapur with the commissioning of the 160-MW boiling water reactors designated as Tarapur 1 and 2 in October 1969.

However, the US withdrew cooperation to this project after Buddha smiled - that is India detonated its first nuclear bomb at Pokhran on May 18, 1974.

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